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Topic: What are indicators of sexual deviance and perversion in a chart
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KarkaQueen unregistered
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posted July 09, 2014 01:13 PM
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NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1386 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 09, 2014 01:15 PM
Venus Pluto in my opinion. I know a guy with a square, he is always talking about things related to sex. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 unregistered
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posted July 09, 2014 01:18 PM
Completely misunderstood. How old are you again? Don't think it's appropriate for a 15-16 year old, sorry. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 5308 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 01:21 PM
Can you define deviance and perversion so that I can answer correctly?IP: Logged |
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posted July 09, 2014 01:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by NeptunianSag: Venus Pluto in my opinion. I know a guy with a square, he is always talking about things related to sex.
Hmm, I know this one man who is the biggest pervert I met.. really, I don't mean this in a cute little funny way or something or he's just really horny but his fantasies.. are extremely bizarre and sickening.. Venus in Capricorn Venus-Saturn Venus-Mars Mars-Saturn Now I can't find anything much unusual aside from the Jupiter (morals) opposite Uranus here's another dude: Venus in Capricorn conjunct Saturn conjunct Mars opposite Moon Mars conjunct Saturn opposite Neptune Sun-Mercury-Uranus (highly unusual mind) Jupiter opposite Uranus Jupiter square Pluto. Wow, they had more in common than I thought.. let's see the other one.. Venus in Cancer conjunct Saturn square Pluto opposite Uranus Mars in Aries sq Venus sq Saturn Jupiter conjunct Chiron, conjunct Sun, square Moon I see a pattern.
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posted July 09, 2014 01:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: Can you define deviance and perversion so that I can answer correctly?
well for example, pedophilia, pedophilic incest, rape and murder fantasies, torture, acting out on rape, compulsive sex drive, unhealthy sex disorders and addiction ^ thats one of the few.. why do you even need that to be clarified to begin with? IP: Logged |
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posted July 09, 2014 01:23 PM
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 5308 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 01:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Aqua Mars according to recent threads
You beat me to it. For me this is true to 100% and I know a handful.
I also know some people that are into beastiality but nothing that a natal chart could figure out the answer to. Some Pisces I know are VERY kinky. The worst ****** I have ever had the displeasure of knowing is a :
Cap Sun, Mercury Scorpio Moon Aqua Mars, Venus Sick sick man.
Another twisted **** is a : Leo Sun, venus, Merc Aries Moon Aqua Mars A somewhat more normal one is: Pisces Sun, Venus, Mercury Scorpio Moon Cancer Mars Oh, forgot the: Libra Sun, Venus, Mercury Aqua Moon. Mars He supposedly liked watching women being tied up in cages, with animals doing things to them alternatively beating eachother up in cages. While men stood around watching.
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posted July 09, 2014 01:30 PM
This man is sexually perverted but not sadistic like the aspects of the charts I have postedclose right? here he is: Unaspected Venus Moon-Pluto Mars-Neptune-Sun Mercury sq Uranus Jupiter sq Moon and Pluto IP: Logged |
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posted July 09, 2014 01:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: You beat me to it. For me this is true to 100% and I know a handful. I also know some people that are into beastiality but nothing that a natal chart could figure out the answer to. Some Pisces I know are VERY kinky. The worst ****** I have ever had the displeasure of knowing is a :
Cap Sun, Mercury Scorpio Moon Aqua Mars, Venus Sick sick man.
