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Topic: Parenting Style Aspects
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PisceanDream
Newflake Posts: 13
From: Alexandria, VA, USA
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 17, 2014 09:45 PM
  
So I was wondering what natal aspects you guys would associate with certain parenting styles like strict parenting, lenient parenting, negligent parenting, controlling parents etc. I can assume a moon conjunct saturn or saturn in the 5th or 1st or 4th house could indicate a strict parent. Feel free to post about some aspects your parents have that could shed light to your responses.IP: Logged |
12muddy
Knowflake Posts: 1889
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posted July 17, 2014 10:06 PM
I wonder if a lot of uranus can point to erratic parenting style, or the "absent" parent, or maybe liberal n progressive (in the better scenario). My parents are both uranus dominant, with uranus aspecting their chart rulers. Angles are in mutables. Both were kinda "absent" throughout my childhood. Dad has a fair bit of saturn aspects, mom has next to none. He was the one that acted like a parent, and yes he was strict.
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PisceanDream
Newflake Posts: 13
From: Alexandria, VA, USA
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posted July 17, 2014 11:11 PM
I can definitely see a lot of Uranus suggesting erratic parenting in its negative manifestation. I think perhaps the absent parent is more in the Neptunian turf, especially if their absence is owing to alcoholism, negligence or mental instability. I wonder what aspects or placements hint towards positive, understanding, and friendly parenting...IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
Moderator Posts: 1717
From: PA, USA
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posted July 18, 2014 12:11 AM
For some quick insights, here are my personal familial experiences:Moon-Uranus in the mother's chart, especially the square, can lead to eccentric parenting or a sense of alienation from one's maternal instincts. In fact, she might not have a true maternal instinct at all. She may love her child very much but when it comes to doing the dishes, taking care of homework, etc. she is at a loss. Saturn in the 5th in Mom or Dad's chart can lead to feeling secretly insecure about bringing up the kids. This can lead to overly strict or overly gloomy parenting. Always worried about kids having illnesses or not 'being in line'. Stern or too authoritative. May be controlling to a point where the parent's own insecurity is pushed onto their children and the child becomes insecure without the constant authority of Mom and/or Dad. Not good. Pluto in the 5th can lead to shocking and transformative experiences in the home life and with children. These parents feel a keen sense of protectiveness over their children - they watch them like hawks. Same goes for Moon-Pluto parents. This over protectiveness may stem from difficult experiences such as loss of a first child or miscarriage. Or, these people feel that their children are an extension of them and very special, so they would do anything to protect them. They may end up being too smothering or probing by mistake. Their hearts are in the right place but sometimes the actions suppress their children's growth. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted July 18, 2014 06:40 AM
Cancer influenced people shelter their childrenIP: Logged |
lalalinda
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From: nevada
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posted July 18, 2014 06:44 AM
Hello PisceanDream! Welcome to LL  ------------------
"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
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sweet-scorpion
Moderator Posts: 1717
From: PA, USA
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posted July 18, 2014 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Cancer influenced people shelter their children
This is very true. My mother is one of these types and was always extremely sheltering. I can also see Scorpio/Moon-Pltuo types having this trait, too. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
Newflake Posts: 13
From: Alexandria, VA, USA
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 18, 2014 12:44 PM
Thank you, lalalinda! Sweet-scorpion, I really liked the Pluto in the 5th analysis. I hadn't thought of that. My mother has Sun in Scorpio and moon in Cancer and my father has Sun in Pisces moon in Scorpio. They are both loving and protective, very watery and emotional but not strict. My eldest brother has moon in Scorpio and my older brother has moon in Cancer. I noticed that my eldest and my father are protective in a controlling and intrusive way, constantly needing to know everything I'm up to, while my older brother and mother are protective in a more concerned, nurturing way. The under effects of pluto and the moon can be felt distinctly. I am a Gemini moon so I always felt like the odd one out and often feel bothered by their emotional expression and their nurturing styles. I always get called "cold-hearted" by them. My father has moon square pluto in a looser orb but he has been more emotionally smothering and protective but not in such a way that it was strict or restrictive. I consider myself very sheltered for sure. But I can't help but wonder, if they say that the moon is given by the mother, why is it that my brothers received water moons while I received the Gemini moon? Does this imply a shift in my mother's parenting style? She once said that she was extra protective over my eldest brother whom she gave the Scorpio moon and I figured it all made sense. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
