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Topic: Venus trine Saturn (Natally)
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margym0o
Newflake Posts: 17
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 10, 2014 02:20 PM
  
How annoying is this aspect?????I've never experienced a relationship where the other person has had this aspect so I can't relate to the receiving end, but for me I feel this aspect big time and it's exhausting. I feel as though I'm always the more mature, responsible and level-headed one in the relationship and I always tend to give more than I receive (my Venus is also in Leo which probably plays a part). I accept my partners despite their glaring flaws and often put my needs/desires on the back-burner to keep the peace or please them. I also have Venus square Pluto natally which is such a joy...not. For once I would love to be the stubborn, needy and selfish one. IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues
Knowflake Posts: 113
From: The future... or the past. I get them confused...
Registered: May 2014
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posted July 10, 2014 02:57 PM
What sign, house, and aspects to your Saturn?I have this, but in water. Venus Rx in Cancer conj NN. Saturn sR in Pisces 4th house. But Saturn is also involved in both a grand water trine and a mutible T Square for me, so it's... um... well integrated. I don't love lightly, nor do I stop loving just because the relationship ended. I feel "responsible" to support the other's emotional health and needs. I think it also (in Saturn fashion) gets easier as you get older, as your potential "other" gets more mature. I've found in my youth I had more older others than younger. Not by a lot, just 1-5 years. But since I'm the guy, for my generation that was a little unusual. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
Knowflake Posts: 1633
From: PA, USA
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 10, 2014 02:58 PM
I have Venus in Scorpio trine Saturn in Pisces. Saturn squares my ASC/DSC axis. So relationships are not a piece of cake for me either, unfortunately. When you have a Saturnine influence to your DSC and/or Venus, you may feel like you are giving and giving and cannot take or that your partner takes advantage of your generosity and won't give back. It's a very troubling aspect but at the same time it speaks of some inner insecurity. I feel Saturn is a planet of both growth and insecurity. You can grow from this insecurity/insecurities, too. You might feel insecure in love and dislike a part of yourself so you seek out the affections of others...or it could be the opposite where you feel you don't deserve love so you either avoid it, or when you find it you give and give as much you can to avoid losing it. All of this is imbalanced due to insecurity. I have experienced this myself with my similar configuration. You were not meant to be selfish or needy - in fact, it's likely that being selfish terrifies you, because you feel you don't deserve to have the love and acceptance that other people seem to naturally get and receive with open arms. You need to ask yourself WHY you feel this way and get to the root of your feelings of being undeserving. I wish the same thing. Why can't I just take and take? Well, I feel 1/2 of the time like I'm pathetic and a bad person. Of course it's going to translate over to my romantic life - I'll feel like I'm a 'bad' person who doesn't deserve love, even though I wish I could be selfish enough to just take from other people...Saturn is teaching me a karmic lesson with a big STOP sign saying 'No, you can't do that - you need to grow, and take love only when you're ready and it means something to you'. The key is to achieving balance. Saturn in Libra is dignified, or so I have read [if memory serves me correct]. Even with positive Venus-Saturn there may still be some block despite how this would be a more positive aspect. Learning to love yourself without a partner loving your true self for you, as well as learning how to have a balanced partnership, is very important. You may want to seek someone older in age or someone more mature because they will probably have a greater capacity to have a balanced partnership vs. a younger person still discovering him/herself and prone to making selfish/ignorant decisions in love due to inexperience. Hope that helped. IP: Logged |
margym0o
Newflake Posts: 17
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 10, 2014 03:32 PM
Here is my personal chart. I know my Venus is in Leo and my Saturn is in Sagittarius but I am still relatively new to astrology so I don't want to misspeak in terms of interpreting anything else.   IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues
Knowflake Posts: 113
From: The future... or the past. I get them confused...
