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PrettyPisces
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posted July 09, 2014 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was having a convo with my friend. And out of no where he says " You're a good person but their is something deceptive and manipulative about you, I don't know what it is , it's like always something underlying with you". Like you're hiding a secret . Then he asked do you have anything to say about that? I said no you are intitled to your opinion he said no do you feel that way? I said no again. He then said I gotta keep my eyes on you! He then said when your ready I'm open and ready ! He then asked me "Did I hear him?". I said yea. Do you think he really feels that way or is he hinting that he wants me to confirm what he thinks all along which is I have feelings for him?".... I went from speaking to him everyday to him calling me a couple times per week just briefing asking me how I'm doing , is my family okay , then hanging saying he'll speak to me later . I was in his presence this pass weekend and he didn't hug me but I did catch him staring at me . I'm having a problem with letting him know how I feel since he said that to me I don't know if he just wants to know or if he wants to know because he feels the same way ...I'm a pisces by the way

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posted July 09, 2014 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh no... not again :'(
I've heard too many cancer stories similar to this

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posted July 10, 2014 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(Oh my, I haven't been here in ages! Can't believe how time flies.)

I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Sometimes, Sun sign Cancer can withdraw when you are not more overt in your physical and emotional displays of affection. His paranoia about your behavior and his lack of contact is likely a defense mechanism - his Cancer shell. But really, more can't be said unless a synastry is posted to see what the relationship potential is between you too.

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infinite.nebula
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posted July 10, 2014 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for infinite.nebula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably wants to know if he/she can trust you. Cancers retreat just to come back again later. I hide out and sometime am brutally honest just to see what the answer or response is and from there see how honest a person can be. Did they find something out about u? Did you lie to their face? Lol Just asking could be some factors.

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charlie
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posted July 10, 2014 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is coming from someone who has dated quite a few Pisces (I am a Cancer): I don't think this is a good combo for lovers. Pisces is too passive for a Cancer which will result in the Cancer retreating and playing games. THAT in return will make Pisces passive aggressive and now all of a sudden we have a whole circus of a sh1tfest.

Just leave him alone. He will show up when or if he feels like it OR tell him how you feel and take it from there.

Final thought: he sounds very immature (doesn't know if he wants to know bla bla bla ZZZzzzzzZZZZzz) and that makes me think he doesn't like you the way you want him to like you.

Cancers can be pigs, just saying.

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PrettyPisces
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posted July 10, 2014 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At: SweetScorpion: my bday is 03/05/1990 1:21am his 3:23 am 07/05/1990. I don't know much but I do know his moon sign is in my 12th house . My moon sign is In his 1st house which explains a lot.

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posted July 10, 2014 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Infinite: did you read my passage? Or just the title ? He told me I was a good person but I come off as deceptive etc, and their is something underlying with me and it seems like I'm keeping a secret . Then he said I have to keep my eyes on you, when you're ready " I'm open and ready" . And he then said did I hear him . I honestly this think he knows I like him. I just don't understand why he cares to know this is not the first time he has question me .

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PrettyPisces
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posted July 10, 2014 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charlie : I don't know if you read it right lol. I'm the one who wants to know. Even thou he keeps questioning that isn't an indication the feelings are mutual . He may just be curious . But I think he is getting annoyed with me . I saw him this pass weekend . He didn't hug me , but I caught him staring at me like three times. And he told me I looked pretty. But he's distant as far as communication goes

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posted July 10, 2014 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PrettyPisces:
Charlie : I don't know if you read it right lol. I'm the one who wants to know. Even thou he keeps questioning that isn't an indication the feelings are mutual . He may just be curious . But I think he is getting annoyed with me . I saw him this pass weekend . He didn't hug me , but I caught him staring at me like three times. And he told me I looked pretty. But he's distant as far as communication goes

All this miscommunication is EASILY solved speaking your mind in regards to him. Tell him how you feel and all problems are solved.

