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Topic: People who are not like their chart
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Dancing Maenad Moderator Posts: 1169 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 16, 2014 03:56 PM
Usually when I look at a person's chart (that I know IRL) I get aha moments. But I can't help wondering what about the people who don't fit their charts? (such as myself) What is that about, in your opinion?Ever came across a person or celebrity that is not acting the way their chart says they should? ------------------ ~the raving one dancing in the nude~ IP: Logged |
Leocassandra Knowflake Posts: 529 From: Poland Registered: Jan 2013
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posted July 16, 2014 04:02 PM
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PixieJane Moderator Posts: 4836 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 16, 2014 04:24 PM
I see astrology as more about giving motivation and flavor than action. All the signs have good and bad sides to them, but the motivation for what they do is different. Those born at the same time but raised in very different families or even cultures will still be very different, though at the same time there's a lot of similarities between them (similar to twins split at birth and raised apart in very different homes) because their astrological traits react differently to different circumstances. And things like humor is affected, but not so much the music, at least not as much as many people think, though they'll likely have different reasons for liking the same music (some because of how traditional it is or isn't, because that's what they were raised with, the memories they associate with it, how friends or family think of it, just the sound, perhaps the message, if it seems to validate the listener or give a window into someone else's life which some find intriguing, etc). Likewise, that background can emphasize the best and worst of their signs as well, and what harms one sign won't harm another. Those with a lot of Sag in their chart can react well to being left alone a lot and don't want to be smothered, but treat someone with a lot of Cancer or Scorpio energy the same way and their dark side can manifest strongly. Raise a Libra in calm surroundings and they can live up to the charming stereotype, raise them in squalor and filth with arbitrary and often bitter behavior aimed at them on a regular basis and those Libras will become as mentally unbalanced as their scales with people wondering why they're not like a typical Libra at all while someone with a lot of Scorpio energy can transform themselves and their circumstances to rise above it...but not necessarily more compassionate for it (though they may be) whereas all that Scorpio energy might not care for the calm surroundings that Libra typically thrives in (they're driven to seek transformation which means a calm sitch may bore them or hold them back, perhaps even make them a bit too scared to transform as they want which can bother them). But for what stays the same, the individual still varies a lot, because there's so much to the chart (which is potential) and there's so much going on besides the chart (that shapes that potential). IP: Logged |
MagnumJoe Knowflake Posts: 266 From: Cairo, Egypt Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 16, 2014 04:30 PM
Actually i have seen something like this before.A guy who had his sun in leo and moon in sag, asc somewhere fiery too, venus and mars in air and earth, and the guy is soooooo quiet and humble. I remember asking him if he is sure that he was not born a day later, so he'd have his moon in cap. IP: Logged |
just_add_water Knowflake Posts: 62 From: florida Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 17, 2014 03:10 AM
Me and super star soccer player Lionel messi are exact birthday and 6 minutes off in timeWe are nothing alike .. In fact I read his book I followed a documentary Literally we have nothing in common I'm not close to his fame his achievements In fact my life is like complete opposite lol I hate sports I been in 2 marriages Weird IP: Logged |
next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 1779 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 17, 2014 03:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by just_add_water: Me and super star soccer player Lionel messi are exact birthday and 6 minutes off in timeWe are nothing alike .. In fact I read his book I followed a documentary Literally we have nothing in common I'm not close to his fame his achievements In fact my life is like complete opposite lol I hate sports I been in 2 marriages Weird
Well just because you don't follow the same life path, you could still be very much alike, sharing some of the same personality traits, the same way in viewing things, but maybe you grew up in some different environment which is the cause why you are so different... but I'm sure that you share some basic personality traits, but it doesn't have to be something lifechanging.... but it's interesting!!
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just_add_water Knowflake Posts: 62 From: florida Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 17, 2014 03:50 AM
Well I have an old high school friend that was born same year and day as me I could see sought of the same traits now that I look back but I deff not only know but see that environment is a huge factor..Anything that you expiernce in life alters brain chemistry Trauma , crisis , situations Etc Community , relationships these all alter brain chemistry I'm bigger than my natal chart on behalf of meditation and other self growing tips Though the tendency still exist I can shape myself to whom ever I want to be .. I completely believe you can out grow a natal chart and not progression transit wise. But sheer free will and by learning the basic mechanics of how our brain works and how we can control the way we think and behave. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 721 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 17, 2014 04:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by MagnumJoe: Actually i have seen something like this before.A guy who had his sun in leo and moon in sag, asc somewhere fiery too, venus and mars in air and earth, and the guy is soooooo quiet and humble. I remember asking him if he is sure that he was not born a day later, so he'd have his moon in cap.
Could the house placements play a role? Katie Holmes has Asc in Leo, Sun in Sagittarius, Moon in Leo, Mercury in Sagittarius,Venus in Scorpio and Mars in Capricorn. With Asc in Leo and Sun/Moon/Mercury in fire,she is "supposed" to be on fire; vivacious,outspoken and one who makes a mark. But,in interviews and even in her movies, she comes across so awkward,flat and shy that its cringe-worthy. I looked at her chart and found that Neptune conjunct Sun(wide orb of 8 degrees),Uranus ,Neptune,Venus and Mercury is in the 4th house. Neptune there,especially,is the reason why she is so shy. Also the Moon is in the 12th house; Neptune influenced 12th house also increases this propensity to be private. Look more to the houses as well as the planetary aspects. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 721 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 17, 2014 04:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by just_add_water: Me and super star soccer player Lionel messi are exact birthday and 6 minutes off in timeWe are nothing alike .. In fact I read his book I followed a documentary Literally we have nothing in common I'm not close to his fame his achievements In fact my life is like complete opposite lol I hate sports I been in 2 marriages Weird
Oh wow, how my heart bleeds for Lionel Messi now.It's not fair how everyone is picking on him because of the loss suffered by his country Argentina. Newspapers,news anchors and even Maradona himself has jumped in on the bandwagon in calling his golden Ball win to question-all because of one game with Germany. I thought the ball was based on overall performance-Yikes!!!! The whole time when his team looked dejected and he went up to shake hands and receive the award,I was thinking that if I was his girlfriend,I would hold him to my big breasted bosom and tell him "It's not your fault." Over and over again. Since he is a Cancer,I think he'll appreciate that. I looked at his chart and realized that we have the following connections; His Venus trines my Mars My Venus trines his Mars My Moon conjuncts his Mars My Mars trines his Moon. His Mercury squares my Mars His Mars squares my Mercury I really like this kid. I liked him even before checking his chart and finding these double whammy's. Astrology is really something else! IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 872 From: Λ Άρης Λ Registered: Jan 2013
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posted July 17, 2014 10:57 AM
I think you fit your big 3 Fire Queen IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3900 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 17, 2014 02:04 PM
Could it be a hard aspect between The Sun and Ascendant?The Sun hides it's core with hard aspects to the Ascendant. just a thought... ------------------
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Janah Knowflake Posts: 81 From: Berkeley, CA Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 17, 2014 03:05 PM
We cannot leave out asteroids and hypothetical planets that really have influence on a person. As well as the decans and duads. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9697 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 18, 2014 06:05 AM
Hmm. Never met anyone like that. But I have met people who didn't seem like their sun sign.IP: Logged |