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Topic: People who are brusque
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 827 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 28, 2014 08:16 AM
What Asc position indicates a very brusque individual? I met someone yesterday that I haven't seen in 11 years. We were not exactly buddies in high school, but he was Deputy-Head Prefect and I was a Prefect. It was a big deal back then So, I was a little excited that I recognized him and greeted him with warmth. But he responded with a very abrupt and empty "hi, how you doing?" and passed and I was taken aback. I was left standing there and well... I thought perhaps he is in a bad mood? didn't care for me? or was just really on his way somewhere? But all the same, you don't do that to people when they make it a point to greet you.Do you? I have not met numerous class mates and former teachers from my high school. But when I do,they ALWAYS get so excited and elated to meet someone from way back when. It's a blast from the past. And even those I didn't particularly care for, those who teased me and those who talked stuff behind my back etc. I think of it as water off a ducks back. I smile and be receptive. My friend told me not to take it so personally;as he comes into contact with him a few times and is like that with all people.And not just me. So,it made me wonder, for those of you who have no problem with someone like this- what positions can make a person just indifferent or "gruff" with others? Mars/Uranus in 1st, Mars/Uranus on the angle, Aquarius/Aries Asc? I think I would also include Uranus/Mars in 7th? What do you guys think? IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 4464 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 28, 2014 05:25 PM
The person I know who completely fits your description has Virgo Sun/Sagittarius Moon/Virgo Mercury/Scorpio Venus/Capricorn Mars.I generally notice this behaviour - being cold and monosyllabic - in Virgo Mercury men, but the guy I mentioned was particularly removed from the emotional side of things. He also had Aspergers though (which I associate with Capricorn/Virgo influence). Definitely not Mars/Uranus, Aquarius or Aries.. or Mars in the 1st or 7th.. All of these aspects/placements are dynamic and energetic - not apathetic enough to behave like an indifferent Virgo Mercury. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 827 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 28, 2014 05:32 PM
Really? Okay, I understand the Virgo part. I know Virgo Moons myself who can be quite chilly.But are these people "aware"? Or are they extra nice to someone only when you serve their agenda in some way. It took me a moment to recover, I must say. Don't know that many people who behave like that. So I was really curious of the placements. IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 4464 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 28, 2014 06:00 PM
The earthy Virgo/Capricorn types I know are completely unaware. But I think there has to be a mix between the presence of a lot of earth and the lack of water. Earthy types who do have water prominent in their chart can still be pretty emotional and expressive. His reaction suggests he's not a very sentimental or warm person and he just isn't interested in connecting or re-connecting. I don't think there is any conscious awareness on his part, that his behaviour towards you was rude.. mainly since he behaves this way habitually. This is also partially a gender thing. It's *much* less likely that you could receive this kind of reaction from a woman - even from a cold woman. Men are not as properly socialised as women. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 8872 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 28, 2014 06:00 PM
My Leo buddy could kind of fit your description, I think. He appears socially withdrawn and doesn't do small talk much. Appears aloof and careless, but I can see right through his façade, as can other people - he has Sun conjunct Chiron in the 10th (visible wound), opposite Saturn (obvious restriction/inhibition).He does have a Virgo Mercury, and a Virgo Venus and Mars conjunction. Aaand a Virgo rising, I'm 99% sure about that (could be Virgo or Libra, my bet is on Virgo with 12th house activity). He also has a Moon/Jupiter/Pluto T-square (Moon in Aquarius). IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1113 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 28, 2014 06:21 PM
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arcturiann Knowflake Posts: 448 From: Titan Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 28, 2014 06:46 PM
LOL, this is me, as soon as the conversation starts I want it to be over, especially if its chit-chat with acquaintances or people I haven't seen in a long time. I catch myself constantly looking away or making nonverbal cues that I want to be somewhere else, i'm just overall very impatient and am working on not being so visibly uncomfortable and irritated.Cap asc Uranus conj asc Mars in aries Mars square jupiter IP: Logged |
Geeky Knowflake Posts: 756 From: the Sun, vacation house on Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 28, 2014 07:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: The person I know who completely fits your description has Virgo Sun/Sagittarius Moon/Virgo Mercury/Scorpio Venus/Capricorn Mars.
Hmmm. I have 3 out of 5 and I come off very aloof and cold at times. Virgo Sun Sag Moon Scorp Venus ------------------ “Most people would rather be sheep than stand on their own with antlers on.” IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 827 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 29, 2014 03:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: The earthy Virgo/Capricorn types I know are completely unaware. But I think there has to be a mix between the presence of a lot of earth and the lack of water. Earthy types who do have water prominent in their chart can still be pretty emotional and expressive. His reaction suggests he's not a very sentimental or warm person and he just isn't interested in connecting or re-connecting. I don't think there is any conscious awareness on his part, that his behaviour towards you was rude.. mainly since he behaves this way habitually. This is also partially a gender thing. It's *much* less likely that you could receive this kind of reaction from a woman - even from a cold woman. Men are not as properly socialized as women.
