posted July 29, 2014 05:42 PM            

Experiences and insights?

posted July 29, 2014 05:52 PM            

The key to getting it to submit is to be in complete and total control. Find your true self and don't ever let that go. Remember where you come from and all that you've overcome. Positvity changes things. Don't dwell on the past or things that aren't in your control, the past is the past and everything has reason. I've gone through tremendous hurt and self issues and it's helped me see the light.

I think the 12th house is the most beautiful and misunderstood house!

posted July 29, 2014 06:08 PM            

12th house people I think are exceptional. They have to deal with tremendous internal and external challenges. Learning that things are outside of your control and working with the circumstances you have. Letting go of your fears and facing the things that terrify you the most. Finding your higher power and aligning them with the quest for self actualization and spiritual goals.

Having Uranus in 12th though is a real mindf@ck, I will say that. But going through a really difficult Pluto in 12th transit was worth it in the long run. Things needed to come to light in my life and change.

posted July 29, 2014 06:21 PM            

Venus / mercury / Mars (last two conjunct)

Knowing who I wanted to be, personality, and not being able to fulfill it.

Not feeling like I was an effective communicator (still struggle)

Feeling like an outcast

Not understanding my own actions or how to change them

Bad relationship patterns

(Virgo) internalized criticism (still struggle!)

Just generally feeling like a 3 if everyone else is a 1 or a 2

Having crazy intuition but when others are called out or I voiced it, it was denied, then I doubted my intuition
Intuitively knowing that I'm a bit different and not accepting as a treasure and actually identifying it as a large fault

Escapism... Big big big time!
Still a struggle on occasion. Just wanting to immediately drop stressful/frustrating things

Once getting a grip on *almost* all of those things I feel more capable of bringing out gifts that the 12th offers and putting them into the world, into my life, to do positive things. To actually be able to USE that energy rather than it running rampant and my not understanding what the heck is wrong.

posted July 29, 2014 06:30 PM            

They say athletes can have active twelfth houses so there can be a physical component that isn't always hidden. It's like superhuman in some cases.

posted July 29, 2014 06:34 PM            

I don't know why but the 12th house reminds me of criminals(like murderers, rapist, etc) who turn around after being imprisoned.

posted July 29, 2014 06:40 PM            

I can see that scenario but I also see plenty of folks who never get in trouble to begin with and are just gifted in some extraordinary way.

posted July 29, 2014 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
No I mean like bettering themselves spiritually, not religious necessarily but just the whole spirit is lifted from the clouded darkness. I used prison as an analogy for us 12th housers.

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posted July 29, 2014 06:52 PM            

I don't know his birth TIME, so houses are unknown but that might be like a transit playing a part in that also. Possibly Pluto? (transformation)

Idk... Just throwing it out there.

posted July 29, 2014 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Well, that's Pisces.

I mean, weird things happen with Pisces.

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Exactly, I don't think you can know beforehand what lies in a person's 12th...
Or patterns of the 12th.

posted July 29, 2014 07:21 PM            

I am just saying it is one possible way 12th house shows up - not that every twelfth houser is a savant. Obviously we all aren't!

What about Mars in the twelfth?

It can easily show up in any twelfth house ruled activity even ending up in the prisons, working in a hospital, social worker, nurse, prison worker, librarian or even someone in the midst of a serious mental illness - even to the point they are extremely disabled.

I looked at Elizabeth Smart's chart because she is one person that I can think off the top of my head that was help captive by others and she has Neptune in her twelfth house. I was expecting to see a bit more but at least there's something.

posted July 30, 2014 01:27 PM            

As far as strength, I can be pretty strong but also really weak. I used to be extremely weak physically and my relatives compared me to a feather.

I am much stronger now, so I am experiencing the other side of things, but I am not used to being able to stand up to people. Being a feather weight did not give me much fortitude. So I am still trying to be assertive without feeling on the verge of a panic attack. Still negotiating that feat.

I know some of you struggle with this to a certain degree - confronting people and what not. It just makes me feel sorta breathless, having to do this. I could probably really benefit from assertiveness training. This is probably what I need and afterward I can unleash the full power of the twelfth house bwaahahaha. Anyone relate?

posted July 30, 2014 02:32 PM            

Anyone wanna trade some of their 12H stuff with my 6H stuff?
I bet not.

posted July 30, 2014 03:24 PM            

I am somewhat mystified by your post
You experience the same with your 6h stellium?
I keep some of my 12h cards in my hand btw

So...