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Topic: Beyonce's Birth Time on Astrotheme
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Libracorn
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posted July 15, 2014 02:30 AM
  
Am I the only who whose noticed that Beyonce's birth time on Astrotheme was changed from 4:37am to 11:15am? I could've sworn Beyonce is a Leo Rising, she seems like a Leo Rising to me. The birth time 11:15am makes her a Scorpio Rising.Where does Astrotheme get their information from? Since when was Beyonce born at 11:15am? Do you guys think the new 11:15 chart matches Beyonce, or do you think the previous (4:37am) birth chart fits her better?
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hannaramaa
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posted July 15, 2014 03:16 AM
I don't know but I've never been more bored by a star in my life. I mean Leo or Scorpio, she doesn't emit real power or charisma to me. I blame her Sun.IP: Logged |
MineAgain
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posted July 15, 2014 05:47 AM
She's so unlikeable and pretentious. She's not an interesting celebrity to focus on (astrologically) to be honest. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
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From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune
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posted July 15, 2014 05:50 AM
I don't see how she's unlikeable to be honest. What did she do? Celebrities like Charlie Sheen are more unlikeable but we know how people drool over him and his likes.IP: Logged |
MineAgain
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posted July 15, 2014 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I don't see how she's unlikeable to be honest. What did she do? Celebrities like Charlie Sheen are more unlikeable but we know how people drool over him and his likes.
She's very "look at me, I'm so rich" type of ghetto rich. She doesn't have much class. Showing your wealth off is anything but class not to mention that she built half her singing career by wearing minimal clothing. She's talented but I think she's overrated.
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KarkaQueen
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posted July 15, 2014 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by MineAgain:
She's very "look at me, I'm so rich" type of ghetto rich. She doesn't have much class. Showing your wealth off is anything but class not to mention that she built half her singing career by wearing minimal clothing. She's talented but I think she's overrated.
I'm no Beyoncé stan.. or anyone celebrity's stan for that matter. But what's the difference between her getting famous over minimal clothing and the thousand other singers/actresses? Women are highly sexualized in this society. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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From: Portland, OR - USA
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posted July 15, 2014 08:33 AM
First, I personally have had to either question astrotheme.com's data source information or correct it a few times lately. Astrotheme is a notorious time/chart jumper. They will put up charts based on any ole time found anywhere on the internet even if the internet poster has no justification for it. Just go now and look at their data on Elizabeth Warren: http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Elizabeth_Warren ... Look at their source, a blog by someone who simply put up a chart with no data source given or even any attribution for the chart (which by the way was me & my rectified chart for Warren which appeared on my site in 2012, but which the aforementioned blogger did not credit). I recently had to correct their birth time info for author Carlos Castaneda:
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Carlos_Castaneda ... and yet they still got information wrong in citing me as the source, saying it was from an e-mail with Dr. Jay Fikes in June, when it was in July. Easy data to just cut-n-paste and they still got it wrong. The birth time, however, is correct as you can see here on Castaneda's Peruvian birth certificate (nueve a.m. = nine a.m.):
https://kannonmcafee.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/castaneda-birth-certificate.jpg So take it in context. Astrotheme is glad to correct data, but they are unreliable overall. So getting back to Beyonce's birth time, they cite this page on imdb:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0461498/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm which does not itself give a source. Still no good. I don't know who gave the previous time to astrotheme.com, but they do not keep a dialogue section on Sources of Data as they do at astrodatabank.com - a better, more reliable source for chart data. ------------------
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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 15, 2014 08:49 AM
To fully address the Beyonce chart as seen on astrotheme.com - It is wrong. She is not Scorpio rising. Nor is she Leo rising. Neither of those times hit it.------------------
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WarriorPrincess7
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posted July 15, 2014 08:58 AM
^But she acts and dresses like a leo rising. I mean she is called QUEEN B, and always wears gold and bright colors. Look at her "Run the World-Girls" video and tell me what you think...or "Diva" video, i mean she SCREAMS leo rising, its like if she actually googled her ascendant and adapted her style to it.IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted July 15, 2014 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by WarriorPrincess7:
^But she acts and dresses like a leo rising. I mean she is called QUEEN B, and always wears gold and bright colors. Look at her "Run the World-Girls" video and tell me what you think...or "Diva" video, i mean she SCREAMS leo rising, its like if she actually googled her ascendant and adapted her style to it.
i think this is called acting. or, having an on-stage persona. many celebrities are vastly different on-stage than in real life. they are portraying something/someone else. i think she even named herself something else once to explain this, right? because she said how she presents herself is not really her. this is why guessing ascendants never works, lol IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 15, 2014 10:41 AM
She has Saggi Rising to me.------------------
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WarriorPrincess7
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posted July 15, 2014 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
i think this is called acting. or, having an on-stage persona. many celebrities are vastly different on-stage than in real life. they are portraying something/someone else. i think she even named herself something else once to explain this, right? because she said how she presents herself is not really her. this is why guessing ascendants never works, lol
her family has alot of secrets, including a recent exposed one that she has another half-sibling due to her father's infidelity. Also, that leaked video of solange hitting jay-z...hello scorpio ic!!!!!! Yes, she is a leo rising. I am one too and i could feel it from her.
