posted July 29, 2014 08:12 PM            

I've got my 12th ruler in the 12th (Mercury), and my 6th ruler in the 6th (Jupiter). One of the main things that I've noticed is that I don't seem to have as much of the negative sides of those houses as some do. Those houses seem to have their positive sides strengthened. Is that from the HR being in the house?

posted July 29, 2014 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Like when "Elvis in in the house?"

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LMAO. That cracked me up.

posted July 29, 2014 11:56 PM            

I have read that this means i would like to connect with people's feelings through sex, specifically orgasms

And it gives very heightened senses.

posted July 30, 2014 01:19 AM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I have my 12H ruler, Pluto, in the 12th [Scorpio]. Pluto rules my Venus, Mercury, NN, and Jupiter. Without a doubt, Scorpio and 12th house issues have been intensely magnified through my life - I must agree with previous comments.

I feel that typically, having Pluto here would mean a total 'lock up' of Plutonian powers, but in my case, I feel this placement makes Pluto stronger in a unique way, with more of a 12H emphasis on how it works... and true to the placement, I am my most powerful when I am regenerating myself, letting go vs. holding on, and reaching out to cure others' ills.

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That would be a very powerful placement! Do you meditate a lot to try to get better control or a good grasp on that energy to learn how to direct it as much as possible, to use it for good?
That is one placement that could be powerfully destructive if someone tried to ignore or deny the path Pluto was leading them down, good thing you seem to accept and respect the energy!

posted July 31, 2014 11:13 AM            

I think not,I think it becomes lethargic-unless on an angle.

I have Jupiter in 8th(the house house of Sagittarius)I think I was very "righteous" about the theoretical views I held of this house and its issues.

The reason I say that is because it took a conjunction from transiting Pluto to "shake me up". My belief system changed and I started to assume more conscious revelations.

I think for someone with Jupiter(on the cusp of 7th house Sagittarius) the transits can shift them "inside out".

More so than my internal change,i think their "physical" life may have been altered completely and psychological change was necessary to "catch" up with their "new" perspective.

posted July 31, 2014 11:40 AM            

Umm. Yeah, it takes over the 6H. I'm very complacent and lazy. I don't like working. I don't like having to do chores. And I try to avoid crises in my life although they *always* happen no matter how hard I try to bury my head in the sand - I have a Scorpio stellium in that house, following Venus, which I personally experience as repressed energy.

I'm not sure I'm "lucky" when it comes to 6H stuff. Err, I have health problems, and I have overall problems functioning in my daily life due to mental problems (overwhelming anxiety and apathy mostly). That's probably because of all the other Scorpio stuff being afflicted in that house.

Meh.

posted July 31, 2014 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I have always wondered why people b*tch and moan about Saturn in 11H! It's a dignified placement? I have never read anything bad about this. I have Saturn in Leo 11H and I think it's a great placement! Yes, I have to work a tad harder on some "Leo things" but it gives me stamina and a very refined persona.

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I have Saturn in 11th, and I've always wondered the same thing. It seems like it should be a good placement since the 11th is the house of Aquarius and Saturn is its traditional ruler. A lot of people also think it makes a person antisocial or friendless, but that's not true in most of the people I know with it. You can go to astrotheme and look at the list of celebrities with Saturn in 11th and there are thousands! They obviously aren't antisocial friendless hermits.

The only thing "antisocial" about me is that I don't do social networking. I like my privacy and have no interest in putting my every thought or private moment on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram. Just not my thing. That's most likely how my Gemini Saturn in 11th materializes.

@DeepFreeze
My 12th ruler in 12th is also widely conjunct my Mars in 12th. I know exactly what you mean about overdrive!

posted July 31, 2014 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
That would be a very powerful placement! Do you meditate a lot to try to get better control or a good grasp on that energy to learn how to direct it as much as possible, to use it for good? That is one placement that could be powerfully destructive if someone tried to ignore or deny the path Pluto was leading them down, good thing you seem to accept and respect the energy!

I have Pluto on AC and I'm well of what Pluto does if you ignore it's guidance....ouch!

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I definitely have sensed both the capability for power and destruction with this placement. As I get older, I'm learning how to better harness and recognize the power of this placement. I've yet to totally grasp it but I'm getting there. I feel it also means that all my potential for psychological healing comes from within. I have the capacity to transcend and be spiritually reborn. It's the journey to this point that can be exhausting.

posted July 31, 2014 03:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
I have Saturn in 11th, and I've always wondered the same thing. It seems like it should be a good placement since the 11th is the house of Aquarius and Saturn is its traditional ruler. A lot of people also think it makes a person antisocial or friendless, but that's not true in most of the people I know with it. You can go to astrotheme and look at the list of celebrities with Saturn in 11th and there are thousands! They obviously aren't antisocial friendless hermits.

The only thing "antisocial" about me is that I don't do social networking. I like my privacy and have no interest in putting my every thought or private moment on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram. Just not my thing. That's most likely how my Gemini Saturn in 11th materializes.

[b]@DeepFreeze
My 12th ruler in 12th is also widely conjunct my Mars in 12th. I know exactly what you mean about overdrive!

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posted July 31, 2014 03:53 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Hmmm I don't like that either...the whole Insta/Facebook/Twitter/Youtube thing so I guess that would make me "antisocial" in that regard but my Sun is in 11H as well as Saturn so I LOVE being out and about, among people.

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Sun in 11th is nice! Happy place for the Sun. My 11th house Saturn rules my DC/ 7th house, so that helps mine. It makes me very attracted to 11th house/ Aquarius/Uranian energy. Plus Uranus rules my 8th, too, so that adds to it even more.

Jupiter in 9th sounds great. Jupiter is hands down my favorite planet, but it's hard to not love Jupiter. Someone who's had a very strong spiritual impact on me has his 9th house Jupiter conjunct my Sun and Venus 0°. It sits right between both of them and they're only 1° apart. His 9th house Jupiter lights me up like the 4th of July.