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Venusincap89
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posted July 26, 2014 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I am told that individuals with Venus aspect Pluto natal are likely to have a control freak partners that are super obsessive?

How young do you think people with this aspect can go through such scenarios?

Do you have this aspect or do you know someone who does?
Share your thoughts of this aspect please?

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posted July 26, 2014 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have venus opposite pluto. It's not a pleasant aspect to have. All of my ex boyfriends have tried to control me. I simply dumped them when they started exhibiting this behavior.

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posted July 26, 2014 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would agree, I have a tight conjunction in Scorpio. I wouldn't say they were controlling or obsessive, but they were somewhat demanding, showcasing unhappiness with certain characteristics of mine. I have never found anyone with staying power. Everyone talks about self sabotage, but everyone I've met seems to have some issue with me that ends our friendship or involvement. I'm not saying I don't play a part but I don't go out deliberately and am straightforward. People have said I'm hard to read but what keepz cropping up is, "I want you to care as much as I do." Which I find incredibly crushing maybe because of the tight Conjunction in Scorpio and the fact that I am fixed dominant. Friendships and relationships are important to me, I guess it just doesn't come across, and I'm leaning further towards just giving up on people all together.

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posted July 26, 2014 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh....

Luna's case number 1 of an exaggerating obsessively-controlling (scorpio....oh) dude
(why are you talking to him? are you cheating on me/where are you going, when will you get back?/i miss you.. you are mine, you know that, right? ALL MINE/dude, back off from my girl, SHE'S MINE/don't touch her, she's mine/DONT LOOK AT HER, SHE'S MINE/SHE'S ******* MINE!!! scorpio type.. oh lord.)

So this guy.... would go crazy if he saw me talking to another male. If i was also talking to a girl, he HAD to know about what.
Super super duper possessive and controlling, but he was also very emotional and loving. I liked how committed and caring he was for me - Cancer moon, but my independent Sag sun needed to breathe! I couldn't go out with friends without him worrying about me or making up scenarios then throwing his illusions right in my face and bounding me to him.

(He is a Scorpio sun with a cancer moon IN 8th.... ohh the irony )

Cool combination. After I read this thread, i ran straight to his chart i don't remember much..... And I'm honestly scared right now ahahaha!

He has Pluto at the oh great anaretic degree 29 degrees Scorpio + Venus at 12 degrees Sag both in his 12th house...
Venus is conjunct his Sag ASC conjunct mars in his 1st house.
Then his Scorpio sun is conjunct mercury........ ugh
His cancer moon from his 8th house is trine his Pluto... I guess he needed control (obsessive, in this case) in order for him to emotionally survive and feel like belonging, i guess.

Luna's case number 2 of a psycho (capricorn sun and asc plus moon)..
(which was such a controlling monster that he hired detectives to spy on me when I was away in a vacation with my mom /called the cops once when I was sent to my grandmother in another vacation because he thought my mom abandoned me/money is his anthem-he will buy your little heart with the greenies/you ain't gettin' out of the house without telling me where and with who are you going out/you hugged that guy? oh yes? he is just your friend? total BS, i knew you were cheating on me ****/giving me a personal phone to just speak to him/checking all my accounts/had no privacy/CONTROL CONTROL TRIPLE CAPRICORN - Sun, moon and ASC MANIAC )


Mars conjunct Saturn in scorpio. Control.
Venus conjunct mercury, Sun, Moon conjunct Chiron and NN ALL IN CAPRICORN AND IN 12TH HOUSE. RESTRICT, RESTRICT.
Funny.
Opposite? Of course, Cancer south node, conjunct Uranus. Oh lord.

Pluto? Nicely chilling in his 7th house in Leo, no aspects.
His venus is sextile his mars and saturn from Scorpio, though.

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My venus doesn't make any aspect to Pluto, though. Yet my Pluto trines my NN from 7th ..... damn

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posted July 26, 2014 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ash20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it could go the other way too. When they really like someone they can turn into a controlling and jealous person.

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posted July 26, 2014 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astra:
I have venus opposite pluto. It's not a pleasant aspect to have. All of my ex boyfriends have tried to control me. I simply dumped them when they started exhibiting this behavior.