Moderator Posts: 1717
From: PA, USA
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 18, 2014 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Thank you, lalalinda! Sweet-scorpion, I really liked the Pluto in the 5th analysis. I hadn't thought of that. My mother has Sun in Scorpio and moon in Cancer and my father has Sun in Pisces moon in Scorpio. They are both loving and protective, very watery and emotional but not strict. My eldest brother has moon in Scorpio and my older brother has moon in Cancer. I noticed that my eldest and my father are protective in a controlling and intrusive way, constantly needing to know everything I'm up to, while my older brother and mother are protective in a more concerned, nurturing way. The under effects of pluto and the moon can be felt distinctly. I am a Gemini moon so I always felt like the odd one out and often feel bothered by their emotional expression and their nurturing styles. I always get called "cold-hearted" by them. My father has moon square pluto in a looser orb but he has been more emotionally smothering and protective but not in such a way that it was strict or restrictive. I consider myself very sheltered for sure. But I can't help but wonder, if they say that the moon is given by the mother, why is it that my brothers received water moons while I received the Gemini moon? Does this imply a shift in my mother's parenting style? She once said that she was extra protective over my eldest brother whom she gave the Scorpio moon and I figured it all made sense.
You are welcome! Glad you enjoyed the analysis. I am a Virgo Moon and my grandmother has Moon conjunct Pluto. She is Sun in Scorpio too. She, like your father, was not very strict but could be intrusive and smothering out of love. I've also felt 'colder' than my immediate relatives; I am the only Air sign in the family and have a Mercurial Moon, so it can be hard to understand their extreme sentimentality. My Mom is a Cancer Sun and ASC and I also have this problem with her, she has Moon-Uranus and was not strict with me ever. IP: Logged |
starrynight
Knowflake Posts: 108
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posted July 18, 2014 01:24 PM
Some observations:Lots of Aquarius - personal freedom, prone to discussing stuff with a child intellectually instead of trying to force a child or influence their emotions. The child is perceived like "a little adult person". Someone you can reason with. If you can't--too bad. Example from a real person's natal chart:
Sun conj Mercury in Aquarius
Dispositor of (Virgo) Moon in Aquarius
Saturn in Libra trine Sun Another person is much more emotional, with lots of Leo placements, but still Aquarius Moon with no harsh aspects to anything
Saturn in Libra widely sextile Sun Same tendencies. quote:
Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Moon-Uranus in the mother's chart, especially the square, can lead to eccentric parenting or a sense of alienation from one's maternal instincts. In fact, she might not have a true maternal instinct at all.
Also this.IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
Newflake Posts: 13
From: Alexandria, VA, USA
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 18, 2014 01:35 PM
Interesting... Cancer moon is definitely more tolerable to me than the Scoprio moon. I am constantly holding my breath to avoid expressing annoyance towards my dad when I feel he is intruding far too much into my business. My brother however I have no problem lashing out on LOL. I can see how heavy Aquarius can influence a kind of intellectualizing of the child and even how the moon-uranus aspect can alienate the mother from her own maternal instincts. But what about hateful parents or parents that actively hate their children and abuse them? I am thinking perhaps moon conjunct nessus in the 8th or the 5th?Also do you think the moon sign one is born with is totally arbitrary or simply a matter of when one was born or do you believe that the moon sign is "given" by the mother according to her emotional state or parenting tendencies at the time of conception? Weird question I know...
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PisceanDream
Newflake Posts: 13
From: Alexandria, VA, USA
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 18, 2014 01:50 PM
Wow! I am a little creeped out... So I decided to check my mother's progressions at the time I was conceived, meaning the time my mother became pregnant with me. And her moon was in Gemini then! Maybe she really did "give" me my Gemini moon!IP: Logged |
starrynight
Knowflake Posts: 108
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posted July 18, 2014 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Also do you think the moon sign one is born with is totally arbitrary or simply a matter of when one was born or do you believe that the moon sign is "given" by the mother according to her emotional state or parenting tendencies at the time of conception? Weird question I know...
