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barbriallen
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posted July 26, 2014 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for barbriallen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm trying to figure out someone's ascendant and I'm pretty sure it's Gemini but she's not exactly a social butterfly like a typical air sign. She's a Capricorn Sun with Moon in Virgo (or Taurus- I can't remember exactly but I'm 99% sure it's Virgo,)

I figured with all her Earth it could be possible it would tone down a Gemini rising because she's always very friendly and polite and she's great with words, speaking, writing, etc... She loves to learn, she's versatile and she does have an air of youthfulness (despite being a capricorn ) She also loves acting and with a Gemini asc, her moon is in the fifth which seems to fit too.
However, she's more reserved than not and likes to keep herself to herself overall- she's definitely an introvert. And she isn't funny like most gemini ascs, well she's funny but she has a darker humour that most people don't see off the bat.

Anyway, there's the background to my question. I don't know many Geminis which is why I'm having a hard time figuring this out. Do any of you know of gemini rising being "shy"?

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posted July 27, 2014 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libracorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you can't really look at 'one placement' to determine how someone's personality is in astrology. I assume it's due to her Earthy placements she's a little toned down - just like you say.

I guess I can relate.. I'm a like a Triple-Libra, and I have a Capricorn ascendant. But I'm quiet most of the time, and to myself. Libra's aren't like that... So yeah.. It just depends on the rest of the horoscope.

How are her planets being aspected? Maybe that has something to do with it?

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posted July 27, 2014 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do actually, my best friend. It surprised me a bit because you would normally think that a gemini rising is chatty but nope, her birth time is correct as is written on her birth certificate and nurse records.

However, the gemini traits start to show ONCE you get to know her. At first, she is shy reserved, she has social anxiety but once she talks, the wittiness comes out. She is good with words and writing.

And woah my best friend is the same way, she is known for her dark sarcastic humor :O

I think one reason why my bff comes off as shy is because of saturn in the 10th house...I guess planets in the angles will affect personality. Also, I take into account the progressed ascendant. As we age, our personality changes, we don't stay the same forever, that's why progressed charts and transits should be considered. Progressed, her ascendant would be in cancer, which explains the shy/introvwert part.

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posted July 27, 2014 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say ANY rising could be depending on the rest of the chart.

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posted July 27, 2014 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for barbriallen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all of your responses! It's true, I usually don't focus on only one placement but because it's the ascendant, I assumed that it would be harder to hide but you guys are right, it's easily influenced by other placements.

Libracorn- Hmm, not sure about aspects but she does have a lot of eighth house placements and saturn in the seventh if that's the case.

MillyX- That sounds just like her! Good idea, I'll have to look up her progressed chart

DF- True!

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posted July 27, 2014 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep!

I'm a Leo, Gem moon, Libra rising.
So you'd think I'd be just a big ball of outgoing, extrovert, socializing personality.

Nope. I'm not shy, but I just don't feel the need to talk to someone if I don't have to. I'd rather just keep moving along. Some neighbors were sitting outside just a few minutes ago. One very friendly said, "Hi. How are you doing tonight?"
I gave a very boring, "Good" and kept going. Not even asking "How are you?" back to them. LOL

I think it's all my 12th and Pluto/asc.

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posted July 27, 2014 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My cousin is a gemini sun and he is very quiet and reserved. However, I don't know anything about the rest of his chart but my guess is there is something else going on.

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posted July 27, 2014 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supreme cT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Yep!

I'm a Leo, Gem moon, Libra rising.
So you'd think I'd be just a big ball of outgoing, extrovert, socializing personality.

Nope. I'm not shy, but I just don't feel the need to talk to someone if I don't have to. I'd rather just keep moving along. Some neighbors were sitting outside just a few minutes ago. One very friendly said, "Hi. How are you doing tonight?"
I gave a very boring, "Good" and kept going. Not even asking "How are you?" back to them. LOL

I think it's all my 12th and Pluto/asc.


Lmfao thats deff the pluto! I get that way sometimes to its like i dont have time for superficial conversations so i cut them off quick with a dry uninterested answer and keep it movin ! For me Its "the struggle" having an aqua rising but scorpio sun im either very social or im just not in the mood for talking or being bothered by random people i have pluto conjunct mc as well so thats pretty contradictory energy between outgoing light aqua and scorpio/ pluto lol

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posted July 27, 2014 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
Lmfao thats deff the pluto! I get that way sometimes to its like i dont have time for superficial conversations so i cut them off quick with a dry uninterested answer and keep it movin ! For me Its "the struggle" having an aqua rising but scorpio sun im either very social or im just not in the mood for talking or being bothered by random people i have pluto conjunct mc as well so thats pretty contradictory energy between outgoing light aqua and scorpio/ pluto lol

I feel your pain!
Sometimes I feel very social. More like... One day out of every 1-2 weeks. lol To where I'd just talk to anyone. Even around my own family I can be pretty quiet.
But when I feel all social that's usually when there's no one new to talk to. lol

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posted July 27, 2014 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure.

My mom is Leo Asc and reserved. She has Virgo stellium which includes Sun.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I met my boyfriend I guessed that he would have a cancer rising (based on a lot of things and I thought he looked like one)

It turned out that he is born on the EXACT time where it changes from gemini into cancer, so a couple of minutes before or later, and then I would know what his exact ascendant would be… so I am in doubt like you, cause he is very friendly, great with words and writing, but he is definitely not a social butterfly who chit chat with everyone in the room, he sticks to the same people and he is reserved in a way… the rest of his chart is very much air, water and only very little earth, so that is why I would think he has cancer rising because a gemini rising would be more social in my book…

But on the other hand my boyfriend has a very short attention span, is very restless and is bored quickly, he likes to learn new things and is curious about most things…

On the other hand again he seems frightened about "new stuff", is very lazy and "slow" getting out the door, and is kind of cancer-like in so many ways…

My conclusion is he must simply be both ascendants, cause it doesn't make sense to me lol! He even looks like both ascendants, cause he is tall, but used to be a little overweight, has soft features and bright eyes and hair (like cancer) but also elf like and slim features (on his older days) like a gemini…

Maybe you could describe what he looks like? Is he tall, slim etc.?

