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NYCdodger
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posted July 25, 2014 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know Quincunx is a very powerful and rare aspect. It's said to be a combo of the opposition and the trine aspects. And it give a 6th and 8th house feel to the aspect.

So how would the Ascendant Quincunx the Venus affect the natal chart person?

I can't info anywhere else, at least not anything in detail. Only the conjunction and opposition gets talked about

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KarkaQueen
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posted July 25, 2014 06:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus inconjunct Ascendant exact too. I'll try to comment on this in the next post..

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posted July 25, 2014 06:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The energy of Venus is in a quincunx or inconjunct aspect to your Ascendant, which can be the core of your tendency to overcompensate in order to gain acceptance. You may try too hard to please, and may even alienate those who would be supportive if you carry this behavior to the extreme. Gaining a sense of positive self-esteem is not always easy, but it does have an easy beginning. Ask yourself whether you would value or accept certain behaviors or attitudes if they were not "important" to achieve recognition by someone you deem valuable or important. Your real value lies not in what others think of you, but in how you feel about yourself. The adjustments you need to make may be just as simple as determining what you need and want from your life. But when you start to think about it, you realize that this is not as easy as it sounds - after all, what would somebody else think? Oops... there's that trap!

^ This is how it's supposed to manifest..

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posted July 25, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
The energy of Venus is in a quincunx or inconjunct aspect to your Ascendant, which can be the core of your tendency to overcompensate in order to gain acceptance. You may try too hard to please, and may even alienate those who would be supportive if you carry this behavior to the extreme. Gaining a sense of positive self-esteem is not always easy, but it does have an easy beginning. Ask yourself whether you would value or accept certain behaviors or attitudes if they were not "important" to achieve recognition by someone you deem valuable or important. Your real value lies not in what others think of you, but in how you feel about yourself. The adjustments you need to make may be just as simple as determining what you need and want from your life. But when you start to think about it, you realize that this is not as easy as it sounds - after all, what would somebody else think? Oops... there's that trap!

^ This is how it's supposed to manifest..


I've read that one description and that was it. I was actually interested in how it would affect your artistic expression and physical features. I have a YOD with Venus and Vertex at the base and my Ascendant at the apex

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posted July 25, 2014 06:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune-AC, Venus inconjunct AC, Sun opposite AC, Venus inconjunct Neptune, Neptune opposite Sun so I can't say if that single aspect effects my artistic expression. My Venus is also in the 5th house.

I'm a good drawer, fondness for poetry and beautiful writing, good writer, supple imagination..

As for my appearance.. I have been told by many that I have very soft and delicate/small features.. I'm very insecure though.

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posted July 25, 2014 06:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need relationships to feel alive, but often you shun them because you do not feel that you are worthy enough to share yourself with others. You tend to think so little of yourself that you will only enter relationships where you serve others unstintingly, without asking anything in return. This bothers you because you know that you have real needs and you keep hoping that those you serve will notice them spontaneously. When they don’t, you withdraw even more and the pattern becomes reinforced. You must learn to stick up for yourself. You will be surprised at how relieved your beloved will be when you put aside your fawning ways for a while

^ thats another one

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posted July 25, 2014 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
You need relationships to feel alive, but often you shun them because you do not feel that you are worthy enough to share yourself with others. You tend to think so little of yourself that you will only enter relationships where you serve others unstintingly, without asking anything in return. This bothers you because you know that you have real needs and you keep hoping that those you serve will notice them spontaneously. When they don’t, you withdraw even more and the pattern becomes reinforced. You must learn to stick up for yourself. You will be surprised at how relieved your beloved will be when you put aside your fawning ways for a while

^ thats another one



I guess I can relate to this. At least I used to

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posted July 26, 2014 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello NYCdodger... if you were to 'relocate' to a new geographic region, the degree of your Rising Sign and the Vertex could change?...

In my own natal chart I have the Venus quincunx (inconjunct) Ascendant. I've been wracking my brains on 'where' to relocate right now... I am boggled! Glad you posted the question.

Astrologer Shelly Rollinson [notes I found, Oct 2009, oocities] relates the following:
the "inconjunct" aspect is "an emotional adjustment that must be made in areas ruled by the planets, signs, and houses involved. These {emotional adjustments} must be made before you can realize your 'feelings'..."
Venus Inconjunct Ascendant: "Care is needed in all business relationships. There is strain in the expression of your 'feelings.'"

