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charlie
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posted August 04, 2014 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and I am not sure if it's a problem that needs to be fixed or if it's acceptable and "me"?

Trait:

I am SUPER sensitive with words. How they are used. When they are used. Why they are used. In what patterns they have been used previously compared to now. Tone of voice along with words or tone of voice along with established patterns etc etc etc etc etc

You can guess the rest but this is how I am. It's not a mental process like this, it just happens when I am around people that speak.

What this does is that NOTHING being said will escape me. Or you. So choose your words very very very wisely around me. Don't lie-I will know based on myriads of patterns. And don't not tell me things, which is not lying, because based on your previous behaviour or any other pattern, I will know.

Perhaps I should have been a cop instead??

It feels like it's borderline-something but I am not sure..it's painful sometimes as I have a hard time detaching from words but when it comes to emotions I am the exact opposite.


Darn it!! Should I repost elsewhere??? *curses* I have Mercury quintile Chiron!! That makes it an astrological problem

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BellaFenice
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posted August 04, 2014 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury-Pluto?

I get what you are saying though. Not a bad trait to have, you can really see the motives of others and protect yourself.

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charlie
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posted August 04, 2014 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Mercury-Pluto?

I get what you are saying though. Not a bad trait to have, you can really see the motives of others and protect yourself.


They are square

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Faith
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posted August 04, 2014 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit: You know, I think I caught this about you before, charlie, and sometimes I don't bother commenting on your posts because it seems almost redundant...as if I sense that you already sense what I'm going to say.

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posted August 04, 2014 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What sign is mercury, and Mars too.
Moon...

What are Gemini and Virgo doing in your chart?

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charlie
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posted August 04, 2014 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Edit: You know, I think I caught this about you before, charlie, and sometimes I don't bother commenting on your posts because it seems almost redundant...as if I sense that you already sense what I'm going to say.


It's super odd! I can even read people through txt messages in the way they use words and how they position them in sentences.

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charlie
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posted August 04, 2014 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
What sign is mercury, and Mars too.
Moon...

What are Gemini and Virgo doing in your chart?


Cancer Merc 11H
Virgo Mars conj Asc
Cap Moon
Gem 10H-nothing there.

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charlie
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posted August 04, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I wanted to say was that sometimes it makes me not wanna be around people so perhaps I should try and change it?

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posted August 04, 2014 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have Chiron in 3rd or in Gem?

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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BellaFenice
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posted August 04, 2014 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
What I wanted to say was that sometimes it makes me not wanna be around people so perhaps I should try and change it?

Depends. Do you have any time in the day for 'you time?' I'm a Pisces Moon so I understand needing to be alone. I absorb emotions (so kind of the opposite of you), and if I'm not careful, I take on too much energy from other people. It can be draining and exhausting, so I have to pencil in some time of the day just to decompress and be alone.

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posted August 04, 2014 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh...
Virgo Mars conjunct asc.
I also have this.

More just the Virgo Mars.
Alyssa Sharpe points this out with this placement and I have to agree.

Along with what we consider stupid answers - "because I said so". That's no ******** answer, try again! lol

Plus cancer mercury.
Is it particularly bad with friends and in groups?
Maybe your mother and female friends...?

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Faith
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posted August 04, 2014 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 04, 2014 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
and I am not sure if it's a problem that needs to be fixed or if it's acceptable and "me"?

Trait:

I am SUPER sensitive with words. How they are used. When they are used. Why they are used. In what patterns they have been used previously compared to now. Tone of voice along with words or tone of voice along with established patterns etc etc etc etc etc

You can guess the rest but this is how I am. It's not a mental process like this, it just happens when I am around people that speak.

What this does is that NOTHING being said will escape me. Or you. So choose your words very very very wisely around me. Don't lie-I will know based on myriads of patterns. And don't not tell me things, which is not lying, because based on your previous behaviour or any other pattern, I will know.

Perhaps I should have been a cop instead??

It feels like it's borderline-something but I am not sure..it's painful sometimes as I have a hard time detaching from words but when it comes to emotions I am the exact opposite.


Darn it!! Should I repost elsewhere??? *curses* I have Mercury quintile Chiron!! That makes it an astrological problem



im like that too
i have mercury square pluto
sun square pluto
i think cap placements or saturn add that as well

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7Grace
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posted August 04, 2014 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7Grace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury *Square* Pluto, can be keen. So long as jumping to conclusions, is kept in check. Also resist, the glass to the wall paranoia.

