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Dancing Maenad
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posted July 27, 2014 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It can be anything, a planet, a placement, a house, an aspect or a configuration, a midpoint etc. You tell us. But I want to know why!

For me, my top 3 would look like this:

1. Venus - because it's unaspected, singleton (only Earth), in domicile (Taurus) and angular (conj IC). They say unaspected planets run away with the chart/overpower everything. It's true.

2. Sadly, have to give the Cap rising its due importance. I have no other explanation for the fact that my VERY fiery nature does not shine on the outside, except for this pesky rising.

3. My see-saw configuration. I am always conflicted and I am always pondering between opposite view points. I do make up my mind pretty fast because I am still an Aries, but it has made it impossible for me to take any opinion or stance too personally, given that I can just as easily flip to 180 (I wasn't too good at debates because of this). Other than that, switching between sides has all sorts of unexpected, fun perks. Not exactly Jekyll/Hyde but keeps it interesting, to say the least.

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bansheequeen
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posted July 27, 2014 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Going by my pullen, it's the moon and cancer. Makes sense for me because i am very emotional and just butthurt about everything. A lot of times I just get a gut reaction to things and I need a moment, or a very long time in order to figure out why I feel that way, but the feelings can never be ignored.

My chart ruler is mercury. I am pretty mercurial too. Hard to pin down and I don't really settle on things easily. I tend to overthink and I'm just a nervous person.

My t square with sun moon opposition and mars in the middle. I have a lot of internal tension and explosive anger.

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posted July 27, 2014 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pullen says mercury, sun, moon..

This is what I have in my head. Venus is really up there too both in my head and in pullen. Venus is chart ruler. Idk... I really don't but this is where my instincts took me on this.


1 - MERCURY!!
Mercury just absolutely dominates my chart. I also have to include my Gemini Moon in the mix with this as Mercury is the ruler of Gemini and they square 2 degrees. (Mercury in Virgo, Moon in Gemini) Mercury also conjuncts Mars 3 degrees.
Mercury is on overdrive! It never stops and the investigative qualities are sometimes very difficult for even myself to deal with. Anything and everything gets thrown under the microscope to be analyzed and inspected. I try to recognize patterns, look for clues, etc. Even my own emotions fall into this. Once in a while I will find myself completely silent, lost in thought as I try to grasp what it is that I feel. I sense the feeling, but don't know what it is.
Moodiness is another problem. It takes me all but .02 seconds to flip a 180 on my mood.
The moon part also gives a very cleaver and wittiness. Creativity out the butt and to see me unrestricted as Barbie does is really something. I'm quite the clown.
Mars ads some twist to most enjoying playing detective with homicides and that sort of thing. Looking at actual homicide/suicide scenes.
Overall not a placement I'm all that fond of, even though it very strongly defines me. I am still in the learning process of trying to appreciate it. Which I do quite a bit... I'm making progress (with Barbies help. LOL )

2 - Pluto conjunct asc.
Another difficult one honestly. It probably accounts for some of the digging and trying to uncover things. Probably also plays into why I am so drawn to murder/suicide scenes and really wanting to solve them. (There's a unsolved case from 95 that's always stayed in my mind. I never hear anything about it, but it really bothers me that it's unsolved) I don't do so well in public either. LOL Just yesterday we were out shopping and Barbie can see this... look I get. It's almost like panic but with an irritated twist. Like I'm going to get shaky and sweaty, but don't quite. I get in a hurry and really just want to hit the door. At work, there is a nurses office... little office with a tiny little waiting room and hearing test box. For my two breaks I call Barbie but I always slip into that little waiting room with the lights out. I'm not sure that even she knows that I do that. LOL I sit in corners of places a lot or along the wall. I hate being in the middle out in the open. I don't want to be watched. I don't want my conversations to be heard. (Could be all that 12th too... IDK)

3 - Leo Sun
He kind of plays clown with my Gemini moon. (They sextile <1 degree). He is very proud, demands respect, and honesty. He wants truth. (So do the other two) I'll take any truth if it's given with respect. I very much expect loyalty. If you are my friend, you will be loyal. If I do wrong, you will stay by me, support me, but point out to me with respect where you think I'm wrong, all in an effort to help me grow. If I feel betrayed, one and/or two things happen. I ice you out without notice, or I come raging at you verbally and launch my assault. OR... I do the 2nd, followed by the first. LOL Leo with me I feel like plays a big role in what I demand of others (It's in my 11th also, so that might make sense)
Mercury and Pluto more to do with my day to day personality. Though Leo sometimes joins Gemini to bring some lively creativity!! It's always enjoyable!

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Geeky
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posted July 27, 2014 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Pullen says I am Mercury dominant, but the Sun is my chart ruler. Makes sense with all of this Leo energy afoot!

"ME ME ME..... Look at MEEEEEEEE!!!!"

Thankfully, it tames down in close personal relationships (when I actually care / give a crap, in other words).

However, I have one bad trait that does carry over into my personal relationships and it is proving to be quite difficult to get rid of.

