posted July 11, 2014 03:32 PM            

I was expecting Mars in Scorpio or some charismatic placement.

I found Moon conj Pluto.

My question is how does this differ, in a real world way, from Moon in Scorpio.

This same question could go to any placement.

How does Venus con Pluto differ from a Scorpio venus etc

Thanks

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posted July 11, 2014 04:37 PM            

I have natal Moon conjunct Pluto 3° applying.

They both square my Sun-Venus conj., so I also have a tight Venus-Pluto square and Sun-Pluto square.

I've read many descriptions of Scorpio Moon that describe me, as well as descriptions of Scorpio Venus and Sun... even though all I have in Scorpio is BMLilith.

So, I can't say which has the stronger effect, the planet in the sign or the planet closely aspecting the sign's ruler. The same goes for the planet in the house. I know people with their Sun or Moon in 8th, nothing in Scorpio, no close Pluto aspects, yet they still act very Plutonian.

This makes me tend to think of them as all being almost interchangeable really.

posted July 11, 2014 07:37 PM            

The planet conjunct as hard edge, more difficult to control and more turbulence.
Can be mastered but takes time and practice to obtain the level of control that the sign has.

posted July 11, 2014 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I view it as the sign being a bit more soft and free flowing. More in control of the energy at play.

The planet conjunct as hard edge, more difficult to control and more turbulence.
Can be mastered but takes time and practice to obtain the level of control that the sign has.

That's just my viewpoint.

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Great post. Thanks, DF!

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posted July 11, 2014 08:50 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I view it as the sign being a bit more soft and free flowing. More in control of the energy at play.

The planet conjunct as hard edge, more difficult to control and more turbulence.
Can be mastered but takes time and practice to obtain the level of control that the sign has.

That's just my viewpoint.

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That's a great explanation, DeepFreeze. Makes a lot of sense thinking of it that way.

In practice, I can see what you're saying. Since my Sun conjuncts Venus, this can make me act very Libran, but I don't think it's as softly or gently Libran as a Libra Sun would be. It feels more overt.

posted July 11, 2014 09:07 PM            

I might have details wrong and everyone is different. Some may disagree completely.
I have Pluto/asc in Libra.

The moon I imagine might be like...
Scorpio moon feels natural and at home to have such intense emotion. That's just them and they may not mind.

Libra Pluto conjunct moon would perhaps be very similar but not quite able to keep some things in check because Pluto is a planet of extremes. But mostly just uncomfortable with such deep emotion. They want to feel balanced and light but that's just not the way they are. Might be some internal unrest until they learn control and accept it... Find balance while expressing Pluto in healthy ways.

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posted July 11, 2014 09:24 PM            

Astrology is like a never ending learning experience I think, like my job and I love that.
But I feel kind of proud sometimes to have come so far in 10 months trying to grasp it.
Edit:
Thanks Ami

posted July 12, 2014 08:01 AM            

So, I guess it is like the Scorpio Moon is more seamless and more free flowing that Moon conj Pluto which may be more like a tight dress that you wear to the party but can't wait to get home to take it off

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posted July 12, 2014 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You are welcome, DF!

So, I guess it is like the Scorpio Moon is more seamless and more free flowing that Moon conj Pluto which may be more like a tight dress that you wear to the party but can't wait to get home to take it off

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Yeah
The tight dress being Libra when at home Pluto is free.
Virgo may try to rationalize the emotions... Good luck!

I think of it like the sign is a nice glass of orange juice. The planet conjunction is like a teaspoon of the concentrate in the bottom. If you hit it (aspect this point) it's like, "whoa! That was a potent something or other... Jeez" Like mercury/pluto might be like, "whoa I wasn't expecting that" when you hear them speak or share deeper thoughts. Where as the sign it might be a little more apparent on the surface, through body language and other subtle clues.
The planets are the ruler Of the signs so I see it as these little concentrated doses of that energy.

posted July 12, 2014 01:04 PM            

My mom has a Scorpio Moon in 8H (with sun and merc) sq Leo Pluto and she is just a mess.

They are both very intelligent but my mom can't handle her share so she drinks it away.

posted July 12, 2014 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Well, my Dad has a Leo Moon exact to Leo Pluto and he is VERY intense and charismatic!

My mom has a Scorpio Moon in 8H (with sun and merc) sq Leo Pluto and she is just a mess.

They are both very intelligent but my mom can't handle her share so she drinks it away.

My Dad has a built in bs detector bar NONE I have ever met.

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Does your mom have Neptune conj the Sun, Charlie and I am very sorry to hear about her situation

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posted July 13, 2014 09:40 AM            

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Originally posted by earthypisces:
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posted July 13, 2014 05:20 PM            

I was thinking of people who have the same placements, coming together when the same placements hit the Node, especially when that is happening on the Vertex of one.