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charlie
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posted August 05, 2014 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Ahhh...
Virgo Mars conjunct asc.
I also have this.

More just the Virgo Mars.
Alyssa Sharpe points this out with this placement and I have to agree.

Along with what we consider stupid answers - "because I said so". That's no ******** answer, try again! lol

Plus cancer mercury.
Is it particularly bad with friends and in groups?
Maybe your mother and female friends...?


I do have issues with females...especially the ones that perhaps are not that "bright"....

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DeepFreeze
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posted August 05, 2014 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
I do have issues with females...especially the ones that perhaps are not that "bright"....

Yeah... It's coming together. Virgo doesn't like what it considers unintelligent, particularly concerning common sense.
Then the females coming in with your cancer mercury.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 05, 2014 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where is your 3rd house cusp?

I have Moon in 3rd house and I think this makes me very sensitive to the spoken and written word.

I read somewhere that people who have the 3rd house cusp in Cancer(like I do) need to do their own correspondence- as they tend to be very careful in choosing the right word to convey a particular emotion.

If you are "careless" with words when speaking to them or writing to them, they can get hurt/ personalize what is said.

They are sensitive to tone of voice and the choice of words used. This is what they remember and not so much the "overall" message.

I think i would include Pisces, Libra and Taurus 3rd house cusp in this -as well.

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yellowelevator
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posted August 05, 2014 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is literally me, I honestly feel your pain. I am incredibly sensitive to words too, and I can be off-put so fast by someone's tone of voice or the slightest eye-roll. I just pick it up so easily, it's very maddening. But I feel like it's not so crazy because I know I'm not deaf nor blind. So it's difficult when you sense things like that and if I call someone out on it they immediately tell me I'm wrong and make me feel like I imagined things. Then I get even more upset lol.

I have Chiron in the 3rd (probably the biggest explanation) conjunct Mercury and opposite Saturn. I'm always sensoring my words/body language around different people. Chiron really does make you feel pain.

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Faith
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posted August 05, 2014 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the back of my mind, I do pick up on the frequency of certain letters. I have a name book that talks about the "psychology" of different sounds, like "m" is a maternal sound and "v" is a sexy sound. I like "c" because it's crisp and self-assured. I pick up on it sort of organically, bypassing mental examination.

Certain syllables are decisive and others are "wimpy." Certain words flow together quickly and others drag on, forcing you to slow down whether you like it or not.

Poets obsess over this kind of thing. I don't think it's crazy, it's just a sense that some people have.

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charlie
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posted August 05, 2014 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Where is your 3rd house cusp?

I have Moon in 3rd house and I think this makes me very sensitive to the spoken and written word.

I read somewhere that people who have the 3rd house cusp in Cancer(like I do) need to do their own correspondence- as they tend to be very careful in choosing the right word to convey a particular emotion.

If you are "careless" with words when speaking to them or writing to them, they can get hurt/ personalize what is said.

They are sensitive to tone of voice and the choice of words used. This is what they remember and not so much the "overall" message.

I think i would include Pisces, Libra and Taurus 3rd house cusp in this -as well.


Scorpio 3H cusp with Uranus

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posted August 05, 2014 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
In the back of my mind, I do pick up on the frequency of certain letters. I have a name book that talks about the "psychology" of different sounds, like "m" is a maternal sound and "v" is a sexy sound. I like "c" because it's crisp and self-assured. I pick up on it sort of organically, bypassing mental examination.

Certain syllables are decisive and others are "wimpy." Certain words flow together quickly and others drag on, forcing you to slow down whether you like it or not.

Poets obsess over this kind of thing. I don't think it's crazy, it's just a sense that some people have.


I love that already. Would love the book.

I am always looking for better and more loving ways to express myself. i also have Venus on the 7th house angle.

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posted August 05, 2014 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Scorpio 3H cusp with Uranus

Well, there you go. That is it

I didn't include Scorpio on the list because I assume that Scorpio responds more vigorously than the ones mentioned(since it is Mars ruled). So it has a comeback line etc.

