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Geminiyoungster
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posted July 08, 2014 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean, I know that we all have our fair share of haters,but this is a cause for concern,haha!

I'm a guy also,haha!

I don't encounter this alot,but.... I love to focus on the postive,but this might be a fun thread..Continue

I feel like sometimes with some people that I encounter is that they have a strong dislike towards me and want to bring me down. I'm very respectful to everyone. I know that sometimes it could be all in my head,but it's like I can feel it,especially at work!
I have this one assistant manager who hates my guts,but acts so fake in my face like she likes me! It's the most weirdest thing ever that you have to see it to believe it. She's most laziest person there , but loves to put all the blame on me. I dont even work at this job alot. Here's my chart. Can anybody give me any insight. Can you guys also point some good in my chart to make a balance. (Libra rising talking)

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted July 08, 2014 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I don't understand is, if someone doesn't like me, why do they even need to be attracted at all? Why not just leave me alone?

You have moon trine Venus so people could respond to your warmth and enthusiastic ways.

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next to neptune
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posted July 08, 2014 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think a lot of it is from your own head… but you do have moon square pluto really tight, it could cause conflicts with people… but for a reason.

Generally I would say you could be popular though, because of leo ruling your 11th house, and your sun is trine jupiter and ascendant. But also square saturn… some people could find you annoying for some reason and you have to prove yourself and who you are to them?:S

But it would be interesting to see your synastry with those people, cause that would reveal a lot more I think

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amelia28
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posted July 08, 2014 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could just be one bad job.......it happens to all of us...but if this continues to be a repeating theme over and over again throughout your life I suppose that it MIGHT be the ruler of your 6th conjuncting uranus and been at the apex of a yod between chiron and mercury...

I read chiron in the 11th can make someone feel alienated and like they don't belong but this is probably their perception so it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy perhaps, look into chiron in the 11th...

Also the ruler of your 10th is the moon, the ruler of your 6th is neptune and the ruler of your 2nd is venus and venus rules your 1st.......are you overly feminine at work; like you dress up a lot? or very pretty? it could be jealousy or it could be you are ultra sensitive to work environment and are over analyzing it! as lots of feminine planets involving your career houses. Its obvious you need to feel at home were you work (ruler of the 6th in your 4th house and ruler of the MC is the Moon) so you cant be long term somewhere you don't feel accepted in...

What do you do? it seems perhaps you can work at a hospital or with the needy population or mentally ill on one hand...but it could also be something artistic...

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amelia28
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posted July 08, 2014 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have sag and gemini intercepted so mercury and sun are intercepted planets and I see they fall in the 9th so you could be a teacher for people with learning disabilities as well or a music teacher or art teacher too...

Or maybe you have overcome yourself something in the area of learning that took place in your childhood....

Just playing with the possibilities...

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iliketurtles
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posted July 08, 2014 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you have something they don't. a personality perhaps? bubbly, friendly countenance?confidence and competence? bullies often resent others for their general likeability because they lack it in themselves. my ex-boss favoured all the lazy, incompetent slackers. he had no people skills and resented others who were good at customer service. everytime management screwed up, another department would somehow end up taking the blame for it. he couldnt teach me anything. i also knew more about what went on up top (in his department) than he was comfortable with so he made my life hell to just 'put me in my place' i suppose.

his sun was in my 10th - so much for helping me out with my career! he was nothing but a pesky pothole lol his moon might have squared my sun but i dont have birth time & i dont care lol
aside from that though, there were hardly any aspects between our charts. i checked his draco and his draco saturn was conjunct my NN. that was basically the only major aspect we had..thats draco though. just a dumb coincidence.

next time you see her, walk around with a smile on your face. say hi to anyone else around you. be genuine though, don't be fake... torture her a bit with your happiness. then when she is least expecting it, go ahead and confront her. and do it with a smile on your face. the look of shock is always priceless

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Geminiyoungster
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posted July 08, 2014 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
What I don't understand is, if someone doesn't like me, why do they even need to be attracted at all? Why not just leave me alone?

You have moon trine Venus so people could respond to your warmth and enthusiastic ways.


Aww,thank you so much for replying back. and i agree with the first sentence/question heavily and thanks for sharing something good! that was awesome

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Geminiyoungster
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posted July 08, 2014 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I think a lot of it is from your own head… but you do have moon square pluto really tight, it could cause conflicts with people… but for a reason.

