posted July 30, 2014 04:21 PM              

In terms of how it feels, it's really confusing. At times, I feel like there's something wrong with me. I find myself (keyword: find) in romantic involvements very easily. I fall in "like" very easily and I am intrigued and thrilled with the person for as long as I can handle them (which is not long) then I start to get bored, sick of them, I see their flaws and either I feel I can't love them or be affectionate towards them or attracted to them or I feel like I'm attracted to them but they don't understand me. I can't connect with them emotionally and therefore I feel like the bond isn't strong enough to survive time and the general course of an enduring relationship. This realization always comes after I end it or things go wrong so I escape it. I realize that I *need* something serious (Venus conj Saturn)but I always FIND myself in meaningless romantic encounters and it's fun while it lasts.

My brother also has this aspect. And I am sad to say that he is a cheater. He finds it very hard to commit and often feels the need to be with many different women. His moon is in Cancer while Venus is in Aries so it's a very very very harsh aspect. He is a Casanova, a charmer, and "gets" any girl he wants. But she will probably (and very quickly) be replaced. Then again, he is a mess altogether and is not very strong-willed, I would say. SO don't let this be a template for this aspect but it is a way it can manifest.

I have heard things about them hating women or whatever, but I believe this would need more than just this aspect.

JFK also had it and he was a cheater as well... I am not though, hehe, thank you SATURN. Personally, I realized that almost all the people I've been involved with that I have strong feelings for either trine my moon or sextile my venus or something of that sort. It is better that way, to be honest, than to feel one connection strongly due to a conjunction while the other suffers due to a square. It's tough. I have my moon in Gemini and Venus in Pisces. So I almost always feel bad when I get bored. And I realize that the emotional types really irk me, the moment I hear that a guy likes me a lot and thinks I'm the one. I cringe and slowly slip away. Because my Gem moon is like "What the f*ck?! I've known you for a week!" while my Venus is all "awwwww". So... It's bad. No one is good enough for me. The ones I truly and deeply loved were Capricorn and Saturn strong, although there was no formal/functional relationship in the mix.

That's my take on it for now. If there's anything else you wanna know, please ask.

posted July 30, 2014 04:31 PM            

I knew a guy who had the square and his girlfriend actually cheated on him so it's interesting you mention it as a cheater aspect. I just keep thinking of him and this aspect, I don't know why, but I figure if I research it it will help me understand better. I think romantic relationships with women are hard for him. He has Venus square Mars too.

One of my guy friends has Moon trine Venus and girls chase after him like crazy. He's an Aquarius, and it's the most bizarre thing I've ever witnessed because he doesn't do anything out of the ordinary to get that kind of attention, but girls easily flock to him.

posted July 30, 2014 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
My boys ex girlfriend has venus in gemini square moon in pisces and she cheated on him multiple times

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posted July 30, 2014 04:46 PM              

When I ask my brother why he breaks up with his loving girlfriend so often and why he commits then breaks it off to be with other girls or whatever, he says "I can't help it. I just feel like I can't commit. I just feel like I don't wanna be in a relationship. Sometimes, I feel trapped and I just wanna be on my own. I *know* it's messed up. But I just wanna have fun."

There is the knowledge that it's wrong. They are not oblivious by any means but the two energies working against each other in the natal chart are bad enough but when in synastry a planet activates it with a conjunction to one and square to another, I think it'll intensify those feelings.

I always scold him for it knowing that I have that aspect myself but then again that's why I avoid relationships altogether; they go nowhere for me and only feel good for a little while then I leave. He feels bad and very confused as to why he feels this way, but he succumbs to it. Doesn't try to change it and just says "that's me, that's how I feel, can't help it" and he just does what comes naturally to him instead of trying to control it.

Personally, I will not stop myself from talking to other men even if I am in love with a man but there is no explicit commitment between us. One of the Capricorn folk I was talking about never wanted to commit because of long distance but still loved me and I love him back. We had breaks of letting go then getting back to each other. In almost every break we had (which were many)there was a guy filling in the gap and I didn't think twice about seeing other guys even though I *loved* him. Unfortunately, my love comes with duty so I could never allow myself to completely be with someone else to begin with so my moon sq venus just had fun and called it a day.

My brother's case however is very different from mine. He has cheated. And can still be very sketchy even though he is committed (talking to girls and flirting etc). That is something I can never do. Once I commit, I am in there for good.

I think Saturn would be a very good support to the harshness of this aspect if it is conjunct the ASC or Sun or even Venus/Moon just to ensure that extra dose of duty and commitment towards the person they're involved with.

posted July 30, 2014 04:54 PM              

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Wow, thanks for the fast reply!

I knew a guy who had the square and his girlfriend actually cheated on him so it's interesting you mention it as a cheater aspect.

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posted July 30, 2014 04:57 PM            

My advice: if he feels sketchy, he probably is. This isn't a Neptune aspect where delusion is involved. It's much clearer than that. Especially if the square is in water/earth with fire."

He had Sun trine Saturn, Moon conjunct Saturn, and Venus square Saturn.

I find it so fascinating reading your interpretation because it's almost like since he didn't reflect those negative qualities you listed (or they came out in different ways) he attracts women who DO. Because even though we were kind of "talking" or liked each other, i never brought up being in a relationship and thus I was free to date whomever. One day I told him and he wasn't expecting that, but there was just something about him that made it hard to open up to.

posted July 30, 2014 04:58 PM            

He married her three years later. He's completely devoted to her and does anything possible to make sure she's happy. They're still together more than a decade later and are very much in love.

I also have this aspect and have never cheated on anyone. I always end a relationship if I no longer have feelings for them.

Moon square venus makes it difficult, though not impossible, to find someone who satisfies both your venus and your moon. Often times, you will find a partner who satisfies the moon, but not the venus and vice versa. This is the problem I've run into in my relationships, but even if the guy p*sses me off, I simply make a clean break and move on. Being unhappy in a relationship is never an excuse to cheat.

posted July 30, 2014 05:00 PM            

Then I thought, naah, don't be so harsh/cynical.

But hey, looks like there's definitely some truth to it.

A recent experience actually validates that point, also.

posted July 30, 2014 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I think the fact that he has Venus square Mars is very telling. It's usually associated with or manifests as romantic/sexual awkwardness. I know someone who has that aspect and they aren't really good with the ladies or anything like that. It creates a very odd tension between Venus and Mars so perhaps it plays out differently since his Venus is really afflicted by both feminine and masculine energies. Love is just a perplexing turf for someone with these aspects as their emotional needs and sexual needs are at odds with their romantic needs. I wonder whether the ex-girlfriend had an opposition to his Venus which it would absolutely kill the synastry.

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posted July 30, 2014 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
My brother has this aspect. He's very shy and didn't have his first girlfriend until the age of 21….never even held hands with a girl before.

He married her three years later. He's completely devoted to her and does anything possible to make sure she's happy. They're still together more than a decade later and are very much in love.

I also have this aspect and have never cheated on anyone. I always end a relationship if I no longer have feelings for them.

Moon square venus makes it difficult, though not impossible, to find someone who satisfies both your venus and your moon. Often times, you will find a partner who satisfies the moon, but not the venus and vice versa. This is the problem I've run into in my relationships, but even if the guy p*sses me off, I simply make a clean break and move on. Being unhappy in a relationship is never an excuse to cheat.

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How do you know what's getting satisfied when?

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posted July 30, 2014 05:16 PM            

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It's probably one of the worst aspects to have. If not for the person themselves, for the people they get involved with. Ew.

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