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Topic: Aqua ascendant chart ruler dilemma
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Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 446 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 28, 2014 11:43 PM
I know theres a bunch of aqua risers just like me born during the uranus/neptune conjunction and its annoying trying to figure out how to interpret this i looked up neptune conjunct chart ruler and i got "Chart Ruler/s in conjunction with Neptune Neptune can have a malefic when conjunct a ruling planet. It is often found in charts of the mentally ill, those who are drug and/or alcohol addicted, those who are aberrant, weak willed, abnormally sensitive, and unreliable. These people are often impressionable and open to being deceived and taken advantage of by others. It is not good for the mental health. [Only with the conjunction does the aforementioned apply] On the upside, the chart ruler conjunct Neptune is found in the charts of many famous composers and musicians. Neptune is the higher octave of Venus in the ability to create beauty. Poets, artists, and dancers often have this conjunction. The affairs of the house with Pisces on the cusp are likely to be of importance and focus in the life." Im literally NOTHING of that description lol and my other chart ruler "saturn" squares my sun and i couldnt find anything online about sun square chart ruler does anybody have any ideas or what sun squaring chart ruler would mean? IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 9340 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 29, 2014 12:11 AM
Uranus fits Aquarius prretty well.Two Higher Octaves Conjunct is an occurrence of Note, and should be considered as such. Doesn't happen every day, ya know, and you do recall a little thing called the Aquarian Age? Look Beyond the Book. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 1577 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 12:33 AM
The overall description above perfectly describes my friend who's an Aqua rising. IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 446 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 01:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen: The overall description above perfectly describes my friend who's an Aqua rising.
thats a horrible description lmao! so you see your friend as weak? lol im not addicted to any type of drug or alcohol im deff not weak willed im a scorpio sun with mars/moon pluto i see right through bs and im not into poetry or writing/making music hmm sometimes i think what if im actually a capricorn rising since im at 0 degree aqua so just being off a couple minutes could change it but people warm up to me easy so i dont think it would be cap rising, im just trying to find something that i can relate to based off my chart ruler IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 881 From: Pseudo-Leo with a 1st House Stellium Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 29, 2014 01:20 AM
No, you are not a Cap rising. Trust me, I'm a Cap rising, I know one when I see one. ...scorpio sun with mars/moon pluto Yeah, well I'm never going to pick a fight with you thats for sure! lol. 0 degree is like starting at beginning of the personality of an Aqua ASC, meaning that you probably will have some parts of Cap ASC in you. Part of your life goal is to learn as much as you can about aqua characteristics, such as independence, originality, and social justice. You were born on the Cusp of Mystery and Imagination (for ASC): "...there could be a struggle to balance the two very different sides of their personalities -- they are reserved yet social, security-craving but independent, and traditional yet offbeat." This is probably part of the Sun-Saturn, probably a strong need to develop a firm identity. How Sun-Saturn (in respect to chart ruler) will affect you depends on where your sun and saturn are. I'm assuming your Sun is in 9th or 10th, and Saturn in 1st (?). The answer I give you will depend on what house your Sun is in and if Saturn is in 1st like I am speculating.
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Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 446 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 01:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by BellaFenice: No, you are not a Cap rising. Trust me, I'm a Cap rising, I know one when I see one. [b]...scorpio sun with mars/moon pluto Yeah, well I'm never going to pick a fight with you thats for sure! lol. 0 degree is like starting at beginning of the personality of an Aqua ASC, meaning that you probably will have some parts of Cap ASC in you. Part of your life goal is to learn as much as you can about aqua characteristics, such as independence, originality, and social justice. You were born on the Cusp of Mystery and Imagination (for ASC): "...there could be a struggle to balance the two very different sides of their personalities -- they are reserved yet social, security-craving but independent, and traditional yet offbeat." This is probably part of the Sun-Saturn, probably a strong need to develop a firm identity. How Sun-Saturn (in respect to chart ruler) will affect you depends on where your sun and saturn are. I'm assuming your Sun is in 9th or 10th, and Saturn in 1st (?). The answer I give you will depend on what house your Sun is in and if Saturn is in 1st like I am speculating.[/B]
lmao ok so aqua rising and what you said about the two different sides i feel that pull from exactly what you mentioned wow lol peep my chart IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 881 From: Pseudo-Leo with a 1st House Stellium Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 29, 2014 02:28 AM
First off I was born on a Tuesday as well, so no wonder why we are so cool. Libra on your 9th house cusp. Basically summed up like this: "your philosophy and religion are based on the harmonious and beautiful. You like to travel for pleasure with partners or dear friends. Many people with this placement will marry in foreign countries or marry people of foreign birth. They tend to marry people of education and refinement." Ruler of 9th in 11th house: Expanding horizons, traveling, publishing, and exploring foreign cultures and belief systems serve connecting with like-minded people, attitudes to social reform, long-term hopes and dreams, You find meaning in group experience. You explore metaphysical ideas in groups. Your interest in foreign culture leads you to make friends and acquaintances. Because your Venus is in 11th house too, your friendships and love relationships allow for you to develop a greater purpose in life through philosophical and cultural differences (usually). Do you struggle with your life's direction and/or spiritual/religious beliefs? Pluto is transiting your 12th, did you recently pick up astrology? Are you currently trying to develop a stronger sense of spirituality? Chart ruler of 12th is in 1st (2nd ruler Saturn) so are you going through major changes in your life right now? That's why you asked this question. A Pluto in 12th house transit is about awakening our conscious and working towards the person we want to become and working towards a higher purpose. People with your placements (just speculating) tend to always be seeking something higher--such as a greater meaning or understanding of life and your place or purpose in it (1st vs 9th house paradox). So that is what Sun-Saturn is all about: figuring out who you really are and how you can achieve some type of purpose. Letting go of the Saturn restrictions of youth and finding your higher purpose. Wow, that was a novel. Didn't mean to write that much! lol. P.S. My Saturn sextiles your Sun. None of this was coincidental: I was supposed to answer this as a way to 'guide' your Sun. