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theunknown
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posted July 30, 2014 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So i had a friend who is cap sun, mercury, venus and mars, Leo Moon, scorpio rising.

We were very close until a few months a go when he just randomly stopped responding to my text. Being the usual aqua, I just move on with my life but today I found out he also unfriended me on facebook.

I am really confused if I did anythind bad to him because honestly we never had any argument or disagreement that I was aware of.

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Doux Rêve
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posted July 30, 2014 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know.
He's probably mad at you for some reason, or really annoyed.

If you care to find out, try to contact him.
If not, simply remove him from your thoughts.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 30, 2014 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did that to an Aqua Sun, Virgo Moon.

i think he may be ****** off at something you did. lol

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theunknown
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posted July 30, 2014 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I did that to an Aqua Sun, Virgo Moon.

i think he may be ****** off at something you did. lol


The real question is what. He never communicated with me any disagreement. And we were really good friend.

I texted him today and said I apologize if I ever offended him.

Is this a leo moon thing?

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PisceanDream
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posted July 30, 2014 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check for Uranus aspects to the personal planets (his natal and synastry). These people tend to act suddenly. Sometimes get up and go for a while then linger back.

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posted July 30, 2014 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm starting to find that caps are very passive aggressive..my only suggestion would be to CALL him & ask him what's up. Notice the emphasis on call because texting in my opinion is not an effective way to communicate big issues.

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posted July 30, 2014 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by babybull82:
I'm starting to find that caps are very passive aggressive..my only suggestion would be to CALL him & ask him what's up. Notice the emphasis on call because texting in my opinion is not an effective way to communicate big issues.


Personally, the MOST passive-aggressive based on my experiences with them.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 30, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
The real question is what. He never communicated with me any disagreement. And we were really good friend.

I texted him today and said I apologize if I ever offended him.

Is this a leo moon thing?


Well,I never told the Aquarius what they did to have me cut them off. I just didn't think that they'd be receptive and "get" it.

They were always so emotionally vacant.I just didn't want to be told that I am being a "drama king" or whatever.

You can try though.I am a Cancer Moon myself and sometimes I go a bit "off the bend" and start thinking that people are "against me" when they say or do something intensive.

I start to regurgitate small things they did and start to count them. Then i conclude that they were NEVER my friend and I can never depend on them.This can happen overnight and it can go to extremes.

Afterwards,I make a decision to just isolate them from my life; no explanation,nothing....

The Taurus Moon friend of mine just "got" this treatment after a fight. But he would not accept the silent treatment and distance thing I gave him and so, he used to come to my flat, after I iced him off, to "have it out".

I don't know what he could see, but this method NEVER worked with him And our fights were brutal- with a whole lot of things being said.But making up was inevitable.

Sometimes close platonic friendships have the two people concerned behave like they are in a romantic relationship. People become increasingly sensitive to each other.

You can try to go to him and "have it out". I don't know how your buddy will respond though.....

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posted July 30, 2014 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not a Cap sun…but have a few Cap placements….

I am guilty of being passive-aggressive. I too, cut ppl off with the "slip away" maneuver. Can't quite initiate that awkward (but more mature) angle of confronting an issue I have with someone. Usually someone really annoys the hell out of me, or proves to reveal something about them that has me lose respect or trust. So I give the cold shoulder and let it fizzle out. Grant it, I am not squeaky clean! So it's not like I'm a "high and mighty" personality. And when ppl do it to me, it's rough! I can dish it, but I'm furious when I have to take it!


However, IF someone decides to inquire the why's of my actions..then I will talk. I just don't step up and address things head-on that might even be fixable. It depends. Now with an Aries moon one may think I would come forth, woman-up and let it rip! But I have a tight Moon/Venus square, Capricorn traits are for the most part there regardless. The pessimism, urge to climb stations in life. So, for me, if I see an old friend is complacent in their behaviors or lifestyle, I easily do a 180 and pivot away.

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posted July 30, 2014 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Usually if someone is passive aggressive they are trying to get a reaction out of another person, provoking them, taunting them or whatever.

If someone cuts you off, they don't care what your reaction is, they're already out the door.

Caps can be conflict avoidant, especially once they've decided to move on...I've seen and done that many times. And I think, sometimes we underestimate how much others might take offense: if we don't have high self-esteem, and many Caps don't, then we assume we can just leave without anyone noticing or caring.

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theunknown
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posted July 30, 2014 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plutonian_Gal8:
I am not a Cap sun…but have a few Cap placements….

