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posted July 07, 2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can you tell the difference 100% for sure?

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posted July 07, 2014 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know. Trust me.

I'm a 1st house Venus, anything in particular you would like to know?

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posted July 07, 2014 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
You know. Trust me.

I'm a 1st house Venus, anything in particular you would like to know?


Do you hide anything, even from your best friend? Just a little thing?

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posted July 07, 2014 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Little thing such as what? I'm a 1st house venus as well.

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posted July 07, 2014 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Little thing such as what? I'm a 1st house venus as well.

I don't know, but wouldn't a 12th house venus be like hiding stuff, or just keeping small secrets for themselves or forget to tell about "stuff" that the other finds important? Or what is it with a 12th house venus?

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posted July 07, 2014 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Little thing such as what? I'm a 1st house venus as well.

You too!?! Cool!

@nexttoneptune: no, I'm always honest with my friends. Venus in 12th sometimes have hidden feelings and relationships. Unrequited love, but not always the case. Sacrificing nature, illusions vs disillusions, having a Pisces Venus feel, very artistic and sensitive, need for privacy and quiet. These are just common generalizations though.

Looking at your aspects to your Venus would tell the greater story. If you are talking about yourself, of course.

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posted July 07, 2014 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
You too!?! Cool!

@nexttoneptune: no, I'm always honest with my friends. Venus in 12th sometimes have hidden feelings and relationships. Unrequited love, but not always the case. Sacrificing nature, illusions vs disillusions, having a Pisces Venus feel, very artistic and sensitive, need for privacy and quiet. These are just common generalizations though.

Looking at your aspects to your Venus would tell the greater story. If you are talking about yourself, of course.


Thanks… but it's not me, though I have scorpio venus - how much is it similar to this? But I have venus in 5th house, and quiet open with what I feel towards people. Scorpio venus people is also really intense… we cannot lie or keep feelings hidden the same way I would guess?

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posted July 07, 2014 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house in general would be secretive, and protective of themselves and loved ones, very mysterious. Pisces feel.

1st house is the opposite. Very outgoing, charming. Attract others very quickly and my afraid to open up. Aries feel.

They're both very different.

I have 4 12th house placements and I feel that I'm both. Outgoing as hell yet really secretive and protective. I've told my friends things and kept bigger things to myself.

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posted July 07, 2014 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house Venus here.

I hide things about my relationship from others, or hide the entire relationship from family, friends, or public. It depends.

But hide things from the other person? no.
Forget to tell them things? Maybe but it's forgetting....not in purpose.
I forget to tell all kinds of people all kinds of things so it's nothing unusual. That's probably a product of my Gemini moon not thinking things are a big deal (not worth talking about)

Things about her and I is what are big deals... What I get emotional about and thus what I talk about.

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posted July 07, 2014 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:

I forget to tell all kinds of people all kinds of things so it's nothing unusual. That's probably a product of my Gemini moon not thinking things are a big deal (not worth talking about)


That's what I meant, but I think that's really 12th house venus and not gemini moon? Or at least both

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posted July 07, 2014 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house Venus like Pisces things

1st house Venus like Aries things.


If you notice, first house Venus exudes a warmth about them.

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posted July 07, 2014 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The way I once read the difference (I was looking for my own Venus, conj the ASC from the 12th - so it's kinda in both houses at the same time) The article described the femininity of Venus showing in different ways. In the 12th it's more more subtle and less "showy" (think Pisces/Neptune) Venus here is subconcious, whereas in the 1st house it's more "showy" and out there, in your face kinda beauty and charm. Venus here is conscious.

The 12th is not any less since it's subtle, it's just that - subtle. The individual is no less charming.

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posted July 07, 2014 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
12th house Venus here.

I hide things about my relationship from others, or hide the entire relationship from family, friends, or public. It depends.


My guess is that's what Venus in 12th is most likely to do? Because I do that as well.

Not purposely (mostly) but I just don't think it's anyone's business to know anything, it's not their relationship.

I have hid a relationship from friends, family, public etc out of being ashamed of the person I was dating. He wasn't overall "socially acceptable" so I just decided to keep it all to myself. To this day, I still like to pretend he never existed in my life.

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posted July 07, 2014 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nicole401:
My guess is that's what Venus in 12th is most likely to do? Because I do that as well.

Not purposely (mostly) but I just don't think it's anyone's business to know anything, it's not their relationship.

I have hid a relationship from friends, family, public etc out of being ashamed of the person I was dating. He wasn't overall "socially acceptable" so I just decided to keep it all to myself. To this day, I still like to pretend he never existed in my life.


I guess I kind of did it because I didn't want to be asked questions. I didn't want to reveal my feelings or vulnerability to anyone. I didn't want them telling me what was not right about them or start planning the wedding... Either one.
I don't want to be analyzed. Just, "this is so and so... OK. Just act like you've always known each other and let's get on with this."
Mostly...
If it didn't work out I would rather they just not have known to start with. I wouldn't want a pity party or to "be on watch" because of it. Or people trying to drag me out to have fun and forget.
Really I'm just like, "let me obsess or be angry... Whatever on my own. Then when I'm done... I'm done. I don't want to hear about it or be asked what they are up to. I don't care what they're up to. I don't care if I talk to them most generally. They are gone, behind... And for a reason. Leave them there.
It happened with my ex. "have you seen her. She got really fat." I didn't say this but I'm like, "I don't care. I don't love her, I don't like her, I don't want to know about her. I don't care if she lost a leg or had triplets. I don't know her." And truly in my heart they really are gone. I don't want to pretend like I have this love that never died because I don't have it. Don't make me pretend.
I remember "things".... Like just what I learned from the whole thing. Emotionally I gave what I had during... After is all mine. My feelings belong to me.

Just let me handle it 100%, no advice.


So there was always a point that this person would get introduced to those close to me but honestly I would be fine if they never met until after the wedding. Which in the case of Barbie that was true for quite a few of my family and her family.

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