posted July 17, 2014 06:47 PM            

I have always found other heavy 12th house people or heavily Neptune/Pisces influenced people to be some of my closest relationships. We just seem to "get" each other on a completely different level. So much about our personalities that other people don't get or don't like we just seem to know, understand, accept, and even appreciate almost unconditionally, without explanation or even words sometimes. There's just a deep spiritual kinship.

I have yet to run across another heavy 12th/Neptune/Pisces person that irritated or annoyed me in any way that mattered. I guess it would be different if the person had a very afflicted 12th house or 12th house ruler. Then, they might not like their own 12th house energy, which could make them not like mine... which could cause proplems between us.

So, maybe if two people BOTH had afflicted 12th house planets or afflicted 12th house rulers, then those two people might just set each other off in a bad way.

posted July 17, 2014 06:57 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I meant irritate others in general, not necessarily someone with twelfth house emphasized.

I find I can, sometimes, without even trying. It's like a strange gift I have

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I have Pluto in the 12th. It disposits 2 of my major planets, Venus and Mercury. It is trine Mars in the 8th quite tightly. So I don't have many planets here, but I still feel that influence in my life on a daily basis! Sometimes I feel like my Venus was meant to be in the 12th since it's about 4 degrees away from the cusp anyway...

posted July 17, 2014 06:59 PM              

It's usually kind of blessing to find those with 12th. But not always.

There's one with whom we shared mercury/venus dw. Both heavy 12th, same sign, basically and planets involved. Same sun sign too!
There was friendship and unrequited love. That seemed to be a big downfall. Plus, with mercury Venus dw you might believe that communication was incredible. Not so. Neptune was also involved both ways to mercury and Venus and we talked, but something seemed to be missing.
We never did irritate each other though.

Another, they have heavy 12th but a totally different sign and we can irritate each other at the snap of a finger. Not hard at all.
It's almost enjoyable. How sick am I? lol

posted July 17, 2014 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:

Then there's Barbie. Most know about that. 12th at it's best!

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posted July 17, 2014 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I meant irritate others in general, not necessarily someone with twelfth house emphasized.

I find I can, sometimes, without even trying. It's like a strange gift I have

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Oh, ok, I misunderstood your question. I think I agree with what the others said. The way that my heavy 12th seems to irritate others most is that they get peeved if I'm not as forthcoming with personal information as they'd like. I just heavily guard my deepest self. It's not something anyone can easily get at unless I want them to.

That is... unless they put planets into my 12th house. When that happens, they penetrate my defenses with no effort at all. I am extremely vulnerable to those people. If they care about me, then it is indescribably sweet. If they mean me harm, then it is indescribably painful.

It does annoy people, though, when they readily disclose their deepest thoughts and feelings and I keep my cards close to the vest. I will eventually open up, but I have to emotionally trust the person first. That's my Cancer AC/Mars/Mercury coming into play.

posted July 17, 2014 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I agree with wild horses.
Which I have those minus the sun.

It's usually kind of blessing to find those with 12th. But not always.

There's one with whom we shared mercury/venus dw. Both heavy 12th, same sign, basically and planets involved. Same sun sign too!
There was friendship and unrequited love. That seemed to be a big downfall. Plus, with mercury Venus dw you might believe that communication was incredible. Not so. Neptune was also involved both ways to mercury and Venus and we talked, but something seemed to be missing.
We never did irritate each other though.

Another, they have heavy 12th but a totally different sign and we can irritate each other at the snap of a finger. Not hard at all.
It's almost enjoyable. How sick am I? lol

Then there's Barbie. Most know about that. 12th at it's best!

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posted July 17, 2014 07:29 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
My guilty joy can be in irritating others at times.

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posted July 17, 2014 08:42 PM              

I can always feel it. Man, do I feel it at work. With a LOT of people I feel like some kind of alien. I just feel this.... Really crazy energy and I keep pretty quiet. Mostly in group settings. One on one is not so bad. In groups I do speak up sometimes but I can tell it just went right over everybody and they didn't understand somehow.

posted July 17, 2014 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Oh in that case not hard at all! Many times when I'd prefer neither of us be irritated.