How old were you when you had your first controlling boyfriend?

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posted July 26, 2014 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Swift Freeze:
I would agree, I have a tight conjunction in Scorpio. I wouldn't say they were controlling or obsessive, but they were somewhat demanding, showcasing unhappiness with certain characteristics of mine. I have never found anyone with staying power. Everyone talks about self sabotage, but everyone I've met seems to have some issue with me that ends our friendship or involvement. I'm not saying I don't play a part but I don't go out deliberately and am straightforward. People have said I'm hard to read but what keepz cropping up is, "I want you to care as much as I do." Which I find incredibly crushing maybe because of the tight Conjunction in Scorpio and the fact that I am fixed dominant. Friendships and relationships are important to me, I guess it just doesn't come across, and I'm leaning further towards just giving up on people all together.


Ohhh someone I know has a conjunction in scorpio as well
Don't give up by the way, I was told that people with venus aspect pluto gets wiser and better with each relationship!!! Dont give up!!!

Oh and how old were you when you had your first... unpleasant relationship with a demanding partner?

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posted July 26, 2014 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ash20:
I think it could go the other way too. When they really like someone they can turn into a controlling and jealous person.

Yess I was told the same
I was told that venus aspect pluto ppl cant stand superfical relationships and will start drama if its too relaxed
Sounds like a lot of fun
Ahahaj

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posted July 26, 2014 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries Venus Opposes Pluto!
I need loads of drama,passion,obsession in love. At the same time it must be refined. But I dont want a cave man. Men of my age group have this aspect with me. Pluto opposes my Venus. Also their Neptune trines my Venus.

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posted July 26, 2014 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
Aries Venus Opposes Pluto!
I need loads of drama,passion,obsession in love. At the same time it must be refined. But I dont want a cave man. Men of my age group have this aspect with me. Pluto opposes my Venus. Also their Neptune trines my Venus.

Can you give an example of what you mean by refined?
And how old were you when you had your first dramatic relationship?

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posted July 26, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Yess I was told the same
I was told that venus aspect pluto ppl cant stand superfical relationships and will start drama if its too relaxed
Sounds like a lot of fun
Ahahaj

Guy I am with has a Venus/Pluto thing going on. He is intense to make sure he knows where I am and then he'll back off when he feels safe...problem is that when *I* back off, it's usually down the path to Grand Canyon where I will be totally oblivious to things and when he feels this he panics.

I think many close aspects involving Pluto are very volatile for ALL parties involved and it's hard to relax 100 % so I think a plutonic person will do best with another plutonic person.

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posted July 26, 2014 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:

I think many close aspects involving Pluto are very volatile for ALL parties involved and it's hard to relax 100 % so I think a plutonic person will do best with another plutonic person.

That's a very interesting statement
I have a mars conjunct pluto in scorpio so your statement is definitely something for me to think about
Its so troublesome though
My Venus in cap wants a stable relationship but once it comes to me I can't stand it
Lol

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posted July 26, 2014 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Can you give an example of what you mean by refined?
And how old were you when you had your first dramatic relationship?

I dislike it when a couple fight in front of others. Or get abusive. Keep it within four walls. I have seen too many Venus-Pluto relationships. Too many manipulative games. I stay away from this synastric aspect. It does nothing for me. I have it in my natals.
Some of my class mates used to stalk me. Were veey obsessive. Not for a year or two. Six to eight years. Scary.
My first boyfriend was when i was 19. It lasted till i waa 22. Stayed single for few years. Now im happily married : )

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posted July 26, 2014 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
I dislike it when a couple fight in front of others. Or get abusive. Keep it within four walls. I have seen too many Venus-Pluto relationships. Too many manipulative games. I stay away from this synastric aspect. It does nothing for me. I have it in my natals.
Some of my class mates used to stalk me. Were veey obsessive. Not for a year or two. Six to eight years. Scary.
My first boyfriend was when i was 19. It lasted till i waa 22. Stayed single for few years. Now im happily married : )

Wow so interesting

So was your first relationship very dramatic as well? Stalking? Obsessive?

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posted July 26, 2014 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Wow so interesting

So was your first relationship very dramatic as well? Stalking? Obsessive?



