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posted July 23, 2014 04:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was looking over my chart today. And I have my Rising in Aquarius quincunx both my Venus making a sextile with my Vertex.

I know my exact approximate time so I know everything is accurate. Question is, does this aspect mean anything?

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posted July 23, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would watch for transits that conjunct to your AC for a good time to meet soulmates and important love relationships.

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I would watch for transits that conjunct to your AC for a good time to meet soulmates and important love relationships.

That's interesting. My Venus is returning on Saturday-Sunday. So it'll quincunx my ASC again. Also there's a new moon conjuncting my Sun and Jupiter in the 7th house on Saturday as well. Sunday is also my bday.

I was just curious if I have an official YOD configuration. I DO feel very intense whenever I see a planet in Aquarius though

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posted July 23, 2014 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
That's interesting. My Venus is returning on Saturday-Sunday. So it'll quincunx my ASC again. Also there's a new moon conjuncting my Sun and Jupiter in the 7th house on Saturday as well. Sunday is also my bday.

I was just curious if I have an official YOD configuration. I DO feel very intense whenever I see a planet in Aquarius though


I would say you have a YOD yes which is activated by transit when something conjuncts your AC . I imagine since the YOD involves an angle that transits to the AC activating the YOD are very powerful.

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I would say you have a YOD yes which is activated by transit when something conjuncts your AC . I imagine since the YOD involves an angle that transits to the AC activating the YOD are very powerful.




Lol so I guess when Pluto enters Aquarius I'm in deep trouble haha

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I would say you have a YOD yes which is activated by transit when something conjuncts your AC . I imagine since the YOD involves an angle that transits to the AC activating the YOD are very powerful.


How does vertex play a role in this? I know Venus quincunx ascendant has an affect on my artistic side (I've also been called a heartbreaker by the ladies) but how does vertex affect this? Will someone that conjuncts my vertex activate the yod?

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posted July 23, 2014 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by amelia28:
[b] I would say you have a YOD yes which is activated by transit when something conjuncts your AC . I imagine since the YOD involves an angle that transits to the AC activating the YOD are very powerful.




Lol so I guess when Pluto enters Aquarius I'm in deep trouble haha[/B][/QUOTE]

LOL hahhaha no........pluto at the apex forming a YOD with venus and vertex would attract a relationship that will transform you and make you feel from the depths of your soul.

If you think falling in love is trouble then yes you are in deep trouble LOL

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posted July 23, 2014 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
How does vertex play a role in this? I know Venus quincunx ascendant has an affect on my artistic side (I've also been called a heartbreaker by the ladies) but how does vertex affect this? Will someone that conjuncts my vertex activate the yod?


If transit pluto conjuncts your AC and you meet a girl that conjuncts your vertex then that means your YOD will be fully activated and that is going to be quite an intense relationship; fireworks.

Some people would tell you that transits would have to conjunct both your AC and vertex for this to be truly a YOD but I question this.

I personally have a Yod involving pholus at the apex and ixion conjunct hygeia in one leg and mercury conjunct MC in the other and this YOD played a serious role in my life and when saturn hit the leg there were consequences and by next year my uranus will hit the apex; I am hoping this is a turning point from the consequences suffered that I am still feeling the sting from providing me with a fresh start were I can learn from my mistakes and start truly over.

I did not believe in yods involving so many asteroids or centaurs but I know now that they can be very significant. Hence I am not discarding the vertex or AC but you would have to see this for yourself.

My instinct is that if a transit conjuncts your AC it will activate the YOD. Odds are that there is a asteroid or centaur that conjuncts your Vertex and your AC and you just haven't come across it yet and then I would say you don't even need a transit to activate the Yod.

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LOL hahhaha no........pluto at the apex forming a YOD with venus and vertex would attract a relationship that will transform you and make you feel from the depths of your soul.

If you think falling in love is trouble then yes you are in deep trouble LOL


Interesting. I've met someone with their mars/Venus exact on my vertex. Instant attraction. My mars trined her Venus. My mars opposed her moon as well. Haven't spoken to her in years until I RANDOMLY found her again on a social media website

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When your Vertex is contacted by another person’s planet or point, a fated relationship is indicated. In my article which looked at common Synastry Aspects in the charts of married couples, I noticed the Vertex and/or Anti-Vertex of at least one of the partners was often activated. Strong Vertex and Anti-Vertex aspects in the Composite chart also indicate a fated union. Indeed, Composite Charts featuring a Vertex/Descendant conjunction are common among married, fated, “meant-to-be” relationships.

