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GeminiKarat
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posted July 09, 2014 03:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blue. I love music.
Mercury
opp. Moon
trine Jupiter
loose conj. Uranus
semisextile Neptun
semisextile Pluto

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7thGuardian
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posted July 09, 2014 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 09, 2014 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first thought that came in my mind - while reading the content of this topic: the pills come in the wrong color... O_O To me, it didn't seem natural to drink a Red pill and master languages, since i acknowledge Blue as the color of verbal expression. While red, i see red as the spiritual color of the physical world - thus, it seems more appropriate for a pill that gives you the ability to master objects from the physical plane, a mastery that helps you ground yourself, while - mastering languages or the ability to express yourself - sounds a lot like Blue, which - is like the bridge or the gate of our inner being, the middle ground between the physical and spiritual plane. Then again... isn't music just another language?

Just a thought - for start...

Hmm, I could ignore the colors of the pills and focus more on what they have to offer... but to me - music is just another language, so... the other pill could be just a trick! HA! And beyond music - "every single language" could refer to a lot of things... i mean - even women have a language of their own, same as animals... well, not exactly the same - it's obviously more complicated, more confusing... moke "alien of nature". For example, when a women says something like: "I'm fine." - that could mean a lot of things, quite the opposite of - being fine...

Joking! ^^

...and then there's the elements, the language of fire, water, wind and earth. Ancient languages of our world - which this days are more dead than the ancient Latin. Well, the old Latin - was revived for the sake of "interesting" - while the language of the elements was just partially revived - through alchemy... i guess.

I'm just messing around. :p I'd take it - by language mastery, you're referring strictly to the current languages of the world (of all people residing on this planet). So... I'd go with the pill that can give me the ability to master all the musical instruments. In terms of foreign languages, I'm satisfied with what i can manage without any magic pill. Even though - some languages don't come easy, i can manage - if i have to. There's always body language (gestures) - as a last resort for communicating with foreigners - which, might be good enough even for some secluded tribe from the Amazon rainforest. Though, if i spend enough time around foreigners - i might be able pick up any language, maybe even faster than most people (as i presume - everybody could learn any language - if they end-up around foreigners for a fair amount of time) - at least on a basic conversational level, which - is more than sufficient for my conversational needs. Looking around - even the mainstream of most cultures learned an universal language like English. Yet, that's not the reason why I'd choose the mastery of musical instruments. As mentioned in the beginning - this mastery can help one ground himself and be one with the world and beyond... while, words have their limitation in any language. One could get tired of words - eventually... Just, same old - same old... the words might differ - but they say the same thing, common stories - quite boring in nature (like small talk). Music on the other hand - that can be self sustaining, If i could master all kinds of instruments... i could make my own kind of music - sing my own special song - even if nobody else sings along! Thus, i could sing for as long as i live - without much need for other forms of expression. I could do that even in private - without the need of an audience, as musing - can be self fulfilling. On the other hand - talking alone can drive one insane, as words - can be like poison if you end-up living in your own hand - the opposite of music which can heal the mind - while having a soothing effect on the soul... Well, each of our soul - has its own personal cravings - in terms of music. :)

Oh, I'm suppose to give some astrological reasons for my choice. Let's see... I have "Moon trine Neptune" - nuff said.

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posted July 09, 2014 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could I just take.....half of each!?!?! Lol.

Having to choose I would take the red pill. I love traveling and learning about different cultures, so speaking the native language would make sightseeing and communication way easier.

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posted July 09, 2014 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be honest, if someone would give me a pill that could allow me to master every single language in the world - "I'd be more tempted to flash it down the toilet". I don't know, maybe because I'm Gemini - but, I prefer to learn a foreign language in that foreign place - as a way to mingle with those people (learn about their culture, make new friends and so on). That's something i enjoy - something i see as a fun experience. The idea of knowing all foreign languages - "just like that (without the experience - of learning those languages)" - sounds really unappealing to me. The learning experience can be like a journey - and that can be as important as the destination if not more... I feel like - I'd be missing a lot whit such pill. On the other hand, learning a musical instrument - that's not a learning process i would miss. If that would be the case (if I'd be fond of learning how to use all kind of musical instruments) - I'd already master at least one musical instrument by now - but i was never that interested (didn't seem to have this inclination). I'd have to take the hard road - which could imply a lot of hard and boring work - until I'd master a musical instrument - to the point where I'd start to enjoy it... maybe (if I'm not a natural - there's also the possibility - where I'd get bored with it).