Astrologer Betty Lunsted wrote this:
QUINCUNX. This aspect indicates strain, and has been considered the classic health aspect. Two ideas (or two life activities) are straining against each other, but not in as difficult an angle as that of the square or opposition. Because the tension is not clearly visible, two facets of the personality may conflict, while the owner does nothing to bring them together. Time and energy may be wasted, and the body rebels. The energy can be released as it is understood and allowed to function in some kind of perspective.
Betty Lunstead (c1980) Astrological Insights Into Personality, Ibis Press 2004. p. 106.

Karka!

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posted July 28, 2014 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
Hello NYCdodger... if you were to 'relocate' to a new geographic region, the degree of your Rising Sign and the Vertex could change?...

In my own natal chart I have the Venus quincunx (inconjunct) Ascendant. I've been wracking my brains on 'where' to relocate right now... I am boggled! Glad you posted the question.

Astrologer Shelly Rollinson [notes I found, Oct 2009, oocities] relates the following:
the "inconjunct" aspect is "an [b]emotional adjustment
that must be made in areas ruled by the planets, signs, and houses involved. These {emotional adjustments} must be made before you can realize your 'feelings'..."
Venus Inconjunct Ascendant: "Care is needed in all business relationships. There is strain in the expression of your 'feelings.'"

Astrologer Betty Lunsted wrote this:
QUINCUNX. This aspect indicates strain, and has been considered the classic health aspect. Two ideas (or two life activities) are straining against each other, but not in as difficult an angle as that of the square or opposition. Because the tension is not clearly visible, two facets of the personality may conflict, while the owner does nothing to bring them together. Time and energy may be wasted, and the body rebels. The energy can be released as it is understood and allowed to function in some kind of perspective.
Betty Lunstead (c1980) Astrological Insights Into Personality, Ibis Press 2004. p. 106.

Karka! [/B]


Always saw the Quincunx as a super charged opposition. It's all out war but it brings out amazing results when integrated

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posted July 28, 2014 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this: Moon conjunct Venus quincunx Uranus conjunct ascendant.

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posted July 28, 2014 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I have this: Moon conjunct Venus quincunx Uranus conjunct ascendant.

Any YODS?

What do you think a Yod to the ascendant with Venus and vertex at the base is like?
(Time and location is accurate)

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posted July 28, 2014 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Any YODS?

What do you think a Yod to the ascendant with Venus and vertex at the base is like?
(Time and location is accurate)


Possibly. I think that Jupiter is onconjunct my ascendant, from the other side (Aries).

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posted July 29, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does Venus quincunx ASC affect your creative and artistic abilities??

Can't find real info anywhere

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posted August 12, 2018 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kintukewun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there! I have this placement. From my experience, I believe is related with a discrepancy between the way one show itself to others about relationships and affections and how the native does really feel about those same things.

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posted August 12, 2018 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KarkaQueen,

You need to credit the author, or at least the website you are quoting. Also include it in quotes unless it is your own writing.

I know copy and paste is easy, but we still need to give credit to the original author, just as when writing papers in school.

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posted August 16, 2018 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Kannon said.

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posted August 26, 2018 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
You need relationships to feel alive, but often you shun them because you do not feel that you are worthy enough to share yourself with others. You tend to think so little of yourself that you will only enter relationships where you serve others unstintingly, without asking anything in return. This bothers you because you know that you have real needs and you keep hoping that those you serve will notice them spontaneously. When they don’t, you withdraw even more and the pattern becomes reinforced. You must learn to stick up for yourself. You will be surprised at how relieved your beloved will be when you put aside your fawning ways for a while

^ thats another one


This is interesting to me. I have had self-esteem problems, but I do stick up for myself, and what it really comes down to is whether or not someone is worthy of being in MY life. Not the other way around. I've naturally been that way, and haven't been one to hop into relationships to feel good about myself. I've also run away from cheaters, because I had no interest in them, and have no respect for that sort of thing. I wasn't going to participate in their cheating, and disrespecting their partner.

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posted August 27, 2018 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How close? I bet it would make the person very attractive and maybe in a quirky way. Is it you, NYC?

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posted September 02, 2018 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted September 02, 2018 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another layer in astrology I'm yet to delve into! And I just now discovered I have not only one but 2 Yods in my chart! How exciting!

Also I'm trying to grasp how an Inconjunction between Moon and Pluto does manifest, this is an aspect a friend has, and it may explain some inconsistinciees in his emotions and behaviour.

So this aspect is of huge interest to me.

I do believe its a major aspect, atleast for me in my chart, and not minor as some astrologers believed before, but seems like its been accepted as a bigger aspect now?

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