I just noticed this within the last year (and I am 36 soon), but I tend to interrupt people in conversation because in my head, what I have to say is WAY more important.

I know how obnoxious that is and how arrogant that sounds, so I am trying very hard to stop. I literally have to tell myself, "wait" because other people can't seem to finish their point fast enough. I don't want to seem like an uncaring buttface because I truly DO care about what people are saying... I just wish people could talk faster. I get the idea very quickly and I don't need elaborate explanation.

That may be Mercury intellect though (working & analyzing everything so fast).

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted July 27, 2014 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably that silly Neptune number 1 water singleton in exact opposition to a light.
Next is Venus, chart Ruler angular singleton.
Third is really tough to call.

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MagnumJoe
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posted July 27, 2014 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:

By Pullen, it's Pluto, Jupiter and Sun

Wow that's weird!

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KarkaQueen
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posted July 27, 2014 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Earthly Venusian, nice! You must be really beautiful and have a voluptuous body.


1) Moon
Why? Moon is exalted in Taurus, in it's house of Joy (the 3rd house) and conjunct my Nadir.

2) Neptune
Neptune is conjunct my Ascendant and opposite my Sun.

3) Sun
Sun is conjunct my Descendant

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Barbiegirl19
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posted July 27, 2014 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) My sun/moon exact. I think it speaks volumes in itself. It's me inside and out. I am THE charmer lol I think I'd make one hell of a tv show host, give Ellen a run for her money.

2) Venus is my chart ruler and I am Venus dominant, who didn't see that one coming. I outeat everyone here when it comes to chocolate. My Venus is in Scorpio and it can be a blessing or curse at times. I know astrologers like to bad mouth it quite frequently but ya know what I loooove it and feel it very strongly. I'm the most loyal, compassionate and selfless person you'll ever meet. When pushed I'm the opposite, I give Tonya Harding and Jody Arias a good name. #dontmesswithbarbie

3) My 12th house stellium. After I overcame it's obstacles I think it's made me so much more relatable. I'm not afraid anymore. I don't have to run or hide anymore. I'm in control and I think that's the key to beautifying it. I'm everyone's counselor.

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KarkaQueen
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posted July 27, 2014 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ you probably dont gain weight either.. I gotta watch what I eat smh

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Barbiegirl19
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posted July 27, 2014 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't at all before, I was always a 2. I've put on a few pounds but it's not at all anything to worry about. I'm eating a lot more freely then I did then, I was obsessed with my weight.

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posted July 27, 2014 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shi I I I I I I it....


I'm the king of chocolate AND ice cream.

Ok sorry... I just had to correct her on that one.

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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted July 27, 2014 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh here's mine:

1) Mercury - It is very powerful in my chart because it's my chart ruler and it's in a domicile house and sign. I feel my Mercury very well. My mind is always on the go, always thinking, always devouring all kinds of knowledge that comes its way. I am very sociable because of it, too.

2) Leo Sun - Basically, I feel my Sun strongly. I really don't know why, but maybe because has the tightest aspect with Uranus in my chart. I feel this constant struggle to not conform and just stand out from the crowd while still getting all the attention I want. My fifth house is also fueled by Libra along with my Mars. As they say, air makes fire burn brighter especially when I have an air ascendant. Also, my chart ruler is in the house ruled by Leo. This adds up to the power of my Sun.

3) Aquarian influence - My Uranus is in Aquarius and it strongly aspects my Sun. As said above, I always want to stand out as a unique individual. I am also very humanitarian and I prefer to put other people before me. My Jupiter is also in Aquarius and is trine my Ascendant and Mars. It is also sextile Saturn. They're all in tight orb and are part of a Grand Air Kite. I feel that Aquarius strongly influences my personality because of this and especially since my Jupiter is domicile in the 9th house.

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BellaFenice
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posted July 27, 2014 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) Saturn

Old man always has to take the fun away!

2) Uranus

But my homegirl Uranus brings the fun back!

3) Venus

Venus is like the moderator who keeps a healthy balance between pain and pleasure in my life.

I think the 1st house stellium tends the water down the influence of the above though.

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posted July 28, 2014 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter and Sag dominant:
More of everything and everything is ultimately fine.

Mars and Scorpio 2nd dominant:
Let's do and feel everything to the EXTREME right now.

Fire dominant:
f*** you i won't do what you tell me ^_~

Afflicted moon
= *suicidal robot* or *euphoric party kitten*

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Gabby
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posted July 28, 2014 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this what your talking about to find your dominant planets through Pullen? I'm not sure where to find it if not....

Ok no Pullen......I think I'm a combo, Jupiter, Venus, Merc I think are my priority placements.

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posted July 28, 2014 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^
That's it!

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Gabby
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posted July 28, 2014 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart is like a desert, a barren wasteland without any water!!

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posted July 28, 2014 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus, Saturn, mercury
Libra, sag, Aries

I hate typing on my phone even though most of my typing is on my phone.

Getting it?
I'm not sure what all they take into account but most people on here go by it.

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posted July 28, 2014 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Selenite:

Fire dominant:
f*** you i won't do what you tell me


Zack De la Rocha is that you ?