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posted July 09, 2014 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Could I just take.....half of each!?!?! Lol.

Ha! I Love it! Do you have any Virgo or 6th house placements 'cause that sounds like Problem Solving 101

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posted July 09, 2014 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@7thGuardian
Your post was a completely fascinating, deeply thoughtful, and intriguing read. Nice job.

I also must own up to the fact that, as a female, the "I'm Fine" pic you posted with the girl holding up the sign almost made me cry. It touched me very deeply. Unfortunately, as a Moon-Pluto conj. person, my feelings and hurts are often so deep that it just feels like the person simply wouldn't understand. So, "I'm Fine" can reluctantly turn into a defense mechanism. Reading your post was both healing and painful at the same time. Painful because it was true and healing because someone sounded like they actually "got it" and maybe understood.

Then, I remembered I have an exact Sun square Chiron transit hitting today and it all made sense. It was strange feeling a Chiron transit happening in real time. Usually, I don't understand them until long after the fact. This one felt "live". It gave me a more clear understanding of what Chiron feels like. It felt like a wound getting lanced. There was a painful sting from the cut of the pain, of being confronted with the sense of wounding. Then, a sense of healing release. I felt it very distinctly. I really didn't expect the healing wound to be encountered on an online post. It was unexpected, but the transits don't care where they find you... They just find you.

Ok, sorry for the detour... It just fascinated me to actually feel the effect of that Sun square Chiron transit in "real time" with full awareness.

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posted July 09, 2014 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
Ha! I Love it! Do you have any Virgo or 6th house placements 'cause that sounds like Problem Solving 101

Only placement I have in 6th is Chiron

But....house is ruled by Gemini and Mercury is in my 1st house. Virgo rules my 9th though.

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posted July 09, 2014 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
[B]even women have a language of their own, same as animals... well, not exactly the same - it's obviously more complicated, more confusing... moke "alien of nature". For example, when a women says something like: "I'm fine." - that could mean a lot of things, quite the opposite of - being fine...


I actually agree with what you asserted, and yet I don't think "I'm fine" is a good example. Men are actually even more pressured to cover up their pain and misery than women, even with their friends (whereas women can generally be honest among close friends many men can't express their vulnerability even then--when men do express their vulnerability it will almost always be to a woman, not another man).

Granted, men are given more license to show their anger (though it's a double-edge sword since male anger is seen as dangerous, though I suppose better than being treated as a joke as it often is when women express anger) but not their vulnerability. And because of that guys in pain tend to act out against others whereas females tend to turn it inward (or at least on others that they can feel they can hide from the rest of the world) so it's more obvious when guys are in pain, but they're also expected to say the equivalent to "I'm fine" when asked how they're doing no matter how much they're hurting inside (to do otherwise would be seen as being feminine).

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posted July 09, 2014 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That said, this REALLY appealed to my gallows humor:

Thanks so much for that.

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Wild Horses
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posted July 09, 2014 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Only placement I have in 6th is Chiron

But....house is ruled by Gemini and Mercury is in my 1st house. Virgo rules my 9th though.


Oh, okay. 6th house being ruled by Mercury and having Mercury in the 1st must've been what made me think Virgo. Your Mercury was showing.

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posted July 09, 2014 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
@7thGuardian
Your post was a completely fascinating, deeply thoughtful, and intriguing read. Nice job.

I also must own up to the fact that, as a female, the "I'm Fine" pic you posted with the girl holding up the sign almost made me cry. It touched me very deeply. Unfortunately, as a Moon-Pluto conj. person, my feelings and hurts are often so deep that it just feels like the person simply wouldn't understand. So, "I'm Fine" can reluctantly turn into a defense mechanism. Reading your post was both healing and painful at the same time. Painful because it was true and healing because someone sounded like they actually "got it" and maybe understood.

Then, I remembered I have an exact Sun square Chiron transit hitting today and it all made sense. It was strange feeling a Chiron transit happening in real time. Usually, I don't understand them until long after the fact. This one felt "live". It gave me a more clear understanding of what Chiron feels like. It felt like a wound getting lanced. There was a painful sting from the cut of the pain, of being confronted with the sense of wounding. Then, a sense of healing release. I felt it very distinctly. I really didn't expect the healing wound to be encountered on an online post. It was unexpected, but the transits don't care where they find you... They just find you.