Any guy in history of men that are being distant are being distant because they don't want to be closer. Unless he is superrrrrrrrrrr shy and pees in his pants everytime he sees you..

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posted July 10, 2014 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PrettyPisces:
I was having a convo with my friend. And out of no where he says " You're a good person but their is something deceptive and manipulative about you, I don't know what it is , it's like always something underlying with you". Like you're hiding a secret . Then he asked do you have anything to say about that? I said no you are intitled to your opinion he said no do you feel that way? I said no again. He then said I gotta keep my eyes on you! He then said when your ready I'm open and ready ! He then asked me "Did I hear him?". I said yea. Do you think he really feels that way or is he hinting that he wants me to confirm what he thinks all along which is I have feelings for him?".... I went from speaking to him everyday to him calling me a couple times per week just briefing asking me how I'm doing , is my family okay , then hanging saying he'll speak to me later . I was in his presence this pass weekend and he didn't hug me but I did catch him staring at me . I'm having a problem with letting him know how I feel since he said that to me I don't know if he just wants to know or if he wants to know because he feels the same way ...I'm a pisces by the way

People often think that Gemini plays mind games.Cancer can play some mean heart games.

This line especially;

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Originally posted by PrettyPisces:
" You're a good person but their is something deceptive and manipulative about you, I don't know what it is , it's like always something underlying with you".



I'd tell him to go jump!

He is trying to coerce a reaction from you so that he can save face.

You will tell him of your feelings for him when you are good and ready. He is trying to get the "upper" hand.

If he is so convinced that you are "manipulative", "undermining" etc, he should give you instances where you did that.

I bet his answer will be "I can't give you any examples. Its just the way I "feel" you are". The Nerve!!! Why I oughta *swings a fist*

If he has feelings for you, he must just man up and say what he wants to say. He mustn't play these sorts of primitive reverse psychology games. Its childish.

And you like someone who says words like that to you???? Good Luck.

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charlie
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posted July 10, 2014 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
People often think that Gemini plays mind games.Cancer can play some mean heart games.

This line especially;

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PrettyPisces:[b]
" You're a good person but their is something deceptive and manipulative about you, I don't know what it is , it's like always something underlying with you".




I'd tell him to go jump!

He is trying to coerce a reaction from you so that he can save face.

You will tell him of your feelings for him when you are good and ready. He is trying to get the "upper" hand.

If he is so convinced that you are "manipulative", "undermining" etc, he should give you instances where you did that.

I bet his answer will be "I can't give you any examples. Its just the way I "feel" you are". The Nerve!!! Why I oughta *swings a fist*

If he has feelings for you, he must just man up and say what he wants to say. He mustn't play these sorts of primitive reverse psychology games. Its childish.

And you like someone who says words like that to you???? Good Luck.

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Geminis are moody which might result in them changing their minds (being fickle) a lot. Cancers are players due to their often low self esteem and they won't stop until their passive aggressive bs have been satiated. Trust! Gems need mental stimulation, who can blame them?? Cancers need constant attention or they will vanish/cheat/sulk/pull a fast one. This is of course MY take on MY experiences with the two signs so don't kill me!

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Comatoes
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posted July 10, 2014 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does he have any Scorpio in his chart, Mercury/Pluto, Pluto in the 3rd?

This really comes down to synastry, somewhere in the synastry chart there most likely is showing why this is -- since this is a trust factor, you need to look at planets like Mercury, Pluto, Moon, even Neptune. I know that Neptune/Moon in synastry can give foggy issues with trust and deception.

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margym0o
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posted July 10, 2014 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am in my first relationship with a Cancer (me being a Gemini) and all I have to say is thank HEAVENS for astrology otherwise I would have kicked him to the curb a while ago. Cancer men are...unique, let's put it that way. I took in a lot of what I read about Cancer men and have been infinitely patient with mine. In the beginning I couldn't understand why he would be all happy, chatty and engaging one day and the next day I could barely get two words out of him. I quickly learned that as quick as the moods come, they will pass. Thankfully mine has never pulled the infamous Cancer "disappearing act" but I think he is a little more evolved (being almost 32 years old).