Another twisted **** is a : Leo Sun, venus, Merc Aries Moon Aqua Mars A somewhat more normal one is: Pisces Sun, Venus, Mercury Scorpio Moon Cancer Mars
Lool let me see that aspects Here's another one, although gentle, can be a creep and sadistic too.. odd fantasies as well and weird urges Venus in Cancer Venus conjunct Uranus Venus opposite Moon Venus sq Neptune, Jupiter Mars in Taurus sq Sun Tr Saturn Now there's not much bad with the sex planets but the emotional part is where it gets disturbing looking, especially if you look at it with Venus, shows major issues with women Moon in Capricorn opposite Uranus sq Neptune sq Jupiter Tr Mars Tr Mercury Jupiter sq Uranus, Jupiter opposite Neptune IP: Logged |
Wild Horses Knowflake Posts: 533 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 02:24 PM
I think I remember reading an article online about it once, and it mentioned hard aspects between Mars and Uranus. I think Mars opp. Pluto both T-squaring Uranus was something that turns up a lot in sexual deviant charts. Not saying everyone with that aspect is perverted mind you. It can just lead to twisted behavior under the wrong circumstances, especially if one of them is 8th house ruler, heavily afflicted, or getting hard aspects from Chiron. In those cases, having the Pluto or Mars in that T-square falling in the 12th house may show up in the chart, indicating the hidden behavior. I also recall them saying an afflicted Neptune in hard aspect to Mars can be in the chart of a sexual deviant, indicating the hidden sexual fantasies. If they make harsh aspects or are afflicted, then those fantasies could tilt toward the perverse side. I can't remember where I read the article. It may have been on the Sasstrology blog or the Astrology Place blog. Try those two. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3240 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 09, 2014 02:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by NeptunianSag: Venus Pluto in my opinion. I know a guy with a square, he is always talking about things related to sex.
I have Venus square Pluto LOL. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3240 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 09, 2014 02:52 PM
I've had my fair share of Cap venus dudes after me who are all very perverted. Many of them have slapped my butt while I was walking down the hallways in my school before. Mars in Aries--definitely pervs. But like it depends on the rest of their charts whether or not they are open about it. And maybe Venus or Mars in the 8th house, too.IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9260 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 02:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: Libra Sun, Venus, Mercury Aqua Moon. MarsHe supposedly liked watching women being tied up in cages, with animals doing things to them alternatively beating each-other up in cages. While men stood around watching.
Yikes!!! And he has Libra Venus? Very strange. Did his Venus have harsh aspects with other planets? I think there is usually something that psychologically undermines such people from making intimate connections with others. Perhaps they have intellectualized the sexual act so much that, for them, pushing boundaries seems to be the only incentive they have in keeping them sexually interested. What about Uranus-Venus,Neptune-Venus and Venus-Pluto in 8th house.Could this also be an indication?
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 5308 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 03:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Yikes!!! And he has Libra Venus? Very strange. Did his Venus have harsh aspects with other planets? I think there is usually something that psychologically undermines such people from making intimate connections with others. Perhaps they have intellectualized the sexual act so much that, for them, pushing boundaries seems to be the only incentive they have in keeping them sexually interested. What about Uranus-Venus,Neptune-Venus and Venus-Pluto in 8th house.Could this also be an indication?
he was 100% air, in air houses, bar a Sag Neptune. Sorry, his Gem Saturn was in 10H so not an air house. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9260 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 03:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: he was 100% air, in air houses, bar a Sag Neptune. Sorry, his Gem Saturn was in 10H so not an air house.
Well no wonder. That shows great detachment. I have a Stellium of planets in 8th house. I find this kind of behavior prevalent in people who are not interested in getting intimate and see sex as some sort of tool to use in abusing and humiliating others. Even animals. I guess when your chart is more watery, you attach yourself to things.
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posted July 09, 2014 04:38 PM
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posted July 09, 2014 04:41 PM
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KarkaQueen unregistered
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posted July 09, 2014 07:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by bansheequeen: Do you mean he's not into stuff like rape and pedophilia and incest? Or are you saying he doesn't have chart aspects?
He's not sexually sadistic and with deep pathological issues, and things like rape and pedophilia he.. kind of isn't. He has a lot of fantasies though and loses his boundaries w/ women, sees them as prostitutes IP: Logged |
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posted July 09, 2014 08:02 PM
hmm.. this cap guy who has mercury, eros and lilith in cap all in the 8th and in conjunction, an aqua mars and gemini rising, moon opposite pluto, he's pretty freaky.