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Barbiegirl19
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posted July 15, 2014 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by MineAgain:
She's very "look at me, I'm so rich" type of ghetto rich. She doesn't have much class. Showing your wealth off is anything but class not to mention that she built half her singing career by wearing minimal clothing. She's talented but I think she's overrated.
Yes!! 🙌🙌  I agree sooo much. She is so weak to me but is forever trying to emit this "Queen Biatch" attitude. I can't stand her, no idea how or why she's as big as she is. She seems Leo(or some fire)to me, I don't get deep rooted anything from her and I think that's due to her sun, yet she has a fieriness. She comes across as "Virgin trashy" to me, tries to be a saint yet is classless to the upteenth degree. She does what people want her to do. I'd listen to same Britney Spears tunes over and over until the end of time if that meant I didn't have to hear anything about else Beyoncé again. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted July 15, 2014 12:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MineAgain:
She's very "look at me, I'm so rich" type of ghetto rich. She doesn't have much class. Showing your wealth off is anything but class not to mention that she built half her singing career by wearing minimal clothing. She's talented but I think she's overrated.
Just to play devil's advocate, she did just donate $7 million to the homeless in Houston, TX. I'm glad they have that money but I doubt the sincerity of celebrity donations most of the time. #taxwriteoff. IP: Logged |
BellaFenice
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From: Pseudo-Leo with a 1st House Stellium
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posted July 15, 2014 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by MineAgain:
She's so unlikeable and pretentious. She's not an interesting celebrity to focus on (astrologically) to be honest.
Sums it up for me. I don't like how she is being shamed here for producing a sexualize image at times, a woman has the right to be sexual. For me its the false 'I am so perfect and my life is so perfect' PR image she uses that rubs me the wrong way. Solange at the very least proved there is something murky in the water. I appreciate that she discussed and used some feminism in her latest album, but it came off as very fake because she has never discussed or promoted this topic. All of a sudden after she was criticized for her comments on female empowerment she is now a feminist? Not buying it. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted July 15, 2014 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
To fully address the Beyonce chart as seen on astrotheme.com - It is wrong. She is not Scorpio rising. Nor is she Leo rising. Neither of those times hit it.
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iliketurtles
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posted July 15, 2014 06:03 PM
its been changed at least twice. when i first looked her data up she was scorpio rising. then it changed to leo now its back to scorpio again. astrotheme always does thatIP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 16, 2014 08:05 AM
I think you have to say that she is raw talent though
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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 17, 2014 06:52 AM
I am actually looking more towards a fixed to mutable IC/DC sign. This would correlate better with the many events in her life.I think 1995 was particularly outstanding for her Her father quit his job to manage the girl's group at the time. This added a lot of pressure to the home income and the parents thereby separated. When I look at her chart,I see Moon-Uranus conjunct in Scorpio. This means that this separation by her parents is edged in her sub-conscious and she may have an inherent fear of separation/divorce or change of circumstances in her own marriage. Even though they got back together,I doubt things were the same between the parents. So,to me,this would have to give an indication of when her life was disrupted and she felt an "upheaval". All of this played out in 1995; when Pluto was transiting late Scorpio-early Sagittarius and formed a conjunction to the very disruptive Moon-Uranus conjunct in her natal chart. Also, Saturn was in mid-Virgo conjunct her Sun placement showing that there was added responsibility and she had to "rise to the occasion. I suspect that her Father was the stringent disciplinarian, she was appointed the lead singer of the girl group or there was a series of circumstances that made her work hard and "prove her worth" etc. But this had little to do with her Asc/MC positions. In April 4 2008,she got married. At the time Saturn was late Leo/early Virgo and if it touched her Asc/Dsc;it would explain her need to settle down and ground herself. On January 7 2012, she gave birth to her daughter. At the time of her child's birth, Neptune was in late Aquarius/early Pisces. And we all know just how secretive/shrouded in mystery the whole affair of the birth was. She,allegedly,booked a whole floor at the hospital for the birth. Yikes! Now if Neptune touches her IC/MC axis, this would correlate to this event perfectly. Her husband is also a mutable sign who has, interestingly enough,Venus-Neptune conjunct in LATE Scorpio/EARLY Sagittarius I strongly suspect a late fixed Asc to early mutable placement. Probably
late Scorpio to early Sag
late Aquarius to early Pisces
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goatcat
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posted July 17, 2014 12:35 PM
For those that say that Beyonce has a "ghetto rich" attitude, how long have you been following her?Back in the Destiny's Child and Dangerously in Love days, Beyonce definitely wasn't like that. At all. It wasn't really up until the release of her most recent album she actually grew a personality of some sort. Cmon now... IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted July 17, 2014 12:38 PM
^She definitely was. She just couldn't be because she was in a group. However she's always been the hbic. I loved Destiny's Child, all 3 of them, not just Beyoncé. I never latched onto her like everyone else did after she broke off from them. She's too damn into herself. Which is sooo her sun  . I think she's a fire ascendant, she has their charisma. IP: Logged |
goatcat
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posted July 17, 2014 12:42 PM
And she's definitely Leo rising. Her hair, her being the lead singer of destiny's child. Her Sun and moon sign humble it thoIP: Logged |
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