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starrynight
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posted July 23, 2014 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Been thinking about it recently.
You know this type of people: they look like they don't even know what all that brouhaha is about. Sex? What sex? Who cares. Cold as ice. Can't be seduced because they just don't react.
The kind of guy who'll see a topless girl and politely ask her if she's okay running around without a scarf in such a cool weather. The kind of girl who always looks like either a Catholic schoolgirl or a teacher from the same school depending on her age.

Yet some of those people are absolute spitfires in the bedroom behind the closed doors.

Soooo... what kind of placements could produce such a combo?

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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted July 23, 2014 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol that's soooo me

At least, that's what I been told. Mars and the 8th house usually have something to do with sex. I have Mars in Libra in the 5th, but it is opposed by Saturn, the ruler of my 8th house (Capricorn). I guess this makes me look like I don't know anything about sex. I keep that image for a reason. The only time I ever show my true sexual nature is when I'm alone with the guy I like and I can see that he's getting turned on by me. My Eros is also in the 12th house, so this really makes a lot of sense.

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PixieJane
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posted July 23, 2014 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For what it's worth, I think some psychology is also involved here. People from sexually repressed backgrounds tend to be "spitfires" in secret, and lots of fundies who go on about the evils of sex seem to be the most controlled by their forbidden desires, though whether that's because all the harping on it just makes them think on it a lot more and fight it (and what you resist persists) or whether because they feel so helpless before their feelings so that they can't help but rail against it (and trying to hide their weakness by pretending to be the opposite in public) isn't something I can say (at least not generally speaking). Of course if society in general is repressive then even those comfortable in their own sexuality are going to be motivated to cover it up somewhat as well.

One girl told me about going to Catholic school. Holy...that girl had far more sexual experience by the time she was 13 then I did at 20 (though at least it was all with other kids...Catholic school boys and girls), including S&M with both genders. And she made it sound like it was pretty common, certainly more so than the public school I went to which I thought was crazy with it (but would've been vanilla by the standards of those Catholic school boys and girls).

And I understand that even at a strip club that men can become distracted from the strippers if a woman not there to strip is accidentally exposed and she shows embarrassment because the vulnerability and "forbidden fruit" aspect calls out to many men more so that a woman who shows too much thigh by accident will create more desire than a nude woman on stage dancing boldly.

And clothes can be very sexy, not just for the fantasy aspect (for which sex shops will often sell various costumes and uniforms catering to fetishes) but also the attitude or what it suggests about the person. And not just clothes, I understand some men are drawn to women who smoke because her smoking comes off to him as a "bad girl attitude willing to get nasty and not care what people think" (and can turn other men off for the same reason). Even skin color and ethnicity can have an affect (because of preconceived concepts), and it's often not entirely conscious, it's more in the mind that ties into fantasies.

One last thing...nudity doesn't equal eroticism. If it did then the nude beaches and resorts along with Wiccans in skyclad (nude) rituals would be orgies, but they're not. I've saunaed naked with both men and women and at least for me I felt nothing erotic in doing so and I'm not aware that any of the others did either. It's all in context, of course, and I'm sure a nude lap dancer would get many men who were casual about nudity otherwise very excited, and a man obviously in the grips of passion or having some naughty fun inspiring more lust in women than a nude man meditating.

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MagnumJoe
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posted July 23, 2014 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is EXACTLY what i do lol.

I think it's my Cap sun, and Libra mars.

Libra mars doesn't jump onto sex or get turned on easily. It has to come mentally through flirting and smooth talk, you know?

Also Libra mars like to tease a lot, so it won't show it is turned on: NEVER And i will play innocent till the last minute, till the other person is dying for it

Plus, I think, my Scorpio venus would make don't wanna show anything to stay in control until i am on top of things

And Cap sun makes everything controlled anyway...

I am fire dominant, but this is how things go with me...

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fireopal09
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posted July 23, 2014 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I worked in breast taverns for quite a few years as a hostess. My last few years were spent working in a high end club. There were countless nights that my tip jar rivaled the performers' take for the night. I think it was the fact the clients could not BUY me. I also noticed the dancers who wore floor length evening gowns when working the floor actually were in higher demand for visiting clients tables between sets.

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NeptunianSag
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posted July 23, 2014 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Scorpio Eros and psyche, I think it takes a lot or someone who's different to get me going. It's either I'm all in it or totally cold feeling/not feeling anything (which is most of the time) which makes it seem I'm not interested at all, but I am at times, Its just not on the surface.

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Comatoes
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posted July 24, 2014 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We need more people in the World like this...

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Odette
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posted July 24, 2014 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm more like "Ice under fire"... lol My Sun is Aries and Mars Capricorn.
I seem fiery - but I can actually be very cold.

I guess the opposite - Capricorn Sun (or AC) with Aries Mars.. would fit your description.

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Sex? What sex? Who cares. Cold as ice. Can't be seduced because they just don't react.

This behaviour reminds me of Capricorn Mars (in men and women) - including myself. But the thing is Capricorn Mars truly *is* like this. They are not faking anything.
They can be disinterested.

Scorpio Mars can sometimes fake surface coolness, hiding an erupting volcano.

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jjj
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posted July 24, 2014 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have scorpio mars (and venus as well) and virgo lilith and Im a bit like that.

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sweet-scorpion
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posted July 24, 2014 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First thing that came to mind was Venus retrograde, especially in Scorpio, along with Pluto in the 12th.

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Ellynlvx
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posted July 24, 2014 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There must be a Librarian Aspect hiding out somewhere...

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BellaFenice
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posted July 24, 2014 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know someone exactly like that:

-Cap stellium
-Cap ASC
-Venus square Mars
-went to catholic school 8 years but no longer religious; late bloomer
-Mars trine Saturn is what people see on the surface but get to know her better you get to experience the square Pluto
-Venus in Aqua: needs mental stimulation before getting physical
-Virgo Lilith


Interesting friend.

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