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 813 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 29, 2014 05:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: I know theres a bunch of aqua risers just like me born during the uranus/neptune conjunction and its annoying trying to figure out how to interpret this i looked up neptune conjunct chart ruler and i got "Chart Ruler/s in conjunction with Neptune Neptune can have a malefic when conjunct a ruling planet. It is often found in charts of the mentally ill, those who are drug and/or alcohol addicted, those who are aberrant, weak willed, abnormally sensitive, and unreliable. These people are often impressionable and open to being deceived and taken advantage of by others. It is not good for the mental health. [Only with the conjunction does the aforementioned apply] On the upside, the chart ruler conjunct Neptune is found in the charts of many famous composers and musicians. Neptune is the higher octave of Venus in the ability to create beauty. Poets, artists, and dancers often have this conjunction. The affairs of the house with Pisces on the cusp are likely to be of importance and focus in the life." Im literally NOTHING of that description lol and my other chart ruler "saturn" squares my sun and i couldnt find anything online about sun square chart ruler does anybody have any ideas or what sun squaring chart ruler would mean?
"Chart ruler" is a label that we confer to a planet that the Asc sign is affiliated/ attributed to. The other name for a "Chart ruler" is Ascendant ruler/ 1st house ruler/rising sign planet etc. But all are different terms for the same thing. The chart ruler placed in the house, is supposed to emphasize the issues that concern that house. They are supposed to be the dominant aspect of your outlook and your approach to the world. The planet,however, in that house is how the "experience" is likely to manifest. The more "at home",the planet is in that house,the more intense the experience. So, lets take your chart. Asc in Aquarius with Uranus in 12th. The ruler of the 1st house is in the 12th house- Automatically, we can assume that 12th house themes like isolation,seclusion, meditation, spirituality,divine connection,creativity, addictions,privacy,confinement,philanthropy etc. All "jump" to the foreground in your life experience and conscious awareness. Just from the ruler of the 1st being in 12th,we can deduce that you are sensitive to these themes, are sensitive to energy vibrations and are a person who feels deeper than what is apparent etc. Do you agree with this? But now, how do you experience these themes? In other words, how do these themes readily "jump up" into the foreground of your life experience? To find the answer,we look at the planet that rules the Asc(Uranus) as well as its house position(12th). We no longer look at it as only the "chart ruler",we want details,we want the essence of when and how the 12th house themes jump out at you. Uranus confers "genius", "brilliance" and a "maverick" approach to issues in the house to which it falls. So Uranus in 12th could confer unprecedented insight into dreams(12th house), addictions (12th house)or depression(12th house) etc. There are flashes of brilliant perspective and a very "random" approach to themes of this house.You make it a point to follow your intuition. So,you may either be very psychic (developing your inner voice) and be able to even engage in telepathic communication with others.Or you could be seen as bark-raving mad by others. If we add Neptune into the mix; since your "focus"-1st house ruler in 12th- is in the 12th house, Neptune in 12th will sensitize you even more to 12th house themes(Neptune is "at home" here and may intensify the experience). Neptune in 12th may "live" them. Not all at once,but very many will seem intertwined. So,you will go from feeling(Neptune) to insight(Uranus)to feeling to insight to feeling etc. All in one continuous circular flow. And all done within that creative part of the brain (12th house). I can give you a practical example if you want.But I think this is already an essay. Lol IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 446 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 12:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by BellaFenice: First off I was born on a Tuesday as well, so no wonder why we are so cool. Libra on your 9th house cusp. Basically summed up like this: "your philosophy and religion are based on the harmonious and beautiful. You like to travel for pleasure with partners or dear friends. Many people with this placement will marry in foreign countries or marry people of foreign birth. They tend to marry people of education and refinement." Ruler of 9th in 11th house: Expanding horizons, traveling, publishing, and exploring foreign cultures and belief systems serve connecting with like-minded people, attitudes to social reform, long-term hopes and dreams, You find meaning in group experience. You explore metaphysical ideas in groups. Your interest in foreign culture leads you to make friends and acquaintances. Because your Venus is in 11th house too, your friendships and love relationships allow for you to develop a greater purpose in life through philosophical and cultural differences (usually). Do you struggle with your life's direction and/or spiritual/religious beliefs? Pluto is transiting your 12th, did you recently pick up astrology? Are you currently trying to develop a stronger sense of spirituality? Chart ruler of 12th is in 1st (2nd ruler Saturn) so are you going through major changes in your life right now? That's why you asked this question. A Pluto in 12th house transit is about awakening our conscious and working towards the person we want to become and working towards a higher purpose. People with your placements (just speculating) tend to always be seeking something higher--such as a greater meaning or understanding of life and your place or purpose in it (1st vs 9th house paradox). So that is what Sun-Saturn is all about: figuring out who you really are and how you can achieve some type of purpose. Letting go of the Saturn restrictions of youth and finding your higher purpose. Wow, that was a novel. Didn't mean to write that much! lol. P.S. My Saturn sextiles your Sun. None of this was coincidental: I was supposed to answer this as a way to 'guide' your Sun.
