posted July 08, 2014 01:26 AM            

Only a quick question

I have this experience of people with sun conjunct/square/opposite saturn somehow bent upon undermining others, so I was wondering

1) is it really sun-saturn?
2) what is it that most likely annoys sun-saturn people in others? they are happy to let ones live, but others they feel the drive to pick with

posted July 08, 2014 09:27 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
Hey astrology 2.0

Only a quick question

I have this experience of people with sun conjunct/square/opposite Saturn somehow bent upon undermining others, so I was wondering

1) is it really Sun-Saturn?
2) what is it that most likely annoys Sun-Saturn people in others? they are happy to let ones live, but others they feel the drive to pick with
thanks in advance

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They are only happy to let others live if they feel that those people are not directly affecting them.

But if you live within close proximity of them, they are quick to play parent. Especially when they say they "care".

I had a colleague with a conjunction between Sun and Saturn. She was very much like this and liked to have things done in her specific way. very controlling.

I have this aspect with a friend(I'm the Saturn person and he is the Sun)and I can be very harsh with him and come down heavy. I don't think that Saturn does this because they "love".

I think they project their own short-comings on others and thereby think that if they work on "correcting" others, than they will come right themselves.

In-fact, I believe that having you Saturn aspect someone's planet will bring out the "headmistress" in you. It is likely that you may come across as the "disciplinarian" and the other person will be the "spoiled brat" etc.

posted July 08, 2014 09:58 AM            

I have Sun opposite Saturn and if I'm ever undermining anyone, it's myself lol. I guess this aspect could manifest that way but from what I've read and seen a harsh Sun/Saturn aspect usually causes the native to be critical of themselves.

I personally don't pick with or try to undermine anyone because I'd hate for someone to do that with me (I . e. Point one finger and you have 3 pointed back).
I'm a live and let live person, none of us are perfect so I find it silly to try and "correct" or "teach" someone else how to live life "the right way". If anything I'd lead by example but I'm not interested in controlling anyone.
I already have my own life and well being to be worried about.

posted July 08, 2014 10:09 PM            

For instance, I'm taking a class right now that I study very hard for...not because I particularly care for the subject, as it turns out, but because there is a man in this class that is very arrogant about his abilities and also just generally rubs me the wrong way...I feel strongly that I must prove that he is not the greatest thing since sliced bread.

This might sound awful (and immature), but it's one part of my Sun sq. Saturn aspect that I actually really like. I would probably not put forth much effort in life otherwise.

posted July 08, 2014 10:33 PM            

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Originally posted by nove731:
If I ever "undermine" someone it's because I can be very competitive with people that I don't particularly care for.

For instance, I'm taking a class right now that I study very hard for...not because I particularly care for the subject, as it turns out, but because there is a man in this class that is very arrogant about his abilities and also just generally rubs me the wrong way...I feel strongly that I must prove that he is not the greatest thing since sliced bread.

This might sound awful (and immature), but it's one part of my Sun sq. Saturn aspect that I actually really like. I would probably not put forth much effort in life otherwise.

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posted July 09, 2014 05:54 AM            

I don't have this aspect, but I care very much for someone who does. I think this aspect is what makes these people such natural born leaders, too. They simply command respect. Their very nature makes people want to follow them.

It may seem like a silly comparison, but think Optimus Prime in Transformers. One of the Autubots said, "You just wanna die for the guy." Sun-Saturn people - These are the kind of people you want to lead you. They are the ones you want in charge when the crap really hits the fan. Think Major Richard Winters from Easy Company In WW2, Band of Brothers. Just like Sun-Pluto exudes a sense of power, Sun-Neptune exudes a sense of allure, Sun-Uranus exudes a sense of originality and independence... Sun-Saturn exudes Authority and Respect.

posted July 12, 2014 08:50 AM            

I'm doing what, now?!

posted July 12, 2014 08:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
I think it's more that Sun-Saturn people are so tough on themselves and drive themselves so hard and so relentlessly that it really just p*sses them off to see other people doing things half-ass and putting forth less effort. To them, they have to give everything their absolute BEST effort. They won't accept anything less from themselves. Their inner voice of authority, their inner parent is like a drill sergeant who drives them. This makes it very hard for them to put up with what they perceive as lame attempts at effort and pathetic excuses for lack of excellence from others.

I don't have this aspect, but I care very much for someone who does. I think this aspect is what makes these people such natural born leaders, too. They simply command respect. Their very nature makes people want to follow them.

It may seem like a silly comparison, but think Optimus Prime in Transformers. One of the Autubots said, "You just wanna die for the guy." Sun-Saturn people - These are the kind of people you want to lead you. They are the ones you want in charge when the crap really hits the fan. Think Major Richard Winters from Easy Company In WW2, Band of Brothers. Just like Sun-Pluto exudes a sense of power, Sun-Neptune exudes a sense of allure, Sun-Uranus exudes a sense of originality and independence... Sun-Saturn exudes Authority and Respect.

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Half-assed s**t ticks me off. Gimme. Let me do it.

posted July 12, 2014 09:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
I think it's more that Sun-Saturn people are so tough on themselves and drive themselves so hard and so relentlessly that it really just p*sses them off to see other people doing things half-ass and putting forth less effort. To them, they have to give everything their absolute BEST effort. They won't accept anything less from themselves. Their inner voice of authority, their inner parent is like a drill sergeant who drives them. This makes it very hard for them to put up with what they perceive as lame attempts at effort and pathetic excuses for lack of excellence from others.

I don't have this aspect, but I care very much for someone who does. I think this aspect is what makes these people such natural born leaders, too. They simply command respect. Their very nature makes people want to follow them.

It may seem like a silly comparison, but think Optimus Prime in Transformers. One of the Autubots said, "You just wanna die for the guy." Sun-Saturn people - These are the kind of people you want to lead you. They are the ones you want in charge when the crap really hits the fan. Think Major Richard Winters from Easy Company In WW2, Band of Brothers. Just like Sun-Pluto exudes a sense of power, Sun-Neptune exudes a sense of allure, Sun-Uranus exudes a sense of originality and independence... Sun-Saturn exudes Authority and Respect.

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posted July 12, 2014 10:28 AM            

I think houses must affect the presentation somehow, because Sun square Saturn shows up as me not taking care of my body very well, most obviously. I have Sun in the 11th and Saturn in the 7th (Sun in Aries (Mars) - self, and Saturn in Capricorn in the 7th - Venus (beauty)) 11th house normally being ruled by Aquarius could mean I'm detached from the self hence a lack of motivation to fix my body?