Generally I would say you could be popular though, because of leo ruling your 11th house, and your sun is trine jupiter and ascendant. But also square saturn… some people could find you annoying for some reason and you have to prove yourself and who you are to them?:S

But it would be interesting to see your synastry with those people, cause that would reveal a lot more I think


It could be all in my head ,but I encounter this alot with some ppl that it just puzzles me. Like why would you be so mean no someone that respecting you and make up lies? I'm also not one of those ppl who does something like you say when it comes to proving myself. I can be very laidback and a little bubbly. And could you please elaborate more on moon square pluto being tight? I knew I had it,but I just noticed that it was really tight together orb? And popular you say? Would you say sometimes with a 11th house,especially with my signs being in leo that it can bring a arrogant aurora without trying to come off that way? I usually get that vibe with Leo sun signs,even though it could be far from the truth! I don't know why though


Thanks so much for your insight,it was great!

I really glad that this thread didn't come off negative LOL.

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fishbull11
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posted July 08, 2014 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishbull11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't fret there a lot of shi*ty people out there who will try to get someone down especially if they are happy go lucky and have a positive outlook on life. Plus I'm guessing Libra ascendant you're not short on looks which will cause other women to be haters towards you.

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Geminiyoungster
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posted July 08, 2014 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
It could just be one bad job.......it happens to all of us...but if this continues to be a repeating theme over and over again throughout your life I suppose that it MIGHT be the ruler of your 6th conjuncting uranus and been at the apex of a yod between chiron and mercury...

I read chiron in the 11th can make someone feel alienated and like they don't belong but this is probably their perception so it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy perhaps, look into chiron in the 11th...

Also the ruler of your 10th is the moon, the ruler of your 6th is neptune and the ruler of your 2nd is venus and venus rules your 1st.......are you overly feminine at work; like you dress up a lot? or very pretty? it could be jealousy or it could be you are ultra sensitive to work environment and are over analyzing it! as lots of feminine planets involving your career houses. Its obvious you need to feel at home were you work (ruler of the 6th in your 4th house and ruler of the MC is the Moon) so you cant be long term somewhere you don't feel accepted in...

What do you do? it seems perhaps you can work at a hospital or with the needy population or mentally ill on one hand...but it could also be something artistic...


I think it could be a really bad job! The job that I work in is retail related and I absolutely hate it,haha! And could you please tell me more this! I'm kinda a youngster (newbie) when it comes to astrology? Are you talking about the Positions of Houses? Let's say like this( A chart from always astrology..

House 1 1°19' Libra
House 2 28°24' Libra
House 3 28°53' Scorpio
House 4 1°27' Capricorn
House 5 4°00' Aquarius
House 6 4°24' Pisces
House 7 1°19' Aries
House 8 28°24' Aries
House 9 28°53' Taurus
House 10 1°27' Cancer
House 11 4°00' Leo
House 12 4°24' Virgo

Are you talking about these placements? I know that may seem a little dumb,but im still learning astrology,haha! that's makes alot of sense if you are because I do feel that way alot! what's the difference between the Positions of Houses and the position of houses?

And i'm a dude btw LOL! Idk if I would consider myself pretty,but I do take a lot of pride in how I look,especially clothing,haha! How do you think this would resonate with male energy? I think I can come across as somewhat sensitive because I say what I feel sometimes. It's only with people who I trust though. I'm not overly emotional,I think sometimes I can kinda hold stuff in to the point were I blow up. Some People never expect that because I come off so pleasant,haha! I do think sometimes I over analyze everything that happens in my life. And you're right! If i don't like the environment at my job i will leave in a heartbeat,haha! I'm just working this job while I go to college,but I can't take this environment anymore. It makes me feel ill when I go there,haha!

I also read about chirion awhile back ago and it really stood out to me when it came to some things. I really feel like sometimes I dont belong with some groups,but these are just thoughts though,haha! I always try to see the good side in things. So I agree with you on this alot!

I never thought about maybe getting into something with a hospital or helping needy children/people. I love also doing artistic things too.


I love your insight on my chart! It was amazing! Thank you.

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Geminiyoungster
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posted July 08, 2014 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iliketurtles:
you have something they don't. a personality perhaps? bubbly, friendly countenance?confidence and competence? bullies often resent others for their general likeability because they lack it in themselves. my ex-boss favoured all the lazy, incompetent slackers. he had no people skills and resented others who were good at customer service. everytime management screwed up, another department would somehow end up taking the blame for it. he couldnt teach me anything. i also knew more about what went on up top (in his department) than he was comfortable with so he made my life hell to just 'put me in my place' i suppose.

his sun was in my 10th - so much for helping me out with my career! he was nothing but a pesky pothole lol his moon might have squared my sun but i dont have birth time & i dont care lol
aside from that though, there were hardly any aspects between our charts. i checked his draco and his draco saturn was conjunct my NN. that was basically the only major aspect we had..thats draco though. just a dumb coincidence.

next time you see her, walk around with a smile on your face. say hi to anyone else around you. be genuine though, don't be fake... torture her a bit with your happiness. then when she is least expecting it, go ahead and confront her. and do it with a smile on your face. the look of shock is always priceless


I think that maybe you're on to something,haha! I feel like my store manager likes the ppl who are lazy and talk about people, like my assistant manager. (who i'm talking about) I'm not saying that my store manager is lazy,but the assistant sure is.