What is the difference between the Vertex and Anti-Vertex? The Vertex is considered a “second Ascendant,” while the Anti-Vertex is considered a “second Descendant.” As such, Vertex connections in synastry signify a highly personal connection. Some astrologers have said that the Anti-Vertex is less significant than the Vertex, but based on personal experience, as well as my observations of other synastry charts, I disagree. Perhaps these astrologers the Vertex is stronger in synastry because it is always found in someone’s 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, or 9th houses, which are the houses that represent our relationships with “others.” Having someone else’s planets in these houses (especially the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses), conjunct the Vertex or not, indicate a high level of compatibility and intimacy. The Anti-Vertex, on the other hand, is located in the opposite house of the Vertex (the 11th, 12th, 1st, 2nd, or 3rd houses), which relate to personal concerns and our private worlds. As such, if conjunctions to the Anti-Vertex occur in synastry, this person may become a significant part of your “inner world.” As someone who has had conjunctions to both my Vertex and Anti-Vertex in synastry, I can tell you the “pull” is equally strong in both cases.

The Vertex and anti-Vertex show us who we are unconsciously attracted to. When Vertex and Anti-Vertex aspects show up in synastry or composite, the two people are irresistibly attracted to one another. The Vertex owner feels the planet/point person is the “man/woman of their dreams.” You usually meet each other unexpectedly and ‘out of the blue.” It is fate that brings the two of you together, and you immediately feel a strong connection when you first meet. The feeling that the other person will change your life can be quite strong. You feel for this person in a way you’ve never felt before.

You will meet this person when your Vertex/Anti-Vertex is contacted by a transiting planet. I’ve also found that strong Vertex/Anti-Vertex connections in the Solar Return indicate the year in which you will meet that special someone.

For example, the year I met a man with whom I have a Vertex-Venus aspect in synastry, my Solar Return chart showed a Vertex-North Node conjunction in the 5th house of love and romance. In addition, the day I met him, transiting Mars was conjunct my natal Venus exactly.

Synastry Aspects with the Vertex

Sun- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Sun person’s ego expression and core-being encapsulates the Vertex person’s idea of the perfect mate. An instant friendship is indicated. There is a feeling of destiny between the two of you, and you feel that you can go the distance together.

Moon- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This is an indication of an emotional, supportive, and nurturing connection. The Vertex person is unconsciously attracted to the Moon person’s emotional nature. There is a natural attraction to one another; you feel instantly safe and comfortable with one another. In fact, it can be so comfortable and wonderful, that it is difficult to be without one another!

Mercury- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: A strong intellectual and mental link exists when someone’s Mercury is conjunct or opposite another person’s Vertex. The two of you feel instinctively comfortable talking with one another. Unless there are strong romantic links in the rest of the synastry, this combination can feel like a brotherly-sisterly connection. I have this with a close friend of mine. I love talking to him, and I’m so attracted to his mind.

Venus- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This is a prime indicator of a fated, romantic link that will change your life forever. The feelings of love and romance are incredibly strong. The Vertex person finds the Venus person beautiful, charming, and the “man/woman of their dreams.” The love is so strong that separating from one another is incredibly difficult.

Mars- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This indicates a highly sexual link. The sexual charisma and assertiveness of the Mars person is highly attractive to the Vertex person. Sex is transformative and intense; you can’t get enough of one another!

Jupiter- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This connection indicates a benevolent union, full of generosity, good will, and indulgence! The two of you (especially the Vertex person) feel good about yourselves when you are together. The Jupiter can improve your career life and help you achieve your ambitions.

Saturn- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Saturn person acts as a stabilizing force in the Vertex person’s life. The Saturn person may be somewhat of a “fatherly” type to the Vertex person, offering practical advice and guidance. Saturn represents “karma,” while the Vertex represents “fate,” so the relationship is likely to have a highly significant effect on the both of them. The feeling of responsibility and commitment to the Saturn person is high, and it will be hard for the couple to separate because of this.

Uranus- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Uranus person acts as a revolutionizing, destabilizing force in the Vertex person’s life. The attraction is high, as is the sense of excitement when the two of them get together. Uranus opens the Vertex person’s mind to a variety of possibilities. The area in which the Uranus person revolutionalizes the Vertex person is represented by the house in which the conjunction resides.

Neptune- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Vertex person is magically drawn to the Neptune person. The Vertex person easily “loses” herself in the Neptune person, and feels as though the Neptune person fulfills their innermost dreams and fantasies of the perfect mate. This is a highly spiritual, magnetic, and dreamy relationship.

Pluto- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Pluto person has a transformative effect on the Vertex person. The two of you were destined to meet, indeed. This is an opportunity for the Vertex person’s personal growth, which will be achieved by a highly intense and sexual relationship with the Pluto person. Check which house the conjunction is in to get more details as to what kind of transformation will take place.