I am guilty of being passive-aggressive. I too, cut ppl off with the "slip away" maneuver. Can't quite initiate that awkward (but more mature) angle of confronting an issue I have with someone. Usually someone really annoys the hell out of me, or proves to reveal something about them that has me lose respect or trust. So I give the cold shoulder and let it fizzle out. Grant it, I am not squeaky clean! So it's not like I'm a "high and mighty" personality. And when ppl do it to me, it's rough! I can dish it, but I'm furious when I have to take it!


However, IF someone decides to inquire the why's of my actions..then I will talk. I just don't step up and address things head-on that might even be fixable. It depends. Now with an Aries moon one may think I would come forth, woman-up and let it rip! But I have a tight Moon/Venus square, Capricorn traits are for the most part there regardless. The pessimism, urge to climb stations in life. So, for me, if I see an old friend is complacent in their behaviors or lifestyle, I easily do a 180 and pivot away.


well,
i have cap stellium so i do understand cap mentality. With that said, we had really good friendship and never argued or anything. As a cap venus and mars, (also square aries moon), I would have a least addressed it at some point. Everything seems too sudden.

He also has moon square pluto and I don't know if I suffocate him in any way by trying to talk it out.

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posted July 30, 2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
well,
i have cap stellium so i do understand cap mentality. With that said, we had really good friendship and never argued or anything. As a cap venus and mars, (also square aries moon), I would have a least addressed it at some point. Everything seems too sudden.

He also has moon square pluto and I don't know if I suffocate him in any way by trying to talk it out.


Something about this really SCREAMS Uranus. The coldness, detachedness, and need to break away. Transit, progressive, or natal. It has to be there somehow. All my toughest, hardest, and most painful relationships have been with Capricorns, I both know them so well and hardly at all the same time as I have Capricorn in the 12th and very song Saturnine influence. I too am going through something similar to this with a Capricorn. I just decided to give Uranus a look at turns out it squares his Capricorn Merc, it has passed squaring his Sun and in the future will oppose his moon which already squares Uranus and Neptune in the natal.

If it's something you care to talk about, which it seems that it is, just do it. You have nothing to lose.

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usc277
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posted July 30, 2014 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for usc277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its a Leo moon thing...females are exceptionally talented with it

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posted July 30, 2014 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, hey how can we just assign "it's a [this] thing" without knowing the backstory.

To you, you don't think you had a disagreement or argument but clearly there's a chunk missing from this inquiry. Nobody just up and leaves because. Like, "Oh, I scheduled to cut you off at this time. BYE FELICIA!" And if they do then everyone else is right - he just wants a reaction out of you which, yes, I'll concede Leos/Moons can do when they feel they're not getting as much attention as they're giving or as they want.

What did you talk about before he 86ed you? I mean verbatim. What did you say, how often did you talk?

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posted July 30, 2014 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I did that to an Aqua Sun, Virgo Moon.

i think he may be ****** off at something you did. lol


Same here. Not that I'm a star or anything. Some people say I talk too much, and/or is annoying.

But anyway, the Aqua-Virgo was moody (I hate this in people), whiny, and snappish. So I cut this off.

As a rule (Pluto in the 1st?), I don't like people to know why they upset me - too much power to them. I smile through hurt, wait for something innocuous, then strike to cover my tracks. vhm, they will never know.

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posted July 30, 2014 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do that a LOT to people... A lot.
Like... 10 just recently. lol

Almost all won't have clue why but I have my reasons.
Maybe they are flaky / they've been inconsistent
Associated with people that I don't care to have association with

Sometimes it's just because... Idk... I don't trust them / get a funky vibe

Libra rising
Leo sun
Gemini moon

Pluto/asc
And Uranus trine moon could be in my chart... Idk.
Somehow Leo strikes me as maybe at least playing some kind of role in it

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posted July 30, 2014 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deptic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I do that a LOT to people... A lot.
Like... 10 just recently. lol

Almost all won't have clue why but I have my reasons.
Maybe they are flaky / they've been inconsistent
Associated with people that I don't care to have association with

Sometimes it's just because... Idk... I don't trust them / get a funky vibe

Libra rising
Leo sun
Gemini moon

Pluto/asc
And Uranus trine moon could be in my chart... Idk.
Somehow Leo strikes me as maybe at least playing some kind of role in it


Hahaha that's so me. I don't really trust em to that no more. Or if I kinda feel they using me or something. Even tho no signs of it but I feel something is up so I keep em distant until they prove me wrong

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posted July 30, 2014 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hahaha that's so me. I don't really trust em to that no more. Or if I kinda feel they using me or something. Even tho no signs of it but I feel something is up so I keep em distant until they prove me wrong

This guy I know would ignore my text if he didn't feel like dealing with me. I asked him a question a few weeks ago. I KNOW he got the text and had time etc. I gave him a good three days. But also remember it's not the first time he's done that stuff so just boom...
Gone. He's like that sometimes.
MY friends get back to me at least at some point. If it's obvious that they ignore me then they are no friends of mine. I took out another guy with him because they are like brothers and I wasn't terribly close so he got axed as well. And his sister... And another guy that's buddies with them and I wasn't really close to any of them so I said screw it. Might as well. I won't miss em.