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posted July 27, 2014 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Gemini risings can be shy, but that's only if we choose to. I am a typical Gemini rising--talkative, funny, very sociable, etc. But there was once a time where I was so scared to talk to people and always kept to myself. I didn't like parties and all that typical stuff Gem risings would. That was the year where my SR chart was water heavy and I had Cancer ascendant. So really, for me, it depends on my SR chart whether I wanna be introvert or not.

Then again, I am a Leo sun and I like the attention. I get the attention I want by being my rising sign. Your friend probably doesn't like attention too much, considering she's a Cap sun.

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posted July 27, 2014 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Short answer: yes.

Gemini as a sign is very easily influenced by other energies in the chart. That goes for the Moon and the ASC especially. It can manifest very differently depending on the surrounding factors in the chart, since it's Mutable Air.

I've known a fair share of Gemini ASC's and the differences can be striking... You'd never guess by looking at some of them that they have a Gemini rising - shy, withdrawn, "weird," socially awkward, quiet... What?? Gemini rising?? Ha, yes. Surprise, surprise.

But here's the interesting part. After a while, when you get to know them better, the Gemini starts manifesting itself in more visible ways - usually you can see nervousness, "hyperness," a lot of talking, sometimes physical movements like fidgeting, gesticulating or moving the body a lot, acting silly or goofy, making jokes (even lame ones), and so on. Also, the face is usually very expressive, even if they're shy - the eyes, the eyebrows, the mouth and the features in general seem to be in motion when they're involved in conversation (unless they don't want to be part of the conversation or are in a bad mood, although you'd probably see that as well).

So, while it may not be very visible at first... It's still present in the personality. So if you've never seen her being chatty, seemingly hyper or nervous, talking fast or giving some speech... then you should probably reconsider your guess.

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posted July 27, 2014 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Janah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Gemini risers can be reserved. It's always important to look at where the natal mercury is placed. I have mercury retrograde in Taurus in the 12th with a Gemini rising. Capricorn moon. Sometimes people think I'm cold, lost, boring, and/or quiet (heck, I am all of those at times), but once I feel comfortable with a person I love to talk, learn, entertain, share ideas and explore with that person. Does your friend have an androgynous or ambiguous look? Long arms? Kinda looks mischievous? Those are common traits I've found in a few Gemini risers I've come by.

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posted July 27, 2014 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Very good point about the chart ruler.
I also look like what you described, lmao.

Although I've known some who weren't tall/slim nor did they have long limbs. Pfft, imposters.

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posted July 27, 2014 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Janah:
Yes, Gemini risers can be reserved. It's always important to look at where the natal mercury is placed. I have mercury retrograde in Taurus in the 12th with a Gemini rising. Capricorn moon. Sometimes people think I'm cold, lost, boring, and/or quiet (heck, I am all of those at times), but once I feel comfortable with a person I love to talk, learn, entertain, share ideas and explore with that person. Does your friend have an androgynous or ambiguous look? Long arms? Kinda looks mischievous?

Good point about the position of Mercury. Mine is in the 3rd house and it's domicile in Virgo. Even if it's in an earth sign, I still feel very extroverted and sociable maybe because of the house placement. Funny thing is, I don't got long arms and I'm not slim like typical Gemini risers. But what I do have is that mischievous and androgynous look that you're talking about.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kibriana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are other things to be considered, too. Ascandant is powerful, yes, but there are other things as well. Some aspects can really tone down Gemini ASC. Like the ones you mentioned. And let's not forget that that ASC is not only about communicating, it's also about obtaining information, learning, writing...I read it once that Gemini ASC's first impression of the world is through information processing - gathering the bits and pieces from environment and making the best out of it. Mental processing and information gathering does not need to happen via talking, there are many other ways. Which way will be dominant depends on other aspects .

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posted July 27, 2014 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by barbriallen:
I'm trying to figure out someone's ascendant and I'm pretty sure it's Gemini but she's not exactly a social butterfly like a typical air sign. She's a Capricorn Sun with Moon in Virgo (or Taurus- I can't remember exactly but I'm 99% sure it's Virgo,)

I figured with all her Earth it could be possible it would tone down a Gemini rising because she's always very friendly and polite and she's great with words, speaking, writing, etc... She loves to learn, she's versatile and she does have an air of youthfulness (despite being a capricorn ) She also loves acting and with a Gemini sac, her moon is in the fifth which seems to fit too.

However, she's more reserved than not and likes to keep herself to herself overall- she's definitely an introvert. And she isn't funny like most gemini ascs, well she's funny but she has a darker humour that most people don't see off the bat.

Anyway, there's the background to my question. I don't know many Geminis which is why I'm having a hard time figuring this out. Do any of you know of gemini rising being "shy"?


Well, you can separate her ASC from her Sun (I think) if you look at what she says (Sun) vs. how she says it (ASC).

Two, being double earth I could see making her reserved. That's a lot of grounding.

Three, yes Gemini risings can be reserved. I have Gemini rising! I detest small talk. There's a description on CafeAstrology that even notes there's two types of Gemini risings. However, there's duality with everything so it's kind of general but Gemini are indeed the twins.

The darker humor is her Capricorn side. But air signs and Capricorn are my favorite placements for people. They crack me up with their on-point observations! Makes me miss my Libra Sun Capricorn ASC friend.

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