Registered: May 2014
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posted July 10, 2014 04:19 PM
Just as an aside... I love that kite in your chart! It has a real "ideas into action" vibe.As for the topic... SS has the right of this. I see Neptune exact inconjunct to venus as well. Along with Pluto, Saturn, and Juno, its like its own subset formation designed to teach you something important about love and the different pitfalls to avoid. IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag
Knowflake Posts: 1032
From: Your imagination
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 10, 2014 04:22 PM
Try having the conjunction with both venus and saturn in the 4th lololol. A venus trine anyday. IP: Logged |
SDragon
Moderator Posts: 321
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 10, 2014 06:03 PM
Now that I'm older, I've learned to truly enjoy my Venus trine Saturn. But ya, growing up, not so much. IP: Logged |
margym0o
Newflake Posts: 17
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 10, 2014 07:59 PM
@sweet-scorpion: Thank you for your insights. Admittedly I do feel a lot of things you were describing. For me it is definitely a fear of loss that drives me to always be giving. I am not much of a dater and have found myself in only a few long-term relationships throughout my 20's. I love to love and enjoy the steady companionship that brings. I feel like the need to find my "one true love" and build a life together is what drives me. The fear of being alone is definitely an insecurity of mine and I have come to realize the emotional importance I place on relationships which directly affects my happiness in all areas of my life. My first two relationships spoiled me - they were heavily emotionally involved. My most recent and my current relationship have been a complete shock to my system. Suddenly I am faced with the idea of creating my own independence (having my own life) within a relationship and have learned A LOT about how important that really is - though it is a tough lesson to learn, and I'm still learning!!!!@Gemini Blues: Can you explain that a little more? @SDragon: When did it turn around for you? I know what you mean... IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 8774
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 10, 2014 08:02 PM
What's really weird is if you have an aspect between Venus and Saturn, regardless of which one, you tend to attract friends and have relatives with aspects between these two.IP: Logged |
margym0o
Newflake Posts: 17
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 10, 2014 08:09 PM
It's funny you say that because my dad has Venus oppose Saturn in his natal and my parents have Venus trine Saturn in their synastry. They fight like the dickens but almost 30 years later they're still going! AND my best friend has Venus oppose Saturn in her natal! Spooky.IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
Knowflake Posts: 1633
From: PA, USA
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 10, 2014 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by margym0o:
@sweet-scorpion: Thank you for your insights. Admittedly I do feel a lot of things you were describing. For me it is definitely a fear of loss that drives me to always be giving. I am not much of a dater and have found myself in only a few long-term relationships throughout my 20's. I love to love and enjoy the steady companionship that brings. I feel like the need to find my "one true love" and build a life together is what drives me. The fear of being alone is definitely an insecurity of mine and I have come to realize the emotional importance I place on relationships which directly affects my happiness in all areas of my life. My first two relationships spoiled me - they were heavily emotionally involved. My most recent and my current relationship have been a complete shock to my system. Suddenly I am faced with the idea of creating my own independence (having my own life) within a relationship and have learned A LOT about how important that really is - though it is a tough lesson to learn, and I'm still learning!!!!
I am glad my writing could help you some and that it made sense. You described your challenge very well... finding your own identity in a relationship is key, along with accepting the responsibilities of a relationship, in order for true love to be possible for Saturn-Venus people. There should be action toward finding balance for both individuals and one should not give [or take] more than the other! It's very important. As you said, you are learning still and it will take time. I think you will come through this will knowledge and wisdom and find the right person who can appreciate you for you. IP: Logged |
SDragon
Moderator Posts: 321
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 10, 2014 10:04 PM
First Saturn Return... so between the ages of 28-30. That's when Saturn usually asks "So, did you finally grow up and learn what you needed to?".IP: Logged |
MagnumJoe
Knowflake Posts: 255
From: Cairo, Egypt
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 10, 2014 10:19 PM
You should feel lucky you don't have the conjunction .IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues
Knowflake Posts: 113
From: The future... or the past. I get them confused...
Registered: May 2014
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posted July 11, 2014 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by margym0o:
@sweet-scorpion: Thank you for your insights. Admittedly I do feel a lot of things you were describing. For me it is definitely a fear of loss that drives me to always be giving. I am not much of a dater and have found myself in only a few long-term relationships throughout my 20's. I love to love and enjoy the steady companionship that brings. I feel like the need to find my "one true love" and build a life together is what drives me. The fear of being alone is definitely an insecurity of mine and I have come to realize the emotional importance I place on relationships which directly affects my happiness in all areas of my life. My first two relationships spoiled me - they were heavily emotionally involved. My most recent and my current relationship have been a complete shock to my system. Suddenly I am faced with the idea of creating my own independence (having my own life) within a relationship and have learned A LOT about how important that really is - though it is a tough lesson to learn, and I'm still learning!!!!@Gemini Blues: Can you explain that a little more? @SDragon: When did it turn around for you? I know what you mean...
Neptune inconjunct Venus can affect how clearly you see your partner. You may see what you wish, or perhaps what you fear, in a relationship. Pluto square venus can cause some of the passion, and the fear, you describe. In its worst form, it can lead to obsession and a desire to manipulate or control. The good news here is actually the Saturn trine, calling you to build a more stable and mature relationship. Juno trine Venus adds a little romance and boosts the self images of you and your partner while in the relationship. And there is, as has been said here already, a probability of you finding an older or more mature partner more suitable for a relationship. IP: Logged |
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