Interesting question.
I dunno, but I have this with my mother:
Moon trine Moon
her Moon square my Sun
We understand each other very well, but she always said I was insensitive. Another curious thing is that she said she really wanted me to be born during a certain time (hours-wise), and as a result I was born exactly when she wanted--and my Asc conj her Sun in the same sign. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
Moderator Posts: 1717
From: PA, USA
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 18, 2014 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Interesting... Cancer moon is definitely more tolerable to me than the Scoprio moon. I am constantly holding my breath to avoid expressing annoyance towards my dad when I feel he is intruding far too much into my business. My brother however I have no problem lashing out on LOL. I can see how heavy Aquarius can influence a kind of intellectualizing of the child and even how the moon-uranus aspect can alienate the mother from her own maternal instincts. But what about hateful parents or parents that actively hate their children and abuse them? I am thinking perhaps moon conjunct nessus in the 8th or the 5th?
Also do you think the moon sign one is born with is totally arbitrary or simply a matter of when one was born or do you believe that the moon sign is "given" by the mother according to her emotional state or parenting tendencies at the time of conception? Weird question I know...
I would definitely agree that the parent's Nessus could be on the child's Moon... the parent's Nessus could also be on the Child asteroid. Not a good combo. I can see either of these leading to abuse. Uranus can indicate erratic parenting and neglect. My mom wasn't always an attentive parent to me and she emotionally neglected me on different occasions. Having your natal Moon in the 8th or 12th could point to serious issues too. If the parent's Saturn is on the child's Moon in a square or conjunction the child might feel alienated or like the parent is cruel to him. I checked my mom's progressed chart around the time of my conception and she had Moon in Pisces. Tightest aspect in my natal is Moon-Neptune.  IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
Newflake Posts: 13
From: Alexandria, VA, USA
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 18, 2014 06:21 PM
Starrynight, there is something very beautiful about your mom wanting you to be born at a certain hour and when you were it made your asc conjunct her sun. You should see whether your mom has given your virgo moon somehow. I really want to research this further further. That's so astonishing that your mother had moon in Pisces while your strongest aspect is moon/neptune. I checked with my eldest brother who we all know is my mom's most loved and it turns out that during conception my moms venus was in 3 deg scorpio while my eldest's moon is in 0 degrees scorpio.
What aspects do you think contributes to awesome parents? Do you have any?IP: Logged |
Comatoes
Knowflake Posts: 176
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posted July 18, 2014 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream
What aspects do you think contributes to awesome parents? Do you have any?
It depends person to person, one person's idea of a awesome parent will be different than someone else's so aspects will vary. For me, an awesome parent is a parent who understands child psychology or is highly intuitive and know what their child needs even if they themselves don't approve. For example, a child who wants to play guitar but the parents want the child to play sports instead, a parent that is intuitive would let the child pick their own hobbies and life choices within reason, because they know the child needs these things for their soul growth. A intuitive and loving parent that doesn't smother -- probably well placed Moon, Fire signs, Water signs, Jupiter aspects would play into this. Also an awesome parent for me is a smart parent, a parent that is intelligent and know a lot of things, sorry I have a strong Mercury and Gemini Moon, I would die literally if I grew up in a house without books and learning opportunities. So a parent high in communication -- Mercury aspects, Uranus aspects, Gemini, Virgo, Libra, Aquarius, Sagittarius signs would make an awesome parent for me. Lastly an awesome parent is an imaginative parent, my own parents are not Water influenced, so sadly I missed out on this. I'm the only Water influenced person in my family, so I was alone in this for the most part. My dad does have Neptune in 10th so he can be a little imaginative but he is Earth and Fire for the most part, but he always helped me with all my science/art projects in elementary school. My mom cared zero for imagination, she doesn't understand it for the most part. But a parent that has some Water signs and a little Neptune is great. But the Neptune has to be well aspected into chart because Neptune not placed well can make bad parenting skills -- drunks, unattentive, too flighty, and not grounded in responsibilities. IP: Logged |
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