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Topic: Do you think having Pluto on AC would attract spirits to the person?
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Gabby
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posted July 27, 2014 12:32 AM
  
If Pluto represents death and life...would this placement make it easier for spirits to connect and be attracted to these ppl?IP: Logged |
soren
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posted July 27, 2014 12:35 AM
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Gabby
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posted July 27, 2014 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by soren:
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soren
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posted July 27, 2014 12:38 AM
Because I think Pluto's energy might be controlling and transforming and powerful, and I think a spirit might like someone to be vulnerable and open to understand them. A spirit wouldn't want to just be controlledIP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted July 27, 2014 12:39 AM
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Because I think Pluto's energy might be controlling and transforming and powerful, and I think a spirit might like someone to be vulnerable and open to understand them. A spirit wouldn't want to just be controlled
Hmmm...interesting. I can see that line of reasoning!
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soren
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posted July 27, 2014 01:00 AM
But Pluto conj asc would probably make a good exorcist. Well I'm just guessing with all of thisIP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted July 27, 2014 01:11 AM
Hmmm,Soren.....that's even more interesting and very fitting!IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted July 27, 2014 01:12 AM
I agree. I have a few stories. Though, I'm not certain of if I should believe it. I'm not 100% because I never really SAW anything with my eyes or heard anything with my ears. But, I have to say, I think Soren is right. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted July 27, 2014 01:45 AM
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I agree. I have a few stories. Though, I'm not certain of if I should believe it. I'm not 100% because I never really SAW anything with my eyes or heard anything with my ears. But, I have to say, I think Soren is right.
What's your story DF? I have some also.
I'm starting to realize I don't feel the fear of being hurt by energies even though I do feel them.
I don't feel threatened or scared because I know there's nothing to fear unless I give them fear. I believe I have the choice of what energy to give out and if I choose to give them only positive energy they don't have any power over me, it's only through fear they can feed off me and gain power, so don't if I don't give them any fear I can maintain control. I asked this question because I was wondering if potentially this was why I energies seem to connect to me easily, maybe it is or maybe not?
Anubis aries @9 is opposed AC/Pluto by 1 degree, sits right in between ...I don't think that's why they connect to me...but I'm really not for sure. It's probably more of pisces Pallas exact opposed my 12th house virgo Moon, that makes Pallas in my 6th house.
When energies do connect to me usually sensing them leads to messages for others...which makes sense because the 6th house is the house of work for others. Pallas and Moon are t-squared by my saggy DNA/Sekhemet/Angelica in 3rd(mental connection)
And it's a grand cross when add in gemini Psyche/Messenger/Erda and Telephus in 9th(spiritually felt) What Soren said made a lot of sense. I'm not scared of them or feel threatened by them probably due to the understanding and protective strength of Pluto, maybe? I watch shows about the ppl connecting to the other side and it seems so much more dramatic, probably the drama is just for tv but I do think ppl have trouble with entities. Ive wondered why I don't feel scared at all it's like I know they could not ever get close enough to me personally to harm me....maybe that's Pluto's protection? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted July 27, 2014 02:09 AM
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DeepFreeze
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posted July 27, 2014 02:39 AM
Dang Gabby... I wish I knew more about asteroids. Like which ones were important for what but jeez... just the planets are a lot to take in. So, here's my stories. Just telling it as I experienced it - maybe I'm crazy. LOL It made SOOOOOOO much sense what you wrote about not fearing it. When I read that I was blown away because that's how I feel! I feel like I can face them if I want to. Kind of like I'm in control. This one time YEARS ago. I was with this group of friends with a Ouija board. (Barbie hates these stories lol ) We were out in the middle of the night in this cemetery we called "13 steps" because there really was 13 steps up into it. Supposedly a witch was under the steps but nah... I don't believe all that.
They were "talking" to someone they claimed. I went to join in... nothing. I backed away. They talked some more. I went in to join again... nothing. So they asked it why it wouldn't talk to me. It said that it actually couldn't. IDK... that's just what my friends said. I used to live in this house built in 1905. Anywhere where the original wooden floor I SWEAR that I could feel this, energy that would follow me around and observe me. So I was dating this one woman who claimed to see spirits and stuff. We were in the kitchen. I could feel it just outside the kitchen but I never said a word. I didn't want to be thought of as some kind of nut. But she saw me looking over there (though I never saw anything, just "feeling") She said, "Do you feel that person over there too?" Whoa... whoa dude. We were both blown away that we both felt it there.