This woman talks about everybody and complains about everything! I would love to see her chart because it's interesting how somebody can be so nasty behind your back, but nice in your face! Those type of people puzzle me because it's like "what made (or happen) to you to make you so negative and act like this"? I would never want to hurt somebody feelings or make them look bad! I just detected when I first saw met her that she was going to be a troublemaker and talk mess about people behind their backs. It's like I saw it coming before it even happened. It was just this feeling about her that I couldn't explain.

I will take your advice on treating her with kindness,but I really think it's time to leave. I'm sick of working under people who don't respect people or who don't know how to lead a team! It's ridiculous to me.

But thanks for your insight! Your story/situation was kinda similar to mine and I loved reading it!

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amelia28
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posted July 08, 2014 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
I think it could be a really bad job! The job that I work in is retail related and I absolutely hate it,haha! And could you please tell me more this! I'm kinda a youngster (newbie) when it comes to astrology? Are you talking about the Positions of Houses? Let's say like this( A chart from always astrology..

House 1 1°19' Libra
House 2 28°24' Libra
House 3 28°53' Scorpio
House 4 1°27' Capricorn
House 5 4°00' Aquarius
House 6 4°24' Pisces
House 7 1°19' Aries
House 8 28°24' Aries
House 9 28°53' Taurus
House 10 1°27' Cancer
House 11 4°00' Leo
House 12 4°24' Virgo

Are you talking about these placements? I know that may seem a little dumb,but im still learning astrology,haha! that's makes alot of sense if you are because I do feel that way alot! what's the difference between the Positions of Houses and the position of houses?

And i'm a dude btw LOL! Idk if I would consider myself pretty,but I do take a lot of pride in how I look,especially clothing,haha! How do you think this would resonate with male energy? I think I can come across as somewhat sensitive because I say what I feel sometimes. It's only with people who I trust though. I'm not overly emotional,I think sometimes I can kinda hold stuff in to the point were I blow up. Some People never expect that because I come off so pleasant,haha! I do think sometimes I over analyze everything that happens in my life. And you're right! If i don't like the environment at my job i will leave in a heartbeat,haha! I'm just working this job while I go to college,but I can't take this environment anymore. It makes me feel ill when I go there,haha!

I also read about chirion awhile back ago and it really stood out to me when it came to some things. I really feel like sometimes I dont belong with some groups,but these are just thoughts though,haha! I always try to see the good side in things. So I agree with you on this alot!

I never thought about maybe getting into something with a hospital or helping needy children/people. I love also doing artistic things too.


I love your insight on my chart! It was amazing! Thank you.


Notice how your sixth house is in pisces, well the natural ruler of pisces is Neptune and your neptune is in your 4th house.

I get this is confusing...it took me a while to get the hang of this aspect of astrology, dealing with rulerships, but it really is very helpful in understanding charts...

The Career houses are the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses so I just looked at the rulers of each of those houses in other words checked what planets rule these houses and in what houses they fall.......and since one of the rulers is the moon and the other is neptune which falls in your 4th that makes you very sensitive to your work environment and a huge need to feel at home were you work and it will make you very sensitive to negative vibes at work...It increases your chances of working from home even.

Most of your chart is AIR and FIRE which are masculine signs so I dont think you come off as feminine and venus ruling your first would just give you more symmetry and make you charming.

However the rulers of your career houses indicate a career involving the arts somehow, it could be interior design, architecture, drafting, or teaching the arts or creating art yourself. I find it very cool that the ruler of your second which is venus aspects neptune which rules your 6th and aspects the moon which rules your 10th or MC so yes something artistic career wise would make sense for you!...DO you have artistic talent??

But been in real state makes sense in context of your chart as well....selling people their dream home would be fulfilling for you!


Its possible your relationship with your mother has hurt your masculinity or assertiveness, I am thinking this could be bc chiron is right in the middle of the moon which represents the mother and mars which is your masculinity and chiron has to do with wounds so it been so close to the moon makes me think wounds connected to the mother affecting his ability to assert himself or masculinity somehow....

Like your chart btw love all that fire and air!

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amelia28
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posted July 09, 2014 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron/Moon Aspects:

Emotionally wounded. Profound sensitivity. Wounded women. A wounded mother. Needing or giving emotional healing. Damaged sense of mothering. Damaged relationship to self-care. Holistic approach to emotional healing. Painful emotions. Painful female relationships. Emotionally vulnerable. Painfully sensitive to other people’s feelings. Painfully sensitive to your mother’s feelings. Emotionally traumatized. Emotional integration. Holistic care. Holistic food choices. Bearing emotional pain. A distorted relationship with your inner feeling life. Emotionally unorthodox. Unorthodox attachments. Emotionally rebellious. Your feeling nature is outside the norm. The way you feel about things isn’t typical.