And that my friends is where "DeepFreeze" comes from.

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posted July 30, 2014 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Well, hey how can we just assign "it's a [this] thing" without knowing the backstory.

To you, you don't think you had a disagreement or argument but clearly there's a chunk missing from this inquiry. Nobody just up and leaves because. Like, "Oh, I scheduled to cut you off at this time. BYE FELICIA!" And if they do then everyone else is right - he just wants a reaction out of you which, yes, I'll concede Leos/Moons can do when they feel they're not getting as much attention as they're giving or as they want.

What did you talk about before he 86ed you? I mean verbatim. What did you say, how often did you talk?



Hi Hanna,

I talked about apply for a program. He told me I was smart enough to get it. Then we didn't talk for a while.

I talked to his best friend since trade school today and she said she doubted he's mad at me because typically if he is mad at someone, everyone knows. He is a leo moon with scorpio rising so his emotions are more pronounced.

I asked the leo moon question because I know leo moon can sulk some times.

Any way, his best friend told me he went through lots of things lately and if might've been an accident deleting me on FB. Idk. I'm just gonna give him a call this weekend.

I don't mean to blame anything because he's a great person and I want him in my life. My cap venus and mars conjunct his mars and venus and neither if us is flaky so I'm just really concerned if loosing a friend

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posted July 30, 2014 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I do that a LOT to people... A lot.
Like... 10 just recently. lol

Almost all won't have clue why but I have my reasons.
Maybe they are flaky / they've been inconsistent
Associated with people that I don't care to have association with

Sometimes it's just because... Idk... I don't trust them / get a funky vibe

Libra rising
Leo sun
Gemini moon

Pluto/asc
And Uranus trine moon could be in my chart... Idk.
Somehow Leo strikes me as maybe at least playing some kind of role in it



And you fail to mention that this could be your Venus and mars in virgo...

Hahaha

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posted July 30, 2014 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
[b]I do that a LOT to people... A lot.
Like... 10 just recently. lol

Almost all won't have clue why but I have my reasons.
Maybe they are flaky / they've been inconsistent
Associated with people that I don't care to have association with

Sometimes it's just because... Idk... I don't trust them / get a funky vibe

Libra rising
Leo sun
Gemini moon

Pluto/asc
And Uranus trine moon could be in my chart... Idk.
Somehow Leo strikes me as maybe at least playing some kind of role in it



And you fail to mention that this could be your Venus and mars in virgo...

Hahaha[/B][/QUOTE]

lol

I have so many things that can contribute to things. It's crazy. Makes it difficult to separate out things sometimes. Virgo, despite myself having three planets there, still confuses me at times.

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posted July 30, 2014 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theunknown:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hannaramaa:
[b]Well, hey how can we just assign "it's a [this] thing" without knowing the backstory.

To you, you don't think you had a disagreement or argument but clearly there's a chunk missing from this inquiry. Nobody just up and leaves because. Like, "Oh, I scheduled to cut you off at this time. BYE FELICIA!" And if they do then everyone else is right - he just wants a reaction out of you which, yes, I'll concede Leos/Moons can do when they feel they're not getting as much attention as they're giving or as they want.

What did you talk about before he 86ed you? I mean verbatim. What did you say, how often did you talk?



Hi Hanna,

I talked about apply for a program. He told me I was smart enough to get it. Then we didn't talk for a while.

I talked to his best friend since trade school today and she said she doubted he's mad at me because typically if he is mad at someone, everyone knows. He is a leo moon with scorpio rising so his emotions are more pronounced.

I asked the leo moon question because I know leo moon can sulk some times.

Any way, his best friend told me he went through lots of things lately and if might've been an accident deleting me on FB. Idk. I'm just gonna give him a call this weekend.

I don't mean to blame anything because he's a great person and I want him in my life. My cap venus and mars conjunct his mars and venus and neither if us is flaky so I'm just really concerned if loosing a friend

[/B][/QUOTE]

Yes...call him!!!!!. I feel you. I hope things clear up and you get your friend back.

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posted July 30, 2014 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
lol

I have so many things that can contribute to things. It's crazy. Makes it difficult to separate out things sometimes. Virgo, despite myself having three planets there, still confuses me at times.


Yeah you know, I do feel that way about my virgo sun...it's like an enigma.

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