I think Cancer men appreciate strong women - women who will stand by their side and press on through their mood swings. No matter how I am feeling I always remain upbeat and positive in an effort to keep things as normal as possible until he comes around. If he is being overly quiet or distant, then I simply leave him alone. I leave it up to him to text or call me, and he always does. It's gotten to the point where I can predict what kind of mood he is in based on how he responds to me. It took a while before I learned, but then I saw a pattern. Now I am comfortable enough to call him out on it when he's being crabby and I think he appreciates it. I continue on with my usual tactics and again, he always comes around.

Does it still bother me sometimes? Of course it does. I appreciate complete transparency in relationships and I am getting used to being with someone so guarded, but like every relationship there are positives as well and who can resist Cancer love?

In regards to this situation, passive aggressive behaviour is practically the hallmark of this sign. I too have heard something similar from him in the past - "Uh oh there's the two-faced Gemini coming out" or "You're so mysterious" and they definitely are trying to provoke a reaction out of you (almost like they're testing you) but I learned you simply cannot probe for any explanation, you won't get one! They will side-step around it. I now will just brush it off and laugh and continue on (as much as I am secretly biting my tongue) being my normal self and it doesn't seem to go any further than that. They definitely don't always mean what they say.

They want to know that you will be there for them through all of their ups and downs with a smiling face so my advice is to just continue being your usual, happy, upbeat self - pretending like nothing is wrong around him or if you are apart - just leave him be. If he comes back around, he either resolved whatever was going on in his head and is ready to pop back out of the shell or if he doesn't, take that as a serious red flag and reevaluate your situation with him.

Edit: I should add in response to other comments above that displaying and conveying my affection is also KEY. Throughout it all I am always almost overly physically affectionate (I am like this naturally anyways) and am constantly reminding him verbally how I feel about him or how he makes me feel or how great I think he is. Sounds barf-worthy I know but this really, really helps, especially when we're hanging out together and he's being crabby. It's another thing I can do to help him pull out of his funk.

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posted July 10, 2014 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We both have Pluto In scorpio. I dont know in what house.how can I find out? I find myself not really trusting him and he's always questioning me. But I think that has something to do with his moon in my 12th and mines in his 1st. Very intense sometimes

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posted July 10, 2014 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At aries23degrees: it's so funny you mention that . The week previous we were talking and I was talking about my bestfriend saying she's genuine and non- judgemental . So he says yea but you're not. I'm like that's the first time I heard that . What made you say that ? He 's like I'm not going to get into that . Then I said to him that's some heavy words you're dropping and your NOT even giving me any feedback ; so if I said something wrong I can humble myself and sincerely apologize and reframe from saying whatever I said to make you put me in that category . Then he said ok. But NEVER told me what was what. I paid it NO dust , at the end of the day I'm loyal, compassionate spirit . I'm a pisces **** someone would do something to me before I did someone to them ....unfortunately . You are right he wants the upper hand. All other girls and people are always up his ass. He has soooo many yes people around him smh. I need to tell him how I feel because I have special feelings for him but **** like this is why I don't go after him ( NOT Chase) I mean address the situation

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posted July 10, 2014 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At Charlie: he has venus in gemini and rising gemini . So yes he loves talking on the phone , letters , like I stayed on the phone with him for hours before . And he hates to be bored. I'm like that as well I'm a venus in aquarius . Btw the way his venus is in 12th house yikkkkkessss. All his gfs I know of cheated on him and they were all air signs with the exception of one gemini .

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posted July 10, 2014 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for infinite.nebula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PrettyPisces:
Infinite: did you read my passage? Or just the title ? He told me I was a good person but I come off as deceptive etc, and their is something underlying with me and it seems like I'm keeping a secret . Then he said I have to keep my eyes on you, when you're ready " I'm open and ready" . And he then said did I hear him . I honestly this think he knows I like him. I just don't understand why he cares to know this is not the first time he has question me .