Ok, sorry for the detour... It just fascinated me to actually feel the effect of that Sun square Chiron transit in "real time" with full awareness.


Well, we're all like jigsaw puzzle pieces with a specific shape and specific place - in the big puzzle of life. It's hard to say what matters - from what's being channeled through us (the inspiration for something - that can teach someone a lesson or something like that) - while we're just being ourselves (playing our own role - so to speak). Though, i presume - that's our only real purpose - to be who we are, while being truthful to ourselves. People loose their purpose when they're being fake - when they're trying to be like other puzzle pieces - thus, they wouldn't fit where they belong. That's what means to be lost in your path - to lie to yourself, to pretend that you're something you're not. As our true nature - it's defined by our actions, by our tendencies - not by our words in relation to future actions, as - the future is an illusion (wishful thinking) - while the present is the only thing we got - the only thing that's certain... the only place we can live (a saying that's quite common for quite for more than half a century - yet, many still don't get it or haven't payed enough attention). The irony, that's something i always knew as a child (something i never questioned back then), but - as i grew older i forgot, and as an adult - i had to learn the basics again from other adults - who seem to be more lost than children this days. I guess - that's one of their (children) purpose: to remind us that - the present it's all there is... the only place where we can play - as we used to when we were younger - yet wiser from this point of view.

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posted July 09, 2014 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Well, we're all like jigsaw puzzle pieces with a specific shape and specific place - in the big puzzle of life. It's hard to say what matters - from what's being channeled through us (the inspiration for something - that can teach someone a lesson or something like that) - while we're just being ourselves (playing our own role - so to speak). Though, i presume - that's our only real purpose - to be who we are, while being truthful to ourselves. People loose their purpose when they're being fake - when they're trying to be like other puzzle pieces - thus, they wouldn't fit where they belong. That's what means to be lost in your path - to lie to yourself, to pretend that you're something you're not. As our true nature - it's defined by our actions, by our tendencies - not by our words in relation to future actions, as - the future is an illusion (wishful thinking) - while the present is the only thing we got - the only thing that's certain... the only place we can live (a saying that's quite common for quite for more than half a century - yet, many still don't get it or haven't payed enough attention). The irony, that's something i always knew as a child (something i never questioned back then), but - as i grew older i forgot, and as an adult - i had to learn the basics again from other adults - who seem to be more lost than children this days. I guess - that's one of their (children) purpose: to remind us that - the present it's all there is... the only place where we can play - as we used to when we were younger - yet wiser from this point of view.

Wow! Your words are very deeply stirring to me. You must have some planet or angle hitting my Psyche.
My Psyche's @ 10.01 Virgo. Do you have anything that aspects that?
My Chiron's @ Aries 16.56. Maybe your Mercury aspects that.

I'm just curious to see why your words effect me so deeply. Whenever someone's words touch me that noticeably, it usually involves my Psyche or Chiron, or sometimes my Moon.

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posted July 09, 2014 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I actually agree with what you asserted, and yet I don't think "I'm fine" is a good example. Men are actually even more pressured to cover up their pain and misery than women, even with their friends (whereas women can generally be honest among close friends many men can't express their vulnerability even then--when men do express their vulnerability it will almost always be to a woman, not another man).

Granted, men are given more license to show their anger (though it's a double-edge sword since male anger is seen as dangerous, though I suppose better than being treated as a joke as it often is when women express anger) but not their vulnerability. And because of that guys in pain tend to act out against others whereas females tend to turn it inward (or at least on others that they can feel they can hide from the rest of the world) so it's more obvious when guys are in pain, but they're also expected to say the equivalent to "I'm fine" when asked how they're doing no matter how much they're hurting inside (to do otherwise would be seen as being feminine).


I tend to be sarcastic when it comes to stereotypes (seems quite silly - to take them serious).