So your my fellow tuesdayer lmao everything you said i really relate to! I love to travel and since i was young i have traveled to about 7 states already i also love to be in groups i like sharing ideas and working toward things as a team, i also kind of am struggling with my life position i just feel very lonely not having my girlfriend around i have plenty of friends but its just not the same feeling and i kno i shouldnt be feeling like that but i was with her for 3 years and we literally were together everyday of those 3 years it was a very intense relationship and all the pluto in my chart makes it hard for me to let it go :/ other than that im currently going to college for criminal justice to become a police officer like my father so im just focused on getting as big and strong as possible to help with the job and yes i did learn about astrology around january and ever since i love to learn as much as possible about it these past 4 months iv just been thinking about who i really am and what i want to achieve with my life im still not sure yet but i feel like im on the right path even though its rocky lol and thanks for your in depth answer i really appreciate it you did give my sun some guidance you just helped show me that what im feeling and going through right now needs to happen so i can grow more thanks IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 881 From: Pseudo-Leo with a 1st House Stellium Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 29, 2014 07:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: So your my fellow tuesdayer lmao everything you said i really relate to! I love to travel and since i was young i have traveled to about 7 states already i also love to be in groups i like sharing ideas and working toward things as a team, i also kind of am struggling with my life position i just feel very lonely not having my girlfriend around i have plenty of friends but its just not the same feeling and i kno i shouldnt be feeling like that but i was with her for 3 years and we literally were together everyday of those 3 years it was a very intense relationship and all the pluto in my chart makes it hard for me to let it go :/ other than that im currently going to college for criminal justice to become a police officer like my father so im just focused on getting as big and strong as possible to help with the job and yes i did learn about astrology around january and ever since i love to learn as much as possible about it these past 4 months iv just been thinking about who i really am and what i want to achieve with my life im still not sure yet but i feel like im on the right path even though its rocky lol and thanks for your in depth answer i really appreciate it you did give my sun some guidance you just helped show me that what im feeling and going through right now needs to happen so i can grow more thanks
You are welcome. i also kind of am struggling with my life position i just feel very lonely not having my girlfriend around i have plenty of friends but its just not the same feeling and i kno i shouldnt be feeling like that but i was with her for 3 years and we literally were together everyday of those 3 years it was a very intense relationship and all the pluto in my chart makes it hard for me to let it go :/ Have you checked your transits? You might be going through a tough transit that is making you feel down and stuck in the past. The recent Venus in Cancer probably didn't help either. Having a lot of water and Pluto seals the deal though. The only advice I can give you is to take it day by day, and focus more on yourself. Maybe the two of you will get back together, but when reading this the universe is clearly calling you to work on being okay with being alone. Just try and channel your intensity on the activities you enjoy doing, and let fate decide what happens. Another thing: sometimes when our vision is so narrow we can't see the potential good things and future. While your relationship sounded really special, if you keep yourself stuck in the past you may miss out on something better. You never know when you meet someone special, the universe is weird in that way. other than that im currently going to college for criminal justice to become a police officer like my father so im just focused on getting as big and strong as possible to help with the job Now I really won't mess with you! lol. You wouldn't happen to be going to Rutgers would you? I know its in New Brunswick so I figured I'd ask (I promise I'm not trying to stalk you though!). My dad went there for a little bit, but left after 2 years and transferred out west for his baseball career. i did learn about astrology around january and ever since i love to learn as much as possible about it these past 4 months Clearly I'm a psychic. This happens to a lot of people during Pluto in 12th, I got into astrology then too. Another thing to consider is Sun-Saturn is often about the child-father relationship. That could also give you more insight on the Saturn Sun aspect.
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