Yes. I read your passage...

His moon in your 12. I guess that's worth looking into.

Good luck.

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posted July 11, 2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@PrettyPisces: Normally men with Cancer Sun/Gemini Venus have the reputation for being the cheaters. What are the rest of his placements?

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Haplesschild*
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posted July 12, 2014 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow he sounds like a total tool. Why are you wasting time on him?

Oh and cancer sun and venus guys do have an inclination to be cheaters. The ex that cheated on me was one.

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posted July 12, 2014 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's a jerkoff that doesn't deserve anymore of your attention
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Originally posted by PrettyPisces:
At aries23degrees: it's so funny you mention that . The week previous we were talking and I was talking about my bestfriend saying she's genuine and non- judgemental . So he says yea but you're not. I'm like that's the first time I heard that . What made you say that ? He 's like I'm not going to get into that . Then I said to him that's some heavy words you're dropping and your NOT even giving me any feedback ; so if I said something wrong I can humble myself and sincerely apologize and reframe from saying whatever I said to make you put me in that category . Then he said ok. But NEVER told me what was what. I paid it NO dust , at the end of the day I'm loyal, compassionate spirit . I'm a pisces **** someone would do something to me before I did someone to them ....unfortunately . You are right he wants the upper hand. All other girls and people are always up his ass. He has soooo many yes people around him smh. I need to tell him how I feel because I have special feelings for him but **** like this is why I don't go after him ( NOT Chase) I mean address the situation

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posted July 14, 2014 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0
Sun Cancer 13.02 Ascendant Gemini 13.48
Moon Sagittarius 12.18 II Cancer 5.03
Mercury Cancer 16.10 III Cancer 24.59
Venus Gemini 12.14 IV Leo 17.35
Mars Aries 25.01 V Virgo 17.31
Jupiter Cancer 20.16 VI Libra 28.57
Saturn Capricorn 22.42 R VII Sagittarius 13.48
Uranus Capricorn 7.22 R VIII Capricorn 5.03
Neptune Capricorn 13.12 R IX Capricorn 24.59
Pluto Scorpio 15.06 R Midheaven Aquarius 17.35
Lilith Scorpio 27.06 XI Pisces 17.31
Asc node Aquarius 7.28 XII Aries 28.57
Idk if you can read his chart Mary. But that's him

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posted July 14, 2014 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Mary here is my chart. Just in case you wanted to know Sun Pisces 14.25 Ascendant Sagittarius 13.19
Moon Gemini 29.35 II Capricorn 18.08
Mercury Pisces 2.39 III Aquarius 28.20
Venus Aquarius 1.04 IV Aries 4.37
Mars Capricorn 25.16 V Taurus 2.35
Jupiter Cancer 0.55 VI Taurus 24.28
Saturn Capricorn 22.30 VII Gemini 13.19
Uranus Capricorn 8.55 VIII Cancer 18.08
Neptune Capricorn 14.06 IX Leo 28.20
Pluto Scorpio 17.44 R Midheaven Libra 4.37
Lilith Scorpio 13.30 XI Scorpio 2.35
Asc node Aquarius 16.21 XII Scorpio 24.28

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posted July 14, 2014 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To HaplessChild: he does like a ******* . I will say I played a major part in this situation . I did not tell him how I feel. I was constantly ambiguous / indirect . Instead of expressing myself . I spoke to his bestfriend of literally of his entire life and he said we both need to stop playing games and say how we feel . I feel bad because I thought he was not just talking to me but apparently his family nor his bestfriend has heard from him . I am concern at the moment . I'll give an update when anything changes

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posted July 15, 2014 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regardless of how you act, what he said was jerky as hell.

If you tolerate it, he will just continue that behaviour. It's all about self respect really, I'm sure you can do better than this ...'winner.'

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