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posted July 26, 2014 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I have the sextile a minor aspect, but it's still the tightest aspect to my Venus. I tend to draw people that have hard Venus Pluto aspects. They have all tried to control me and It just ended up getting bad.

Like people that won't let me talk to the male cashier. If I smile at a guy it means I'm flirting. I can't have male friends, but it always ends up that I can't have friends at all. When I talk to female friends it starts a fight because all these crazy guys had the same idea that I must be talking to my female friends about them and that my friends are going to bring a bunch of males to hang out with us. Wouldn't let me wear anything they thought was too sexy.

So now, I don't even look a male in the eye. I have no friends. I barely see family. **** Pluto.

Though my ex was a different level. He had the sextile too, and also mars conj Pluto. All the above but also he wouldn't let me have a job because he thought I was going to flirt with guys all day. But he would only buy the groceries and stuff he wanted. If there was no food in th house during the day I couldn't do **** because I had no money, we had no joint bank account and I would just have to wait for him to get home to take me shopping. He wouldn't let me see my family unless he was around. When I started to break away from him he got abusive.

If a Venus Pluto relationship ends, it usually ends with a lot of hate I think. I'm not sure if it's mutual hate or just one sided.


Wow thats so intense

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posted July 26, 2014 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ash20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Yess I was told the same
I was told that venus aspect pluto ppl cant stand superfical relationships and will start drama if its too relaxed
Sounds like a lot of fun
Ahahaj



Trust me. It's not lol

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posted July 27, 2014 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
How old were you when you had your first controlling boyfriend?

I was twenty. Every time I end a relationship, my life ends up being in danger. I broke up with my last boyfriend at 25 and was stalked for a few years. I've been terrified to get into a relationship given my history. The guys I dated were all "nice, nerdy" guys. I'm staying the hell away from them from now on.

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posted July 28, 2014 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Ohhh someone I know has a conjunction in scorpio as well
Don't give up by the way, I was told that people with venus aspect pluto gets wiser and better with each relationship!!! Dont give up!!!

Oh and how old were you when you had your first... unpleasant relationship with a demanding partner?


Thank you for the encouragement, we'll see what happens. I think I will aim to buy a puppy at some point.

I was 15, it wasn't unpleasant. I wouldn't say any of my few relationships were unpleasant, just that the person I am and things I am looking for, were not something my partner could, or knew how to provide. That is no fault of theirs, we just were not quite right for each other.

I give everyone a lot of freedom, I don't feel I am controlling. Obsessive and possessive, maybe a touch but most of the time you'll never know, and only in the sense that I pay attention to what is important to you. I won't text you twenty times a day, or call you five times a day, I won't worry if you decide to go out, except about your safety. You can have as much time as you want. I see some couples where they ask their partner if it's okay if they go away for a weekend or week with friends, and it seems like they're concerned that it will upset their partner. That wouldn't bother me, go and enjoy yourself, do the things you want to do. What I do not accept is shutting me out. When I am with you, I will support you, listen to you, be someone you can trust and talk to, I will not accept being shut out. If you are dealing with something tough, that's okay, take all the time you want, but don't just shut me out of your life completely, I am here with you, for you.

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posted July 28, 2014 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astra:
I have venus opposite pluto. It's not a pleasant aspect to have.All of my ex boyfriends have tried to control me. I simply dumped them when they started exhibiting this behavior.

Did they exhibit this type of behavior at the start? In other words, did you not find the "intensity" they exuded, at the start, very attractive?

I have Venus/Saturn conjunct and , sometimes, I feel that my BF is hard to be affectionate with- he can discourage me greatly by saying stuff "not now babes. "i'm busy!"

When i first met him, this "stoic" quality was the very thing that I was drawn to.

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posted July 28, 2014 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the sextile, but I also so have mars, neptune, uranus conjunction ... However I have scorpio dsc and I attract many scorpio venus and taurus opp pluto. I have decided to stick to air signs but I think I'm meant to be with someone a little bit obsessive.

I myself am obsessive and possessive. My mars sextile pluto and pluto square my sun. I tend to like plutonic relationship.

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