Node- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This is one of the prime indicators of marriage in synastry. The Vertex person has a powerful effect on the Node person’s personality, helping them develop the qualities they need to develop in this life. The two of you were fated to meet, and were destined to learn a lot from one another. An instant sense of familiarity is indicated, since the South Node is being aspected by the other person’s Vertex or Anti-Vertex, as well. The two of you have certainly met before, and have unfinished business to take care of. The attraction is magnetic, powerful, and will transform the both of you forever. Check the house position the conjunction resides in order to get a better idea of how these energies will manifest in each person’s life.

For example, the love of my life’s North Node is conjunct my Vertex in the 8th house in Cancer. Our relationship was highly intimate, transformative, and sexually intense (8th house), as well as nurturing, loving, and caring. I greatly helped him develop sexually, as well as emotionally, and he had a similar effect on me. I will never, ever forget him, and he is still hanging on to our relationship, even though we broke up a long time ago.

Ascendant-Vertex: When someone’s Vertex is conjunct your Ascendant, your Vertex is conjunct their Ascendant. This is an indicator of an intense attraction. The two of you may easily stay together for the rest of your lives because of the intense attachment you feel for one another. The physical attraction is off the charts, and the feeling of attraction is instant. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have this aspect.

Descendant-Vertex: The two of you are inexplicably drawn to one another. A feeling of fatedness permeates your relationship. This is an excellent indicator of marriage or, at least, a very significant relationship, which will transform both person’s concepts of love and relationships forever.

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posted July 23, 2014 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Interesting. I've met someone with their mars/Venus exact on my vertex. Instant attraction. My mars trined her Venus. My mars opposed her moon as well. Haven't spoken to her in years until I RANDOMLY found her again on a social media website


I know how that feels and I agree, very strong attraction. With those aspects I am confident she is attracted as well, odds are.

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Originally posted by amelia28:
If transit pluto conjuncts your AC and you meet a girl that conjuncts your vertex then that means your YOD will be fully activated and that is going to be quite an intense relationship; fireworks.

Some people would tell you that transits would have to conjunct both your AC and vertex for this to be truly a YOD but I question this.

Great info! Thanks. This explains a lot!!

I personally have a Yod involving pholus at the apex and incux conjunct hygeia in one leg and mercury conjunct MC in the other and this YOD played a serious role in my life and when saturn hit the leg there were consequences and by next year my uranus will hit the apex; I am hoping this is a turning point from the consequences suffered that I am stil feeling the sting from providing me with a fresh start were I can learn from my mistakes a start truly over.

I did not believe in yods involving so many asteroids or centaurs but I know now that they can be very significant. Hence I am not discarding the vertex or AC but you would have to see this for yourself.

My instinct is that if a transit conjuncts your AC it will activate the YOD. Odds are that there is asteroid or centaur that conjuncts your Vertex and your AC you just having come across it yet and then I would say you don't even need a transit to activate the Yod.


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I know how that feels and I agree, very strong attraction. With those aspects I am confident she is attracted as well, odds are.

Yup. And her mars/venus also both squared my BML. Lol honestly I've become so intrigued with asteroids and energetic placements that I don't even care about the personal planets anymore lol

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posted July 23, 2014 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Yup. And her mars/venus also both squared my BML. Lol honestly I've become so intrigued with asteroids and energetic placements that I don't even care about the personal planets anymore lol

Fire! Have you guys already played?? haha

Are you going to go for it?

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Fire! Have you guys already played?? haha

Are you going to go for it?


Lol no. I have more than enough time lol

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posted July 23, 2014 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lol no. I have more than enough time lol

awwwwwwwwww you are right, savour every moment and take your time. Good luck!
Excuse my 5th in aries.

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posted July 23, 2014 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yup. And her mars/venus also both squared my BML. Lol honestly I've become so intrigued with asteroids and energetic placements that I don't even care about the personal planets anymore lol

I agree; energetic placements like the NN, vertex, BML fascinate me more than personal planets, In addition I am super fascinated with Yods, intercepted signs/cusps/planets and centaurs (part human, part animal) like chiron or pholus (centaurs tend to have weird orbit patterns).

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I agree; energetic placements like the NN, vertex, BML fascinate me more than personal planets, In addition I am super fascinated with Yods, intercepted signs/cusps/planets and centaurs (part human, part animal) like chiron or pholus (centaurs tend to have weird orbit patterns).


Me too. Do you believe planetary patterns are more important Thant people make it to be? Grand trines, crosses, and Yods seem to really mean something

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posted July 23, 2014 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Me too. Do you believe planetary patterns are more important Thant people make it to be? Grand trines, crosses, and Yods seem to really mean something

I do. I have had people trine my Taurus mars and square my Pisces moon and other attraction synastry points, but the asteroids and energy placements are the ones that seal the deal.