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posted July 28, 2014 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh! Is there such a thing as "most" influential? All play such big and often subtle roles. But if I had to pick my favorites,I would choose the following.

In no particular order;

1.The Moon in 3rd house. I have a western concentrated chart(most planets fall between my 5th to 9th house)and the Moon is the only "loner" planet on the eastern part.

Moon "pulls" a lot of the energy of the remaining house(10th to 4th). I am consumed with issues of Independence,self-sustenance and personal freedom.

2.Uranus in Sag in 8th house

This placements contributes strongly to my sexuality. I have also noticed that transits to this planet are very telling. It is also the ruler of my MC.

3.Mercury in 9th house

I think I've made this one quite clear to anyone who reads my posts. I can write an essay and then some

4. Venus and Saturn in 7th.

Cannot ever leave these two out. Venus in 7th has the "social" effect on me and Saturn comes and shuts it down or limits it.

This aspect is like throwing a party with the cut-off time being 10:00 pm.

Or sneaking out to a party, not enjoying yourself much whilst there-because you are worried and anxious that your parents will find your bed empty.

Those are my fantastic 5.

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posted July 28, 2014 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury and Uranus by aspects, placement and delineation. Venus parallel Sun and Pluto Parallel Mars by declination. I guess all of that will sum me up.

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posted July 28, 2014 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's hard for me to know exactly what my biggest influence is because my chart is like pulling itself apart in 5 different directions which is very confusing… but 1 of them is my Pisces moon in 10th, which I think is the strongest influence in my whole chart.

The next is my Saturn, neptune and uranus in 6th house who sits there in capricorn and is looking over at jupiter on the opposed side, and square my moon and the 3rd big influenced link in my chart which is my Sun conjunct Mars in virgo in 4th.

The Sun and Mars sits there and looks over on the opposite side at my Moon and laughs of anger and aggression, and squares the Uranus with some really strong aspects that speaks of willpower and drive. My Mercury is also close to those 2 fighters, but not enough to make a conjunction, but enough to form 2 very influential T-squares with jupiter and Moon, and neptune.

The 4th link to fulfill my difficult grand cross that is not a complete grand cross which makes it even worse, is my Jupiter in cancer. It sits there lonely in the 12th house and looks over at my 3 capricorn planets and squares my mercury. My jupiter has a hard time, cause it's too much cancer to touch my moon with a square which could have fulfilled my grand cross, on the other hand my Moon in pisces could have moved into Aries and would have made me a whole other human being, but no.

The 5th link is the only easy thing in my chart, it is my Venus which sits in the 5th house, right besides my Sun/Mars in 4th and The 3 cap-planets in 6th. It sits there and touch everyone nicely, but not my Sun/Mars unfortunately. If it only did that I think I could have made a great artist or writer if my venus touched my mercury, but nothing seems to fit and guide me in any direction.

So there is these 5 links that is unfulfilled, and screams at someone to come and solve it, that could be a Scorpio or Taurus because they sits in my 11th and 5th houses which is also my intercepted houses.

I don't think anyone understood all that mess, but that just proves how confused my chart is

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posted July 28, 2014 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaFatale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Going by my pullen, it's the moon and cancer. Makes sense for me because i am very emotional and just butthurt about everything. A lot of times I just get a gut reaction to things and I need a moment, or a very long time in order to figure out why I feel that way, but the feelings can never be ignored.

My chart ruler is mercury. I am pretty mercurial too. Hard to pin down and I don't really settle on things easily. I tend to overthink and I'm just a nervous person.

My t square with sun moon opposition and mars in the middle. I have a lot of internal tension and explosive anger.


Wow same here! My moon in cancer. I'm mercurial too, Virgo rising & Gemini mars.

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posted July 28, 2014 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings to her Royal Arien Majesty D.M.

Please allow me to answer the qustion:

1. Sun (Exalted) conjunct Jupiter conjunct North Node. (jupiter expands the sun's energy and the north node adds more passion to it)

2. Unaspected Mars in 8th house. (unaspected raging planet in a raging house!)

3. Kite configuration in Water signs. (this is like the grand trine but stronger it involves 2 personal planets and 2 outer planets)

2&3 are interchangeable in importance rank between each other depending on the situation.

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posted July 28, 2014 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, no, no! I am not interested to know what Mr. Pullen says - I want to know your personal and very subjective opinion about what influences you the most from your chart. When you make decisions, which aspect or placement has the loudest voice? Which pattern keeps repeating, for good or bad, in your life? If you had to draw the line and think about which element or configuration (or placement etc) is your life most about??

That is what I mean. Give Mr. Pullen a rest, but you can pick anything you want. If you have a massive stellium in the 9th, so be it. Or perhaps you think your Mercury sesquisquare Uranus has to do with your very progressive thinking.

And YES, there is such a thing as "most influential". Say a person has struggled all their life with a low self esteem issue, clearly their Sun-Saturn square (or other aspect/placement pointing to this) is a huge influential factor, because the effects of it boomerang and affect all areas of one's life.

I was a wee troubled last night, perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough.

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