posted August 13, 2014 08:50 AM            

The way to achieve the experiences necessary to put this process into action will be indicated by Mercury. Now, remember that Virgo is the nocturnal yang side of Mercury, which means rather than going outwards for the sources of information, facts and figures, etc. that Mercury likes to acquire, the nocturnal side of Mercury is actually sorting through the information that has been acquired, carefully sorting through and paying attention to only what is necessary or important. This information will be used to assess how it is exactly the person is lacking/limited.

The sort of experiences necessary to enact this process of refinement and purification, will be centred around fifth house issues - concerning creative self-actualisation. This means expressing the self's highest potential via creative or procreative outlets. The sign of Scorpio here indicates that these outlets will automatically allow for the purging and personal re-empowerment the soul is seeking through its need for self-refinement/purification.

Regarding the opposition, what is the orb between Mercury and the Moon? Although they may be in opposition, they are in sign energies that are naturally inconjunct/quincunx. I'll leave this aspect for now.

Now your Saturn in Libra in the fourth...

Since you say Cancer is your ascendant, Capricorn must then be on the cusp of your seventh. As an overall interpretation, a lot of your life lessons are going to be centred around your personal image of yourself compared to that of how others, especially those you build relationships, have with you. To briefly mention the moon and mercury opposition again, your need for refinement leading to metamorphosis within your fourth house sphere is at odds with your needs to cling to the ways in which society and role models have conditioned you to be way you "ought" to be, behave and act within relationships. This has become limiting to your soul growth, hence why Saturn is in Libra/fourth. Saturn is showing you the problem and what it is really about, whilst Virgo on the cusp is saying that you need to take a couple of steps back and reassess your fourth house situation. This situation encompassing and inhibiting your ability to have relationships with people within your fourth house sector because of what you have been conditioned by others to believe.

posted August 13, 2014 09:33 AM            

I feel like there is a battle between my mind and my gut reactions, which therefor always makes me feel unsafe or split emotionally. If Im reading researching, then I feel like Im in my head, but then when strong emotions come, I dont know what to do, and none of the research ever helps me when Im in the actually gut reaction experience. I know as a child I felt at the mercy of an emotional force (mother) and have protected myself from that to survive. But now its not working. But no matter how much I research, read, healers... when Emotions come, its like WTF is going on?

Im rambling... But Im trying to understand whats going on internally that I missed before... I really dont know what step to take to have MIND AND HEART work together.
My emotions feel homeless. Which is my exact childhood. So it's not something new. It's a repeating pattern.

posted August 13, 2014 10:03 AM            

Davy, I can soo relate to you! It was like reading myself. Damn. I'm a Scorpio with Moon/Pluto hard aspect, too.

posted August 13, 2014 10:11 AM            

I think you should look into your interceptions. You have both Taurus and Scorpio intercepted in your tenth and fourth houses respectively. These two energies are said to locked with those houses and the only way to access them is by becoming aware of and understanding how the sign (and it's ruler) on the cusp on the the houses work. In this case Venus and Mars.

posted August 13, 2014 06:35 PM            

So Tempu... Im lost a bit how the heck did you see that Taurus and Scorpio intercept my 4/10th?
Does this impact The 2nd and 8th house as well Taurus, Scorpios house?

I would like to delve into the interceptions for all my houses... googled it but Im still a bit huh what, how do I ?, but just curious what you looked for?

posted August 13, 2014 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Davy333:
Thanks all.

So Tempu... Im lost a bit how the heck did you see that Taurus and Scorpio intercept my 4/10th?
Does this impact The 2nd and 8th house as well Taurus, Scorpios house?

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Not necessarily. But in your case as (with most intercepted signs) you have the same sign on the cusps of your first/second houses and seventh/eighth houses.

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I would like to delve into the interceptions for all my houses... googled it but Im still a bit huh what, how do I ?, but just curious what you looked for?

Also for whatever reason when I tried the search it says the search is not activated now? ??

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Read the following
http://www.azastrologers.org/Articles/WickenburgIntercepts&Retrogrades.pdf
http://www.ncgr-turkey.com/interception.htm
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/227867.html

posted August 13, 2014 11:04 PM            

But did you mean that Taurus Scorpio, intercept in my 5th and 11th house not 4th and 10th? As I can see that if you refer to 5th and 11th houses, but you mentioned 4th and 10th houses, and I have been researching how that impacts my 4th house with virgo on the cusp, and with saturn libra inside, and my emotions etc as stated.

posted August 13, 2014 11:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Davy333:
Thanks looking...

But did you mean that Taurus Scorpio, intercept in my 5th and 11th house not 4th and 10th? As I can see that if you refer to 5th and 11th houses, but you mentioned 4th and 10th houses, and I have been researching how that impacts my 4th house with virgo on the cusp, and with saturn libra inside, and my emotions etc as stated.

So am I off? Or did you mean taurus scorpio intercept in 4th and 10? Or 5th and 11th?

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posted August 14, 2014 12:32 AM            

If Scorpio Taurus are intercepted, so then all the things I have read and thought I connected with about Scorpio being that Sun Mercury Uranus are all in Scorpio, it means I dont have access to this energy or never have?

And Taurus in the 11th. I have Chiron Taurus... read and researched about that.

Im just confused about putting it all together, and its connection to the 4th house.

So?? That means all my 5th house planets will express themselves through Venus? And my 11th house planets will express themselves through Mars? Which is Only The Moon in Aries, so I always figured that anyway, but what about Chiron in Taurus in the 11th ? Or is it diff with asteroids.

Oy confused. lol

posted August 14, 2014 01:14 AM            

The thing is, like life, the answers will only present themselves to you when you're actually ready for them.

From personal experience, I've found that trying to figure out the precise meaning of every single aspect in my chart and then trying to force it all together, isn't going to help you come to any sort of conclusion.

It's kind of like trying to put a puzzle together without finding and putting together the pieces of the edges together first.

You need to first understand the foundations of your chart - but you need to understand them through YOURSELF and not through meanings given to you in astrology books or shoddy online interpretations.

What do each of the twelve astrological archetypes PERSONALLY mean to you? Which one(s) do you personally associate with the most? Then look to your chart for the way these particular archetypes manifest.

I think you need to establish a firmer foundation of the basic meanings of the astrological archetypes and then through establishing this base, creating and correlating your own personal meaning. AND THEN you can start trying to make sense of how it all works.

Meaning truly comes from within, not from without.

posted August 16, 2014 11:30 PM            

So I have another question... Literally today during meditation... Before beginning I had asked the question to the Divine within me... Which archetype or sign do I need to shed the most light on, what house does it manifest in...

The answer came to me as Pisces, and the 12 house...

Now my midheaven is in Pisces... No planets in the 12th, Gem on the cusp. So whats the most important thing to view all the aspects of Mercuy Gems ruler ? I looked up ruler of 12th in 5th.

Or the aspects of mercury. Or that of Neptune Pisces ruler?

Learning is fun.

posted August 17, 2014 04:42 AM            

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What do each of the twelve astrological archetypes PERSONALLY mean to you?

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posted August 17, 2014 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Davy333:
Hi...

Was curious... Im a Cancer Asc. I have Saturn Libra 4th house, with Virgo on the cusp. I was curious how the Virgo lens would influence this placement when it came to emotional foundations...?

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Where is Mercury ;the ruler of Virgo placed?

What is the house cusp?

What is the ruler of that house cusp?