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florence Knowflake Posts: 1537 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 08:06 PM
Apparently Venus sq Saturn has some perversion I suppose due to low self esteem & unhealthy ways of experiencing intimacyIP: Logged |
yellowelevator Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Michigan/Neptune Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 09, 2014 10:12 PM
One person I know and used to be somewhat good friends with was very sexual and was not afraid of talking about it or his experiences at all. Sometimes it made me a little uncomfortable and annoyed, but never in a real creepy creepy way. He could control himself. He is a Scorpio Sun, Mercury, and Mars. He has:Mars inconjunct Moon Mars conjunct Sun Mercury Conjunct Pluto Venus sextile Mercury and Pluto Chiron square Mars Saturn trine Moon exact Saturn square Mars Mars and Mercury sextile Uranus Lilith Conjunct Juno Eros Conjunct Uranus IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Moderator Posts: 2427 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 10, 2014 12:55 AM
Venus-Pluto positive aspects and some Venus in Scorpios will have a higher likelihood of enjoying power plays that translate into BD/SM of any degree in the bedroom. Hard aspect from Pluto to Venus, especially if Venus is in Scorpio, Leo or Aquarius can lead to the potential for dangerous power plays and intense kink. Venus-Uranus and Mars-Uranus, especially the hard aspects and conjunction, will like to think outside of the box, as does Venus in Aquarius unless softened by other idealistic and sensitive aspects. This can result in 'electric' sexual encounters or a preference for sex that is kinky and outside of the norm. These individuals will be the ones most likely to try the new zany sex toy on the market before it becomes popular, and may try to force their desires/kinks onto their partners because they think ahead of the times and are sure their partners will enjoy unique sex if they open their minds to exploration. Venus in Gemini may be more open to explore sex outside of conventional norms. I have met several who qualify for this. They may be more willing to try to experiment with their partners kinks as well, but not great with initiating kinky play. Erotic asphyxiation and a lot of dirty talk are possibilities for these folks. Mars opposite Pluto, like hard Venus-Pluto aspects, can struggle with sexual power plays. Fighting for dominance can be constructive and arousing or all-consuming and potentially dangerous. These people will be powerful players in the bedroom and must be careful when using any kind of physical force (spanking, asphyxiation/choking) on submissive partners. They are strong. They will want to experiment with power plays in the bedroom most of the time. Venus-Neptune can have some issues with sexual expression, especially with the hard aspects and conjunction. I can see these folks as having more of the desire to be dominated vs. dominate. Many sexual planets in H8, particularly Venus and Mars, can lead to intense sex. Couple this with aspects from Uranus, Pluto, and/or Neptune to either or both of these planets here and you have someone with a uniquely intense sex drive. Having a zany planet like Uranus or an all-consuming planet like Pluto in H8 along with or in place of the sexual planets can further increase the chances that sex will deviate from heteronormative standards, and what our culture sees as 'appropriate' sex (missionary position m/f). IP: Logged |
fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 760 From: George Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 10, 2014 01:16 AM
I think of perversion as rape. Anything between consenting adults is beautiful.------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Moderator Posts: 2427 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 10, 2014 01:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by fireopal09: I think of perversion as rape. Anything between consenting adults is beautiful.
Very good point. I agree that sexual perversion, in its totality, can be considered rape - taking advantage of a non-consenting adult or child. Interestingly, Joran van der Sloot has Venus in Leo square Pluto in Scorpio. Of course, most of us know that he was charged with the murder of Natalie Holloway some time ago. Venus-Pluto hard aspects can indicate serious sexual perversions, like the tendency toward sexual violence, in certain individuals...Joran was a prime candidate for this to go bad because Pluto was also in H7, worsening this configuration. (He also has many other aspects that I won't get into that indicate a heightened sensitivity to rejection that also did not help this aspect.) IP: Logged |