I can always feel it. Man, do I feel it at work. With a LOT of people I feel like some kind of alien. I just feel this.... Really crazy energy and I keep pretty quiet. Mostly in group settings. One on one is not so bad. In groups I do speak up sometimes but I can tell it just went right over everybody and they didn't understand somehow.

And what wild horses said. Damn it's awesome when they're all ticked off and I just look and talk to them like, "What are you all mad about? Be mad. I'm not the one who has to live with it."

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posted July 17, 2014 09:00 PM              

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Originally posted by IV XXIV:
This this this. Sometimes I feel like I don't fit in places with people and a lot of the times I'll introvert it and try to figure out what's wrong with me. Unfortunately, I care too much what others think and feel towards me to be so apathetic towards their anger. I become anxious and walk on eggshells when I sense people are upset with me or simply don't like me. Terrible because of how intuitive I am - I'll pick up on the slightest mood change, facial expression, or tone of voice. Hate it so much sometimes.

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Yeah I'm pretty intuitive also but I have to learn to trust it.

posted July 17, 2014 09:39 PM            

I know some other people with heavy 12th house influence, at 1st it went kinda well probably because the 12th house makes things seem "prettier". Eventually I saw them for what they are. But meh this happens with most people.

With my parents, meh they have 12th house planets, not the sun though. Just irritating.

posted July 17, 2014 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:

It does annoy people, though, when they readily disclose their deepest thoughts and feelings and I keep my cards close to the vest.

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This often happens to me. Thing is often I'm not the one who invites them to share their thoughts/secrets/etc... So I find it weird when they want me to do the same. Sometimes I get suspicious n feel like they throw a bit of bait to learn my secrets lol.

posted July 17, 2014 10:46 PM            

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Originally posted by IV XXIV:
This this this. Sometimes I feel like I don't fit in places with people and a lot of the times I'll introvert it and try to figure out what's wrong with me. Unfortunately, I care too much what others think and feel towards me to be so apathetic towards their anger. I become anxious and walk on eggshells when I sense people are upset with me or simply don't like me. Terrible because of how intuitive I am - I'll pick up on the slightest mood change, facial expression, or tone of voice. Hate it so much sometimes.

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posted July 17, 2014 10:48 PM              

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Originally posted by yellowelevator:
This, so much. I've felt like an alien most of my life, and most people don't even know I feel that way. My intuition can flare up so fast sometimes that I too pick up on things so easily, such as tone of voice like you said and then before I know it it somehow causes an argument with the person, and they're basically telling me I'm crazy for noticing and I've 'got it all wrong.'

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Yeeeeeessss!

posted July 17, 2014 11:06 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Yeeeeeessss!

Exactly!
I'm extremely sensitive to the slightest thing with voice tone, a look, body language.

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posted July 17, 2014 11:17 PM              

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Originally posted by yellowelevator:
Ugh, it's insane isn't it? So hard to deal with at times, I feel like screaming lol

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You're Leo sun, Gemini moon also, right?

When they deny it I just think something like, "well then you better tune in your vocal chords"

posted July 18, 2014 12:01 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
You're Leo sun, Gemini moon also, right?

When they deny it I just think something like, "well then you better tune in your vocal chords"

If it's blatant like eye rolling I'm like, "I will break your nose if do that that again."
Not seriously of course but Ooooooo I get irritated inside. It's nuts though. I feel everything.
I wonder if it's because it's Pisces house. People always talk about how Pisces (moon especially) absorbs the energy around them.

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Yep, I am!

Haha, right?! I get so irritated by it too. It's like, how can I tell precisely what you're feeling and easily detect your changed tone of voice and body language, without even trying, but you can't even realize you're doing it? And then you try to be kind at first and ask if they're okay, or if you did something to provoke their sudden changes, and they throw a fit lol. It's super weird.

posted July 18, 2014 12:15 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I do. Conjunct mercury and Venus is in 12 but it only aspects Neptune

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