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margym0o
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posted August 13, 2014 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This man is probably one of the most anxiety-ridden people I have ever met. I am wondering if it is because of conflicting natal chart aspects or perhaps some aspects that are known in people prone to anxiety?

I am sympathetic towards him because we all have our own "stuff" and I try to be as understanding as I can be but it is sometimes very difficult for me. Normally it is things he processes in his own mind but sometimes he will let his anxieties affect the way he acts towards me. At his worst he is quiet and uncommunicative/unresponsive/cold, or can be very sarcastic/nit-picky/critical, or when better he has these incredible highs where he is on top of the world, hyper, energetic and ready to party. On his best days he is very much a "suck" (for lack of a better term), seeking my affection and very cuddley and this is when he is the most emotionally open and honest.

In the beginning when he was at his worst I used to take it very personally, thinking he was just not that into me. Then I chalked it up to him being a typical Cancer and the moodiness associated with this sign, but his chart isn't water-heavy at all and this seems different from that. Over time I've learned infinite patience in riding the waves. I believe a lot of this has to do with his feelings of self-worth and self-esteem.

Can this be seen here?

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theunknown
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posted August 13, 2014 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron and Neptune are the points of the two yods...So lots of pain and disillusion there.
hard aspect to sun and mercury AND north node from Saturn, Pluto and mars.... Damn! I am not surprised at all. I'd say the person is not only prone to anxiety but possibly depression. Mars as chart ruler is in Libra and that just definitely makes things worse

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posted August 13, 2014 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder how much cancer mercury has to do with it....?

I know that's vague and general.
Like me having moon in Gemini... Mercury in cancer is out of it's comfort zone.

I knew this woman, dated briefly I guess.
The most anxiety riddled person I've ever met. She was always seeing a Dr. Always on meds, and they never helped. She had less a nervous shake almost always.

Cancer
Sun
Mercury
Mars

Scorpio moon
Gemini Venus and asc.

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soren
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posted August 13, 2014 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah people with lots of squares are probably more tense, plus i read that the air element is the most prone to anxiety and thinking, plus his north node is conjunct mercury, also lots of people have anxiety nowadays, also i have anxiety, also i made blackberry popsicles, also i am just being how i want to be and i really love life now, also, also, also. also.

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lalalinda
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posted August 13, 2014 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since his Ascendant is in Aries, you look at his aspects with Mars.
This type of anxiety can be seen with a hard aspect between Mars/Mercury even though his aspect is wide.
His Mars is angular with several hard aspects.
It doesn't help that his Sun (square Mars) is in moody Cancer.

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Doux Rêve
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posted August 13, 2014 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What all the others said, plus Venus in Gemini in the 3rd house (double mental influence, ruling the "lower mind") opposed by Neptune in the 9H - lack of mental clarity, possible confusion and anxiety.

Ruler of the 3rd house is Mercury, very afflicted, especially by Saturn - excessive worry that can strain the nerves.

The Cancer stuff definitely doesn't help - adds emotionalism and insecurity, mood swings.

That Saturn/Mars/Pluto conjunction in Libra in the 7H must be very difficult to deal with, especially in relationships. It's square his Sun so there's a lot of tension there.

Could his anxiety be rooted in a subconscious fear of being physically or psychically hurt? Or perhaps a mis-channeled anger/resentment? Does he come from an abusive background? Definitely looks like he suffered a lot in his life and probably bottled a lot of things up that are now manifesting as mental and emotional restlessness.

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charlie
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posted August 13, 2014 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was HIGH anxiety when younger but have calmed myself down slightly. Bad bad anxiety

I don't really know what aspects to give you though but I do have Uranus sextile Virgo Mars, Asc with 0.18 orb. Mercury in 11H and Uranus in 3H. There's a lot of highwire activity in me; physically and mentally and sometimes I nearly have to beat my body to death to quiet my mind.

My chart ruler (Mercury) is also opposite Moon, square Pluto and conjunct Sun.

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margym0o
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posted August 13, 2014 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you everyone for your input. Very eye-opening. Now I don't know whether to feel even more empathy for him or write him off as a lost cause! It is extremely difficult to deal with at times, but I try my best to remain level-headed and "calm him down" and/or ignore his "bad" behaviour. He has thanked me numerous times for "putting up with him" so I think he knows he is a handful and acknowledges my patience with him. It must be hard for him to be "trapped" by his own thoughts. On the outside he appears so put together - beautiful condo, well-paying (albeit high stress) job - relatively normal on all accounts but only because I am intimate with him do I see the full extent of how this manifests. I don't even think his closest friends know the full extent.

I have only gotten tidbits of his upbringing but from what I understand his father worked shift work and usually at night so he didn't see him much. His mother essentially raised him and his sister. He is definitely not the traditional rough-and-tumble son his father would probably have preferred to have so I think he has gotten a lot of teasing about that from him. They did not get along when he was growing up. He also admitted to having struggled with severe acne as a teenager which made him a very "angry teen" and greatly affected his social life even into his early university years when it began to clear up. Then people began to "notice him" he said. Even to this day almost a decade or so later he still has trouble really looking at himself in mirrors.

He really has been on a mission since then to really "prove himself" - in work and especially with women - at least on a surface level. So I guess this all ties in.

Poor guy

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