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next to neptune
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posted August 05, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think would make a person fall very easily IN love…but also easily OUT of love again?
And what contributes to the feeling of a "quick" lust, that also goes away again when the relationship is over?

And what do you think makes a person fall very deeply, or makes them the kind of people who takes a hard time loving someone, but when they finally do, they are completely stuck in that person?

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amelia28
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posted August 05, 2014 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well mars rules my 5th so I can fall in love relatively quickly with the right synastry and my moon is in the 4th and rules my 8th so I don't fall out of love easily at all.

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sweet-scorpion
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posted August 05, 2014 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
What do you think would make a person fall very easily IN love…but also easily OUT of love again?
And what contributes to the feeling of a "quick" lust, that also goes away again when the relationship is over?

And what do you think makes a person fall very deeply, or makes them the kind of people who takes a hard time loving someone, but when they finally do, they are completely stuck in that person?


Mars-Neptune, perhaps also Venus-Neptune. Can idealize the lover and put the lover on a pedestal. Initially only sees the great qualities in a new partner and thinks that this partner will be 'the one', almost every single time...however, just as quickly falls out of 'love' when faults in the partner can no longer be ignored, but may try to change partner for the better or hold onto the fantasy. I have experience with Mars-Neptune and feeling this way.

Quick lust makes me think of Mars and Venus in aspect, usually a stress aspect, with either [or both] planets falling in the 8th. When you say someone has a hard time loving/being loved but wants to find a real soul mate, I instantly thought Venus in aspect to Saturn.

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DeepFreeze
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posted August 05, 2014 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Mars-Neptune, perhaps also Venus-Neptune. Can idealize the lover and put the lover on a pedestal. Initially only sees the great qualities in a new partner and thinks that this partner will be 'the one', almost every single time...however, just as quickly falls out of 'love' when faults in the partner can no longer be ignored, but may try to change partner for the better or hold onto the fantasy. I have experience with Mars-Neptune and feeling this way.

Quick lust makes me think of Mars and Venus in aspect, usually a stress aspect, with either [or both] planets falling in the 8th. When you say someone has a hard time loving/being loved but wants to find a real soul mate, I instantly thought Venus in aspect to Saturn.


I have Venus square Neptune
Venus rules my 1st and 8th
Uranus rules my 5th
Mars which rules my 7th is also 12th


It's like falling in love with a car and later discovering that the seats suck on long journeys, it stumbles when you take off. The color doesn't look like it matches in certain lights.
It makes a noise every now and then and also figuring out that it actually doesn't fit who you are. It looks like it belongs to some other jackass.

Time to trade

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sweet-scorpion
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posted August 05, 2014 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I have Venus square Neptune
Venus rules my 1st and 8th
Uranus rules my 5th
Mars which rules my 7th is also 12th


It's like falling in love with a car and later discovering that the seats suck on long journeys, it stumbles when you take off. The color doesn't look like it matches in certain lights.
It makes a noise every now and then and also figuring out that it actually doesn't fit who you are. It looks like it belongs to some other jackass.

Time to trade


Awww, sorry DF. I've had serious issues with my placements too, when it comes to not seeing someone realistically when we first meet...I idealize the other person, only see great things in her, then slowly but surely have my image - and the potential for true love and acceptance - come crumbling down while I desperately try to save it.

My Mars is in my 8th, rules my 5th. Venus is in my 11th and rules my 11th. I sometimes confuse friendship with romantic affection, as well - and if this isn't the case, a friend wants to take it to the next level with me when I'm not interested.

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bansheequeen
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posted August 05, 2014 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Mars-Neptune, perhaps also Venus-Neptune. Can idealize the lover and put the lover on a pedestal. Initially only sees the great qualities in a new partner and thinks that this partner will be 'the one', almost every single time...however, just as quickly falls out of 'love' when faults in the partner can no longer be ignored, but may try to change partner for the better or hold onto the fantasy. I have experience with Mars-Neptune and feeling this way.

Quick lust makes me think of Mars and Venus in aspect, usually a stress aspect, with either [or both] planets falling in the 8th. When you say someone has a hard time loving/being loved but wants to find a real soul mate, I instantly thought Venus in aspect to Saturn.


I have Venus conj both Neptune and Saturn and I can actually relate to your destinations for both. I tend to idealize the person and "fall" fast but I don't truly fall completely in love until they pass my tests. I guess I crush easily but like intense crushing. I always felt like you can never truly tell if someone is the right one for you unless you jump in, so until you find the one, anyone can be that one. But once the haze of Neptune fades and I can clearing see that person doesnt live up to my Saturnian strict ideals of love, I bail. However that always takes a long time because I actually think both those planets being conjunct my Venus actually makes me hold onto the illusion longer!

I too have tried to hold onto the fantasy, usually by fantasizing about the beginning when things were rosy or I try to change them into being the person I thought they were too.

Also the person I know that falls in love fastest and also falls out of love fastest is a sag sun

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DeepFreeze
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posted August 05, 2014 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about when it's time to move on then?

I used to hang on to the illusion too but then I'm a fixed sign, Leo, so the idea of a failure is unacceptable.

Once I did make up my mind (not just from an impulsive reaction).
Boom, I was done in every single way and it was certainly no secret. Cold, very snippy with words. There's never going back. Not the next day and not 10 years later.

Thankfully, Barbie is a whole new kind of relationship. Kind of like I hadn't really had one or REALLY been in love. Just lived a bunch of fictional stories that had no meaning. They only existed in my head. But it's unfortunate that others get taken for the ride.
Ohhhhhh well, nobody died.

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bansheequeen
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posted August 05, 2014 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a fixed sign too, Aquarius, so I think it's a little more impulsive on my part. Even if I try to hang onto the illusion and even if Saturn makes me stay due to a weird underlying almost subconscious sense of duty, Uranus kinda rips everything apart.

In the past even when I've made up my mind I stayed for a long long time. It's like I'm constantly pulled between Saturn/reality and Neptune/illusion. But also saturns longevity and neptunes disillusionment, not sure if that really makes sense but they all coexist like that. I'm not washy washy, I always knew exactly what I want but it's like I can see the flaws, but Neptune wants to live in fantasy because Saturn won't give up.

I totally know what you mean and you guys are too cute! It's like you don't really truly know what love is until you've found true love. Which is a conundrum... You might think you've had love before but one day you feel real true love and realize how fake it all was. And esp with Neptune, someone can fall in love with the idea of love or a fantasy of something in your head without even seeing what's in front of you. But still, it brings a lot of soft romance to your "this is it! Relationship so I like it

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DeepFreeze
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posted August 05, 2014 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep!
You're Neptune and Saturn mix makes sense completely. Gluing you to it. Sounds painful.

I THINK my Scorpio Uranus trine Gemini moon helps.
Eventually it's just like, "nope. No more" and it's all done.

It's great with us, yes. Nothing has died down or dulled at all.

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PisceanDream
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posted August 06, 2014 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon sq Venus in mutable signs. Fascinated and intrigued quickly by someone then easily bored.

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