I feel more intensity and energy from people hitting my Leo vertex, Pisces NN, Juno in Virgo, and Virgo BML (29 degrees lololol) than my planetary signs. It goes from 'hey you are pretty cute' to 'wow I must have you!'

Every single relationship I was in that was long-term had pretty much the same patterns in synastry and composite charts.

P.S. When pluto hits Aquarius it will conjunct my Venus. So if you are screwed then I am dead! lol.

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I do. I have had people trine my Taurus mars and square my Pisces moon and other attraction synastry points, but the asteroids and energy placements are the ones that seal the deal.

I feel more intensity and energy from people hitting my Leo vertex, Pisces NN, Juno in Virgo, and Virgo BML (29 degrees lololol) than my planetary signs. It goes from 'hey you are pretty cute' to 'wow I must have you!'

Every single relationship I was in that was long-term had pretty much the same patterns in synastry and composite charts.

P.S. When pluto hits Aquarius it will conjunct my Venus. So if you are screwed then I am dead! lol.


I believe the more mature astrologists will focus on these energy points more because they know how rare they are. But isn't the NN a generational thing?

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I do. I have had people trine my Taurus mars and square my Pisces moon and other attraction synastry points, but the asteroids and energy placements are the ones that seal the deal.

I feel more intensity and energy from people hitting my Leo vertex, Pisces NN, Juno in Virgo, and Virgo BML (29 degrees lololol) than my planetary signs. It goes from 'hey you are pretty cute' to 'wow I must have you!'

Every single relationship I was in that was long-term had pretty much the same patterns in synastry and composite charts.

P.S. When pluto hits Aquarius it will conjunct my Venus. So if you are screwed then I am dead! lol.


And how can find Juno? Why is it significant?

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posted July 23, 2014 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
I believe the more mature astrologists will focus on these energy points more because they know how rare they are. But isn't the NN a generational thing?

NN- definitely not a generational thing. The aspects, sign, and house placement have a different meaning for everyone. Think about it: would everyone have the same life lessons and journey to take?

What is your NN if you don't mind me asking?

Find Juno: do have have an astrodienst account? If not, make one. Put in your natal info, and then when you to the chart selection just highlight Juno.

Juno is supposed to represent what our spouse will be like or how we act in relationships depending on our gender. There are many good threads in here, I would use the search button b/c I am far from a 'mature' astrologer (and as a 1st house stellium far from a mature person )

For example: I have Juno in Virgo 8th, opp Moon, sextile Venus, trine Saturn, trine Uranus, trine ASC.

I am attracted to people that have intensity and depth, high sex drive (thats what is written so don't judge me! lol), help transform both of us. while constructive, hard worker, and analytical to help me in a good way. Moon indicates I may have emotional differences or am attracted to this, Venus is a charming partner with artistic abilities or love of romance. Saturn is possibly older than me partner, solid, practical, dependable, and makes me want to commit long-term. Uranus fits my Aqua Sun & Venus, as I need an independent, unique, intelligent partner that probably comes from a different background from me.

Juno-ASC: wife material??? Many try to claim but not many can conquer me. hahahha.

So hopefully this kind of explains it. There are many exceptionally talented astrologists on here. I am not one them.

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NN- definitely not a generational thing. The aspects, sign, and house placement have a different meaning for everyone. Think about it: would everyone have the same life lessons and journey to take?

What is your NN if you don't mind me asking?

Find Juno: do have have an astrodienst account? If not, make one. Put in your natal info, and then when you to the chart selection just highlight Juno.

Juno is supposed to represent what our spouse will be like or how we act in relationships depending on our gender. There are many good threads in here, I would use the search button b/c I am far from a 'mature' astrologer (and as a 1st house stellium far from a mature person )

For example: I have Juno in Virgo 8th, opp Moon, sextile Venus, trine Saturn, trine Uranus, trine ASC.

I am attracted to people that have intensity and depth, high sex drive (thats what is written so don't judge me! lol), help transform both of us. while constructive, hard worker, and analytical to help me in a good way. Moon indicates I may have emotional differences or am attracted to this, Venus is a charming partner with artistic abilities or love of romance. Saturn is possibly older than me partner, solid, practical, dependable, and makes me want to commit long-term. Uranus fits my Aqua Sun & Venus, as I need an independent, unique, intelligent partner that probably comes from a different background from me.

Juno-ASC: wife material??? Many try to claim but not many can conquer me. hahahha.

So hopefully this kind of explains it. There are many exceptionally talented astrologists on here. I am not one them.


Ok just looked it up. It says my "Mean Node" is in Aquarius! Right on my Ascendant! And my Juno is in Scorpio opposing my mars in Taurus. That explains why I'm attracted to moon in Scorpio girls. Plus mars opposite moon is a very binding aspect in synastry anyway..

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Go East, Young Man!

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Go East, Young Man!

Huh? Lol

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