posted July 22, 2014 08:59 AM            

Here's my question.

Usually squares are seen as "challenges" or in some cases just plain bad.

I'm wondering though how do squares play out if they are aspected to the ruler. So here's an example.

Let's say you have an Aqua sun which makes someone innovative, etc and that sun squares to Uranus. Or a Sag sun squaring Jupiter? This aspect should be a "challenge" if the Sun were in a different sign like Cap sun squaring Uranus or something. But Aqua sun squaring Uranus, or Sag sun squaring Jupiter wouldn't this just make the persons sun traits more pronounced/dynamic?

posted July 22, 2014 09:33 AM            

My Asc is Virgo and square Neptune. I like to daydream alot and have a very excellent imagination. I am good at writing, when I am done daydreaming..

posted July 22, 2014 12:34 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Ok. As always I'm not 100% sure my topic title makes sense.

Here's my question.

Usually squares are seen as "challenges" or in some cases just plain bad.

I'm wondering though how do squares play out if they are aspected to the ruler. So here's an example.

Let's say you have an Aqua sun which makes someone innovative, etc and that sun squares to Uranus. Or a Sag sun squaring Jupiter? This aspect should be a "challenge" if the Sun were in a different sign like Cap sun squaring Uranus or something. But Aqua sun squaring Uranus, or Sag sun squaring Jupiter wouldn't this just make the persons sun traits more pronounced/dynamic?

Does that make sense? (My merc isn't even afflicted. :P.... I don't think! )

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posted July 22, 2014 12:47 PM            

Once in a while I do get those flashes of insight particular to Mercury-Uranus aspects, and back when I was in school, this could bring me instant, tangible results like "A+! You just blew the bell curve!" or "Come work in the Writing Center."

But what I struggle with is consistency, and I've been criticized many times for seeming brilliant occasionally and yet, more often, stale and commonplace. One teacher told me she penalized me for submitting a paper with quality that fluctuated too much, from highly insightful to bland..."as if you just got too lazy to think or refuse to use your talents." So she marked me below others who were consistently mediocre. She told me that.

It matches comments I've gotten from friends, family, coworkers...all boiling down to, "Your output is too erratic."

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posted July 22, 2014 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I am a little bit confused - do you mean to the ruler of the chart, which is the planet that rules the ASC?

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No I mean when a planet square the ruler(?) of that planet.
(Actually I'm thinking maybe I might mean "depositor" instead of "ruler"?)

I gave the example above. Sun in Aqua squaring with Uranus, or Sun in Sag squaring Jupiter. Moon in Scorpio squaring Pluto, etc.

Does this make the square more bad/challenging or does it make a difficult aspect (sq/opp) less challenging? More dynamic? More Sag or Aqua like, etc.

posted July 22, 2014 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I'm inclined to think it offers higher highs and lower lows. Yes I have a vivid imagination but yes I get lost in it.

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Really very interesting insight! Thank you so much for sharing.

I can see the last part higher highs and lower lows fitting.

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Originally posted by charlie:

I guess my "challenges" would be to NOT try and find everyone's most dirty little secret and force them to talk about it and stop daydreaming.

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I don't have any dirty little secrets! I promise!
Thank you for your insight.

posted July 22, 2014 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
No I mean when a planet square the ruler(?) of that planet.
(Actually I'm thinking maybe I might mean "depositor" instead of "ruler"?)

I gave the example above. Sun in Aqua squaring with Uranus, or Sun in Sag squaring Jupiter. Moon in Scorpio squaring Pluto, etc.

Does this make the square more bad/challenging or does it make a difficult aspect (sq/opp) less challenging? More dynamic? More Sag or Aqua like, etc.

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Oh, OK. Sorry! I understand now. I totally get you. I think you were meaning to say dispositor, as Sun in Aquarius is disposited by Uranus.

We'll use Aqua Sun sq. Uranus for my hypothetical ramblings here. In my opinion, I feel that such an aspect may indicate an imbalanced expression of the traits of this sign/planet. You may try to harness your difficult personality traits, but find them to be impossible to control. You're need for independence, a strong sense of 'self' that stands out uniquely in your environment, etc. will all be heightened, almost putting you in 'crisis mode' to prove yourself. This will be affected by transits and progressions to both planets, of course.

posted July 23, 2014 02:45 AM            

So again, much more high highs and low lows. T

Like a Sag sun sq Jupiter might be too full on "fun", too outgoing maybe without realizing it's out of control?

Thank you. Now, I'm going to have to think on how this might play out in the easy aspects and then in the houses! OMG, my head hurts!

posted July 23, 2014 02:47 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Ok, to add: my final dispositor is also Mercury. So my Chart ruler is also my overall ruler.

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Ah right. I remember learning about the final depositor and I don't have one! Boo!