Revised answer after a good night sleep (can't say the same about the waking up part... it's the dog days): That sounds like men who don't have any real friends. Even guys talk with other guys about their issues (with women - for example), but - some guys might find this types of discussions inappropriate among friends of the opposite sex - because... the reactions they get from a female friend, well - in most cases - it's not the most appropriate reaction - quite the opposite of what they need (a colder reaction - and a night out where they could cheer up... instead of an emotional response - which tends to open-up more wounds). Though, this is strictly about friends - cause if we're to talk about a SO (a girlfriend), that's obviously better than a close friend of the same sex - as there's room for a deeper level of intimacy and they can stick by each other side and deal with any wounds that might surface (hugs can work miracles sometimes ^^). And btw - both men and women - can be cold natured. As for vulnerabilities - same as mentioned above, the response you get from a male friend when dabbling with sensible issues - is usually more platonic in nature (even plastic/superficial sometimes). So, there's no point in going there - with a friend from the same sex, unless - we take gay men in consideration - which indeed, can show the same level of sensibility as a women - it's just that most guys don't have a close gay friend - for obvious reasons... not all, but some gay male react in a emotional way that can make a straight guy feel awkward (also, some gay man flirt even with straight guys - to the point where it gets awkward). So - yes, you're right - there are all kind of sensible subjects that are more sensible in nature - which flow better in the presence of a woman friend, compared to men - where such discussions can be awkward (sexuality for example).

Male anger - is seen as dangerous, because - it actually is dangerous. As for women, well... what can i say - cat fights (couldn't help myself ^^) - are usually not that dangerous (yes - i heard, you learned kung pow - but still - you hit like a girl! jk jk! ^^). Unless we're talking about situation where women get cheated in love or their child was wronged in some way. Then yes, in such situations - even women can be very dangerous...

Hmm, maybe this would be more fitting for women language:

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posted July 09, 2014 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
Wow! Your words are very deeply stirring to me. You must have some planet or angle hitting my Psyche.
My Psyche's @ 10.01 Virgo. Do you have anything that aspects that?
My Chiron's @ Aries 16.56. Maybe your Mercury aspects that.

I'm just curious to see why your words effect me so deeply. Whenever someone's words touch me that noticeably, it usually involves my Psyche or Chiron, or sometimes my Moon.


The Moon is in Aries at 24 degrees and my 3'rd House is in Virgo - but it's empty. I don't dabble much with asteroids (maybe just for fun) - nor am i affected by the stars above - as those who put to much emphasis on what they perceive as negative aspects. Mercury Retrograde for example, i had a great time during that period and so did most from the people i know. Many things happened - quite the opposite of the doom approach expected from a Mercury retrograde. Maybe, it's because - i took that period time as any other (didn't focus on negative expectations) - i took the good with the bad and didn't focus on neither. Ironically, more stuff like that happened when it was direct. So, i guess - some people invite negativity in their life - while focusing on bad things or expecting bad things to happen.

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posted July 09, 2014 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a sag mercury conjunct my sun and i say blue pill
i have no air in my chart.

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posted July 10, 2014 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I think although music is the universal language,having the ability to be fluent in ALL existing languages of the world is something we can't just pass, no matter how strongly we feel towards music.

Thanks for playing people

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Originally posted by fishbull11:
Take the blue pill...and then wake up on a Cancun beach playing a Ukulele with one of those cocktails with the little straw hat in it...then be swept off into the ocean. Not a bad way to go, just hope I can still play that Ukulele underwater, in an octopuses garden in the shade.

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posted July 10, 2014 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm good at languages and bad at mustering the patience to learn a musical instrument.
Blue pill for me.

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posted October 25, 2017 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagical     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The red pill

If you take the red pill you will master every single language in the world.

The Blue pill

If you take the blue pill, you will master every single musical instrument in the world.

This was a question that made me think too long since I am normally a very decisive person but in the end, I think I would go with the Red pill. It took me awhile to decide actually, because I am so drawn to musical instruments and music, due to my mercury-venus exact conjunction, and my neptune trines to mercury and venus, that make music a fabulous escape, however I think my mercury-uranus,merc-saturn is much stronger,although they are at looser orbs.

What about you, which pill would you take? What are your mercury and venus aspects OR other planets that you think contribute to the making of your choice?

And, yes, you can only take one pill, you can't come back on your decision once made.


Blue pill.

Taurus Mercury in the 12, Pisces Venus in the 10th square to Jupiter and Neptune..... moon trines Neptune. Music, music, music!

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This one's easy: the red pill! I don't really care all that much about music. Being able to play multiple instruments is great if you are trying to make a living as a musician and it's probably a great conversation starter, but other than that, I find it to be useless when it comes to non-music-related careers.

However, being able to speak multiple languages greatly increases your marketability in the workplace, and it's useful when you are traveling. You instantly form a connection with someone from a different country when you can speak their language.

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