So one night I was moving around in my house and I could feel it kind of just moving from room to room. Keeping somewhat of a distance. I couldn't see it... it just felt like this.... pole of energy from floor to ceiling. I just felt it. But I got kind of annoyed and so I marched right up to it. I could feel it shrink... like a scolded dog tucks it's tail and hunches. I felt it shrink, but didn't run away.
Really strange. There's probably a couple more but I thought those were the most interesting that actually pertained to the topic. There was something very very VERY evil at another house once but I'm going to go get ready for bed.  It's not as on topic. I didn't really confront it or anything like that. Just refused to allow it to push me around really. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted July 27, 2014 03:03 AM
Very interesting stories DF!! The Ouija board really hit me because I can't get things like that to work either. I kind of thought ppl must be faking on those things, but after what you said maybe it's me or my energy somehow blocks them from connecting to me through that kind of portal, an unsecured portal. I seem to most definitely have the ability to pick n chose the kind of power they have. I can connect to them but then if I don't like how it feels I can cut off fall contact with them, it's like they just got banished off the face of the earth and connect touch me at all.
I always feel a wall between me n them, I know the physical things other ppl experience could not happen to me, I don't know why or how I know that but I do! It's so odd n cool that you feel this also!! Your Pluto is on AC to right? My grandmas house growing up had a terrible energy, I would call it evil! When I went upstairs I used to get so scared I would run fast enough down the stairs I'd always fall the last 3 steps and just tumble down them because there was always something right behind me about to grab me.
As an adult after my grandparents moved out, I went back to see if it was still there or just in my imagination.
It was still there but now I could feel it was dark out of anger and sadness, it wasn't after me but as a child all I knew is I felt a terrifying energy and I got scared.
I gave it life by pumping up it's energy with my fear....it felt very small n weak to me as an adult because I wasn't afraid but as a child it felt so powerful n scary. Please share your stories, if Barbie doesn't mind!!
I get why some ppl don't like those stories, esp if it's someone who love you! I bet it feels to them like potentially something that could come along and hurt us. BUT tell her not to worry you have the pit-bull Pluto guarding you! Lol
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DeepFreeze
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posted July 27, 2014 03:22 AM
One more very shortened version and then off to bed.
At that farmhouse I remember feeling watched as I laid down to sleep. Usually from the doorway. I think that there were multiples there. One night I felt something just... I've never felt so much hatred in my life. Something REALLY hated me. I felt it hovering over me, inches away just glaring with the most intense hatred. Despite this, I felt that it partially hated me knowing that it wasn't able to actually DO anything. It was disturbing but I told myself to block it out and go to sleep. I think I even told it to go away and that I'm going to sleep whether it likes it or not. Or something like that. lol
Some friends later said that they felt it from the porch outside. They felt it upstairs in my window.
So they got sage and all that. They said that they had cast it into this really really big tree behind the house.
Coincidence perhaps but wouldn't you know it that tree died within a year and they had to cut it down! Oh, during that time I had the worst, just insane and all around abusive relationship. It was nuts. Sometimes I wonder how much this may have played. Maybe she was more of an open door for it to attack me.... Idk. Food for thought. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted July 27, 2014 03:32 AM
Oh, at that farmhouse my friends grandparents died there, a baby fell down the stairs and died. The stairs that went up to my place. More important is his aunt committed suicide back in the 60's. Shot herself with a 4-10. She went crazy and said that the rapture was coming... Just... Out there. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted July 27, 2014 12:15 PM
Wow, that's crazy DF!! I think we have to be careful because even though they can't get to us personally I believe just like living beings are drawn to our Pluto either to try to instigate something with us or just an unexplained attraction either way, for good or bad ppl can become a bit obsessed with us without any real reason.