Oh yes. Yes. This is true.I am looking at it from a sex perspective now. You are right.Why didn't i see this? Yes. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 827 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 29, 2014 04:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: My Leo buddy could kind of fit your description, I think. He appears socially withdrawn and doesn't do small talk much. Appears aloof and careless, but I can see right through his façade, as can other people - he has Sun conjunct Chiron in the 10th (visible wound), opposite Saturn (obvious restriction/inhibition).He does have a Virgo Mercury, and a Virgo Venus and Mars conjunction. Aaand a Virgo rising, I'm 99% sure about that (could be Virgo or Libra, my bet is on Virgo with 12th house activity). He also has a Moon/Jupiter/Pluto T-square (Moon in Aquarius).
I dated someone with Virgo Asc,Virgo Moon. I could never really "feel" them. As friends, now, its better. In a relationship,I felt that there was something missing. I guess this could also be it.
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1113 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 29, 2014 09:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: The earthy Virgo/Capricorn types I know are completely unaware. But I think there has to be a mix between the presence of a lot of earth and the lack of water. Earthy types who do have water prominent in their chart can still be pretty emotional and expressive. His reaction suggests he's not a very sentimental or warm person and he just isn't interested in connecting or re-connecting. I don't think there is any conscious awareness on his part, that his behaviour towards you was rude.. mainly since he behaves this way habitually. This is also partially a gender thing. It's *much* less likely that you could receive this kind of reaction from a woman - even from a cold woman. Men are not as properly socialised as women.
Well, I'd say there's a lack of water, or weak venus, or weak neptune. My sister has a cap Asc and even though she has jupiter in 7th in cancer, she's still very brusque. I'm on the other hand is almost water void (pluto singleton) and I would never do that to anyone because my venus, neptune and jupiter trine Asc. So sometimes even though I miss social cues, I don't shut myself off IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 4983 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 31, 2014 03:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: What Asc position indicates a very brusque individual? I met someone yesterday that I haven't seen in 11 years. We were not exactly buddies in high school, but he was Deputy-Head Prefect and I was a Prefect. It was a big deal back then So, I was a little excited that I recognized him and greeted him with warmth. But he responded with a very abrupt and empty "hi, how you doing?" and passed and I was taken aback. I was left standing there and well... I thought perhaps he is in a bad mood? didn't care for me? or was just really on his way somewhere? But all the same, you don't do that to people when they make it a point to greet you.Do you? I have not met numerous class mates and former teachers from my high school. But when I do,they ALWAYS get so excited and elated to meet someone from way back when. It's a blast from the past. And even those I didn't particularly care for, those who teased me and those who talked stuff behind my back etc. I think of it as water off a ducks back. I smile and be receptive. My friend told me not to take it so personally;as he comes into contact with him a few times and is like that with all people.And not just me. So,it made me wonder, for those of you who have no problem with someone like this- what positions can make a person just indifferent or "gruff" with others? Mars/Uranus in 1st, Mars/Uranus on the angle, Aquarius/Aries Asc? I think I would also include Uranus/Mars in 7th? What do you guys think?
LOL. It happens. A lot. I don't do it on purpose..it means I don't want to talk to you.. Cap ASC. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 827 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 31, 2014 05:13 AM
Ouch! lol IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 4983 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 31, 2014 06:11 AM
Yup. Sorry.It's the truth If I recognize someone from school or from my uni years, it won't be apparent on my face. I have a poker face, so I can make as if I didn't recognize them if I want to. If they wave at me from a distance where I don't have any alternative other than to acknowledge them, I will do just that, hi, how are you doing and continue doing whatever that I am doing. No biggie. Problem solved. I don't want to talk to you. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 8858 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 31, 2014 06:50 AM
I wonder if an afflicted ruler can indicate that? Sometimes, I feel kinda brusque and I have a Libra ascendant.IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 4983 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 01, 2014 02:08 AM
^Yeah it could be.. do you feel it part of your personality though? do you view it as a flaw?IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7631 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 01, 2014 02:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: What Asc position indicates a very brusque individual?
I think people are only brusque when they want to be left alone. I consider myself brusque no matter how I try to twist my nonverbal language. I've got Gemini ASC and it's conjunct Mars (as you know!) but also sextile everything Aries in my chart. So Mars, Aries… I can't help it. Maybe it's the Taurus in me too though. It isn't that I don't "like" people, but I feel old at my age and like niceties are a waste of time if I don't REALLY care, you know? Why act like it… a simple "hi, bye" should suffice and we can both be on our way. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 827 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 02, 2014 07:16 AM
I think there is a place for social niceties. Everything within reason.I also take into consideration that people have various moods and perhaps, on the day that you greet them, they may not be in a mood/attitude that matches yours. I don't believe that everyone who walks around should only talk to people whom they've "something" to gain from. What a wealth of people one would be missing out on. Even those that the individual may find kinship with. I think he and I are/were on differing planes on the said day. There was something in me that said "maybe you should let this pass and look indifferent? Don't greet him". But i was too excited to keep it in. My fault. My mistake. I'll pay attention to my intuition the next time that occurs. IP: Logged |