Coming up with your own rules for how you want to be nurtured. Forging a new path in caring relationships. Finding new, untried emotional healing methods. Feeling abnormal. Feeling that other people cannot relate to your emotional pain. Deep hurts. Emotional injuries. Painful issues surrounding mothers, mothering, nurturing, nourishment and relationships with women. Working through painful emotions opens new doors. Resistance to letting yourself be understood emotionally. Resistance to sharing feelings. Empathy for other people, but little for yourself. Giving yourself the short end of the stick when it comes to feeling good. Solving other people’s emotional issues but not your own. Letting yourself be guided by your feelings. Letting instinct guide you. Learning to trust your hunches. Learning to trust your intuition. Going with your gut. Working through painful sensitivity. Feeling like a misfit. Feeling abandoned. Fears of abandonment. Feeling like an outsider. The black sheep. The family outcast. The loner.

Feeling like you don’t fit in. Feeling like you don’t belong. Intuitive gifts. The natural healer. The natural astrologer. Unconventional nurturing instincts. Radical emotional insights. Painful sensitivity to family history. Excruciatingly sensitive. Wanting to isolate to keep from feeling. Attempting to ignore your emotional life to avoid pain emotions. Painful feelings stay fresh even as time goes on. Your capacity to tune in to other people’s feelings. The ability to sense what other people are feeling. Feeling other people’s problems. Sensitivity to pain. Inability to find help for your emotional problems and issues. Turn inward during periods of emotional crisis.

The capacity to help people work through their emotional issues. Wearing your heart on your sleeve. Getting hurt by the ones you love- especially family members. Reluctance to admit that you have feelings. Pretending to be stone cold while leaving a trail of blood behind you. Emotional reflexes. Individualistic behavior patterns. Deviating from family behavior patterns. Deviating from accepted emotional responses. Deviating from normal emotional expression and expectations. Nonconformist behavior. Empathy for the wounded and for people on the fringes of society. Freaky behavior. Oddball reactions. A natural radical. Emotional intelligence.

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Geminiyoungster
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posted July 11, 2014 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Notice how your sixth house is in pisces, well the natural ruler of pisces is Neptune and your neptune is in your 4th house.

I get this is confusing...it took me a while to get the hang of this aspect of astrology, dealing with rulerships, but it really is very helpful in understanding charts...

The Career houses are the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses so I just looked at the rulers of each of those houses in other words checked what planets rule these houses and in what houses they fall.......and since one of the rulers is the moon and the other is neptune which falls in your 4th that makes you very sensitive to your work environment and a huge need to feel at home were you work and it will make you very sensitive to negative vibes at work...It increases your chances of working from home even.

Most of your chart is AIR and FIRE which are masculine signs so I dont think you come off as feminine and venus ruling your first would just give you more symmetry and make you charming.

However the rulers of your career houses indicate a career involving the arts somehow, it could be interior design, architecture, drafting, or teaching the arts or creating art yourself. I find it very cool that the ruler of your second which is venus aspects neptune which rules your 6th and aspects the moon which rules your 10th or MC so yes something artistic career wise would make sense for you!...DO you have artistic talent??

But been in real state makes sense in context of your chart as well....selling people their dream home would be fulfilling for you!


Its possible your relationship with your mother has hurt your masculinity or assertiveness, I am thinking this could be bc chiron is right in the middle of the moon which represents the mother and mars which is your masculinity and chiron has to do with wounds so it been so close to the moon makes me think wounds connected to the mother affecting his ability to assert himself or masculinity somehow....

Like your chart btw love all that fire and air!



Oh,ok! Thnaks for clearing this up. It's so funny that you said that I will be sensitive when it comes to the work environment because that's very true!! I feel so sick to my stomach when I hate the work that I do or if my bosses are horrible! That's why i'm working my butt off in college so I can get a degree in something I would like to do.
I know that they're not so nice people everywhere ,but it would be great to actually have a balance with something that I love to do! I would also love to work from home or run my own business! Spot on..

I love how you said my chart is indicating that i'm creative and I agree with that a lot. I just want something that's practical when it comes to my career though. I love to escape at home though! I love to draw,edit videos, and daydream about things,So that was spot on too.

I never thought of real estate because it's something about a nice cozy home that makes me excited and soothes me.

My mom actually passed when I was younger. how would that situation resonate with my chart? I also read your moon/chirion passage and that was really true to my life . I also just found out that I have venus trine chirion! What would that say about me? I hope i'm not asking you too many questions!

Thanks for the compliment to as well on my chart. So sweet.


I want to thank you for helping me read and analyze my chart

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