It's actually our Pluto that's drawing them in...I think spirits can be the same way and they might find other ways to get close to us if possible, potentially using negative ppl to lower our defenses. IMO IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
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posted July 27, 2014 12:26 PM
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Ami Anne
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posted July 27, 2014 12:27 PM
It is weird you ask that, one of my clients had this and she has Pluto conj the ASC------------------
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KarkaQueen
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posted July 27, 2014 12:40 PM
I believe Neptune conjunct or opposite one's Ascendant, Sun, Mercury, or Moon makes the person more vulnerable to spirits than Pluto does. Why? Because Neptune represents psychic, unconscious, and astral realms. I have Neptune-AC and I have had spirits attracted to me and I have astral projected for a little while one time. My mother has Mercury-Neptune and spirits talk to her in her dreams.Spirits are more attracted to Piscean,Neptunian, and 12th house energy because it rules of the unconscious and auric vulnerability. I noticed people who will find their energy drained and tortured by Astral spirits have Kaali-AC, Moon-Kaali, Moon-Neptune, Moon-AC, Neptune-Kaali.. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted July 27, 2014 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I believe Neptune conjunct or opposite one's Ascendant, Sun, Mercury, or Moon makes the person more vulnerable to spirits than Pluto does. Why? Because Neptune represents psychic, unconscious, and astral realms. I have Neptune-AC and I have had spirits attracted to me and I have astral projected for a little while one time. My mother has Mercury-Neptune and spirits talk to her in her dreams.Spirits are more attracted to Piscean,Neptunian, and 12th house energy because it rules of the unconscious and auric vulnerability. I noticed people who will find their energy drained and tortured by Astral spirits have Kaali-AC, Moon-Kaali, Moon-Neptune, Moon-AC, Neptune-Kaali..
I have Neptune conjunct kaali <1 degree (3rd) square Venus in 12.
Anyway... Ami. I'd love to hear more about your experience from clients, if you can.
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Canadiangirl
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posted July 27, 2014 01:47 PM
Just thought I'd add my two cents here. I understand what you mean DeepFreeze about feeling something there. I have pluto trine asc and I always had that impression too. I couldn't see anything but it was more of a very strong feeling. I've had some weird experiences where I thought something was there and after speaking to the person who lives or works there find out they believe the place is haunted. I don't ask direct questions but ask what they experienced to see if its matches my impressions. Its usually the same as what I feel. I hate being able to do this and usually try to block it if its anything.IP: Logged |
Canadiangirl
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posted July 27, 2014 01:51 PM
KarkaQueen:
I believe Neptune conjunct or opposite one's Ascendant, Sun, Mercury, or Moon makes the person more vulnerable to spirits than Pluto does. Why? Because Neptune represents psychic, unconscious, and astral realms. --Great, I have neptune opposite ascendant, pluto trine ascendant, neptune opposite moon and 12th house planets. Wld being a cancer make this worse? Where's a cross when I need one? :P Yikes, did I just kill the conversation? IP: Logged |
ash20
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posted July 27, 2014 04:00 PM
I have scorpio rising with pluto in the first and a ghost has shown itself to me. Its only happened once so far though.IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted July 27, 2014 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Wow, that's crazy DF!! I think we have to be careful because even though they can't get to us personally I believe just like living beings are drawn to our Pluto either to try to instigate something with us or just an unexplained attraction either way, for good or bad ppl can become a bit obsessed with us without any real reason.
It's actually our Pluto that's drawing them in...I think spirits can be the same way and they might find other ways to get close to us if possible, potentially using negative ppl to lower our defenses. IMO
Definitely brought out an ugly side of me as well, never before seen or after. I didn't feel like myself. I'm not suggesting possession of either of us but perhaps influenced her very strongly to influence my behavior and launch attacks at me.
It was really something else.... I think I have at least one picture of that tree stump not that there is anything interesting in it. lol
They said that the tree had died from the inside. Looked healthy but some of the farther reaching branches had clearly died indicating that it was on its way out.
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MagnumJoe
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posted July 27, 2014 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I believe Neptune conjunct or opposite one's Ascendant, Sun, Mercury, or Moon makes the person more vulnerable to spirits than Pluto does.
I have Neptune conjunct Sun in 1st house, but i have never experienced anything, and i don't think i am even remotely psychic  lol Not even once have i had a dream that came to reality  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 27, 2014 04:31 PM
Anyway... Ami. I'd love to hear more about your experience from clients, if you can. Thanks DF I am a counselor but I never like to do counseling without the charts. With them, the person opens up before you and it is truly a beautiful thing. I will share more in the coming threads  ------------------
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