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Topic: Giving a lot more than what is returned in love?
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next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 1761 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 14, 2014 03:20 PM
All this 11th/5th house ruler has made me really nervous about something really important.My 11th house is in Aries and my virgo Mars in 4th house is hardly aspected by squaring uranus, conjunction sun and opposite moon. The sign Taurus is also intercepted in the 11th house, so I understand why I'm always so unpopular, especially according to females. All females really seems to not give a damn about me. On the other hand my 5th house ruler Venus sits in Scorpio, also in the 5th house. And my venus is only nice aspected by trine jupiter, sextile saturn, uranus and neptune and conjunction pluto, biquintile moon and trine MC. My scorpio pluto also sits in that house, and lilith. I feel I have a lot of love to GIVE to people. I feel that I'm mostly really nice, always treat strangers kindly and I would never be mean or cold towards anyone. But that is what I always get in return from people… no matter how nice I treat people they really seem to not really care about it. I cannot get through to people, people always treat me not so nice, and I can feel the anger building up inside me and making me depressed. It makes me don't believe in real love anymore, cause of that stupid 11th house ruler…. I don't know what to do about these feelings… no matter what they will probably always exist, simply because people actually just don't like me. But I still hope there is something I can do, cause otherwise I just don't really see a reason to live, seriously… IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 14, 2014 04:10 PM
This is interesting. I have always felt very similarly to you/have had a similar experience in my life.I never had a group of "girlfriends" growing up, not even to this day, and have only managed to maintain one or two close female friendships at a time. I can converse and relate to pretty much any female I encounter (including my co-workers) but it never seems to go any deeper than that. It's hard to foster friendships with those that "get" me. I have always been one to prefer the company of my significant other anyways, so it is partially my fault since I have been in consecutive relationships most of my adult life. On that note, I feel as though I am always the one to give and give in my personal relationships - and I genuinely want to to make them happy - but I guess a selfish part of me, at least on some level, expects a little reciprocation. I, like you, feel as though they don't really "care" enough to put that much thought into what I want or need or what would make me happy. Of course they do nice things for me once in a while, but never with the same passion or thought as me. This could just be the type of people I attract, or is it something in my natal? IP: Logged |
next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 1761 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 14, 2014 04:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by margym0o: This is interesting. I have always felt very similarly to you/have had a similar experience in my life.I never had a group of "girlfriends" growing up, not even to this day, and have only managed to maintain one or two close female friendships at a time. I can converse and relate to pretty much any female I encounter (including my co-workers) but it never seems to go any deeper than that. It's hard to foster friendships with those that "get" me. I have always been one to prefer the company of my significant other anyways, so it is partially my fault since I have been in consecutive relationships most of my adult life. On that note, I feel as though I am always the one to give and give in my personal relationships - and I genuinely want to to make them happy - but I guess a selfish part of me, at least on some level, expects a little reciprocation. I, like you, feel as though they don't really "care" enough to put that much thought into what I want or need or what would make me happy. Of course they do nice things for me once in a while, but never with the same passion or thought as me. This could just be the type of people I attract, or is it something in my natal?
Check your 11th house ruler and also the 5th! And maybe even your chiron? I got chiron in cancer in the 12th, closely conjunct my ascendant on top of that… this is also a trait of people being bullied, and though I never suffered from serious bullying, I always felt I had to walk on eggshells from keeping some situations for happening… and it was always about girls that was mean to me in my childhood. The problem is that my male-friendships often ends with them falling in love with me or wanting something completely else than a friendship…. it's very frustrating IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 14, 2014 04:27 PM
I think I have my Venus in Leo in 11th house (Leo is my 11th house ruler also) and Aquarius is my 5th house ruler. Is that right? Here is my chart: I experienced some female bullying in my elementary years. I too have yet to develop any strictly platonic male friendships. The ones I would consider my real "friends" now did tip the scales at some point but it did not go anywhere. I think I am charming/flirty/etc. without even meaning to be sometimes, or it is interpreted this way. IP: Logged |
next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 1761 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 14, 2014 04:43 PM
margym0o: Your 11th house ruler is leo yes, and your sun is in gemini, 10th house and trine pluto, square jupiter and opposite neptune/uranus. I'm not sure about it, but it's a little afflicted yes… but your 11th house is not intercepted, you seem to have a trapped sign in your 10th though, but both the 10th house and 4th house got planets in them, so that is a good thing… you also got venus in your 11th and that points to good relations to your circle… you don't have anything in the 5th house though (except an asteroid?) and your 5th house ruler uranus is afflicted by jupiter, the sun and chiron… you do have a very close venus square pluto also though, that could lead to some problems...
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