But since you also have water on the 3rd house cusp,you would also be very sensitive to words/tone/body language and non-verbal cues etc.

The responses I have noted are the following;

Cancer on the 3rd house cusp,when insulted, tends to be snappy or will brood. They will give silent treatment and avoid you-even if you apologize.It takes times for them to heal

Pisces on the 3rd house cusp wants to just disappear or will retaliate with an even BIGGER insult that is very personal. They may forgive you- if you apologize.

Libra on the 3rd house cusp has their concentration "broken" and loses their smile.

They don't have a response,walk away and will avoid you.They can forgive too when you apologize- as they really want to stay friendly with all people.

Taurus is thrown off the deep end and takes a while to recover. They also don't respond to that. But it is likely that you will NEVER have a conversation with them EVER. Much like Cancer,they will not forget the hurt-even when you apologize.And they hang on to the hurt much longer than Cancer.

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charlie
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posted August 05, 2014 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Well, there you go. That is it

I didn't include Scorpio on the list because I assume that Scorpio responds more vigorously than the ones mentioned(since it is Mars ruled). So it has a comeback line etc.

But since you also have water on the 3rd house cusp,you would also be very sensitive to words/tone/body language and non-verbal cues etc.

The responses I have noted are the following;

Cancer on the 3rd house cusp,when insulted, tends to be snappy or will brood. They will give silent treatment and avoid you-even if you apologize.It takes times for them to heal

Pisces on the 3rd house cusp wants to just disappear or will retaliate with an even BIGGER insult that is very personal. They may forgive you- if you apologize.

Libra on the 3rd house cusp has their concentration "broken" and loses their smile.

They don't have a response,walk away and will avoid you.They can forgive too when you apologize- as they really want to stay friendly with all people.

Taurus is thrown off the deep end and takes a while to recover. They also don't respond to that. But it is likely that you will NEVER have a conversation with them EVER. Much like Cancer,they will not forget the hurt-even when you apologize.And they hang on to the hurt much longer than Cancer.


This makes sense. So since my Uranus is sextile (0.08) Mars and Asc it would mean I am even more sensitive or mentally reactive?

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posted August 05, 2014 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus is where we are the "genius".

The house it is in is the area of life where we are brilliant or just plain mad. LOL

In that area of life, we just reach a "knowing". We get answers to questions long pondered by others and are more likely to just be sharper than most in the areas of life concerned by the relevant house.

So having Uranus in the 3rd house of the Scorpio cusp could make this "little" trait of yours something that is truly brilliant.

It could make it something that not many people have and ,since you have such a unique and undiscovered gift, you may think of yourself as "mad".

No genius who ever lived was told that they were brilliant nor ever thought that they were. They thought their abilities were on the brink of madness.

It is only posthumously,unfortunately, that we now acknowledge their genius status.

At the time that they were living, we didn't have the scope to comprehend it nor did they.

You could provide answers to what body language is actually saying, how our connections to each other are formed from non-verbal cues, how words influence ease and dis-ease(that is, disease) and how they can heal!

So congratulations for being born!!! You are a trailblazer in this area and I suggest that you develop this trait and learn to trust where it leads you.

My "brilliance" is in the 8th house. And oh the things that I intuitively "feel"? WOW!!!

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posted August 05, 2014 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7Grace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Scorpio 3H cusp with Uranus

I am SUPER sensitive with words. How they are used. When they are used. Why they are used. In what patterns they have been used previously compared to now. Tone of voice along with words or tone of voice along with established patterns etc etc etc etc etc

Your statement above seems to be:
3rd house Uranus: to increase your interest in all different kinds of communication methods, symbolic, body language, ect. Though much depends on the standing of Uranus in your chart by aspect, ect

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What this does is that NOTHING being said will escape me. Or you. So choose your words very very very wisely around me. Don't lie-I will know based on myriads of patterns. And don't not tell me things, which is not lying, because based on your previous behaviour or any other pattern, I will know.

Your statement above seems to be:
Pluto *Square* Mercury, which I mentioned earlier, in a lower manifestation, for tendencies to avoid/be conscious of. Remember communication develops, opens and deepens over time. With a Scorpio cusp try not to trap anyone's avenue of expression/communication, in a box, with limits YOU define as what responses are attributed/expectable for this individual or that individual.

Everyone has to earn trustablity, even you.

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