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Supreme cT
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posted August 13, 2014 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supreme cT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im curious whats the difference between Venus/pluto and mars/pluto i know venus/pluto means obsessive/transforming relationships so whats mars/pluto? Obsessive/ transforming sex? I notice people with venus/pluto are usually very popular with the opposite sex and they dont even try to be, and then sometimes i will do someones chart and they have mars/pluto and they arent really as popular with the opposite sex like venus/pluto people are. Does anybody else notice that? What would you prefer mars/pluto or venus/pluto?

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hannaramaa
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posted August 13, 2014 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at it like Venus receives and Mars takes action. So if you have Venus/Pluto they are naturally better at drawing others in like a spider with it's web. Mars/Pluto will go after it's "prey" like a spider. Meticulously and painstakingly so as to gather the most information and build something, etc.

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posted August 14, 2014 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars/Pluto

I have Mars opp Pluto in natal. I wouldn't say I'm unpopular (Venus in 1st; 1st house stellium) though.

What can I say? I am a power hungry individual.

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Ellynlvx
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posted August 14, 2014 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are completely different.

Venus is Creation.

Mars is aggression.

Pluto is Tranforming Penetration.

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Doux Rêve
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posted August 14, 2014 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ja, I've noticed that.

Also, what Hanna said.

Venus/Pluto takes the cake when it comes to magnetism, attractiveness and attention from the opposite sex especially.

That's cause Venus is more passive and lures others in. Pluto adds extra power to that.

While Mars rules action in general. It's not about attracting others as it is about taking action and reacting to events and people.

The two energies are different.

With Mars/Pluto the emphasis is on self-expression, assertiveness and identity.

With Venus/Pluto the emphasis is on attraction, love, relationships and social life.

Also, I think Venus/Pluto creates a sort of mysterious aura because Venus is (or can be) "hidden," and that can generate interest from others. A sort of, "ooh, what's behind that veil of indifference?" thing. The shy guy who gets attention from tons of females who want to seduce him and finally make him "open up" and make his heart beat and pour his affection and love on them. Hah!

Mars/Pluto is usually more direct and open in expression, unless Mars is "hidden," in which case it looks like the person has little power and can't assert themselves. It can also point to someone who seems sexless, a person completely out of touch with their desire nature (that includes their sexual drive) and who seems powerless in some way.
It's a bit of a either/or type of thing, often. They're either very dominant and assertive, or seemingly very out of touch with their instincts.
I guess the types that are more in touch with their instincts are more magnetic than those who aren't. But I've personally not known many people who can harness Mars/Pluto aspects (the hard ones) in a positive way (myself included).

Eh, not sure I made it all clear... kind of messy. Can't organize my thoughts well.

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posted August 14, 2014 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supreme cT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I notice with mars/pluto energy things always work out better for me when im the initiator, pluto powers up my chances of being successful usually when i want something i get it, and with venus/pluto they attract people in effortlessly i see it as two sides of the same coin mars/pluto need to chase because we are naturally better at it and need to come to terms with that and venus/pluto is better at attracting without being aggressive about it.

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posted August 14, 2014 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sandra018     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have both
Venus opp Pluto
Mars opp Pluto

i am attractive, but also don't mess with me type..so little intimidating...its the energy that we have( from Pluto) thats intense and we are not even aware of it, we just carry it..others can sense it..we come across as intense and aggressive..

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posted August 14, 2014 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have both as well: Venus Sextile Pluto Sexitle Mars. I'd say that going after your prey applies really well but not often for me. I don't feel the drawing in part, but it might just be that I don't notice it. I am relatively introverted, so it's possible.

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posted August 14, 2014 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard aspects are more powerful and have more impact.

However they are more difficult to handle.

(obvious post is obvious)

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LiOnfshh78
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posted August 15, 2014 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiOnfshh78     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
duplicate, sorry

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posted August 15, 2014 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiOnfshh78     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus/Mars/Pluto conjunct natally, how do you think this makes a person react? For me, Im always confused. My poor, poor husband

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posted August 15, 2014 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I notice with Venus square Pluto, people can become obsessed with a love interest and totally consumed. They tend to be jealous and aggressive with what they are interested in. There isn't much actual energy that I've noticed, just this overwhelming desire they experience.

Mars square Pluto is more about lots and lots of physical/mental energy. There can be obsession with this too. Both of these are kinda obsessive.

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posted August 15, 2014 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiOnfshh78     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, the conjunct of the 3, I'm EXTREMELY jealous, obsessive & possessive. Men either love me or can't stand the sight of me, no in betweens. I get bored in my relationship sometimes very easily if the passion disappears for too long. Then I think it's my partner that is uninterested. I definitely NEED the passion, always.

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posted August 15, 2014 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes I can be possessive other times completely indifferent. I am inconsistent about stuff.

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posted August 15, 2014 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have both (a trine to Venus and a square to Mars). I can't say that I'm particularly aggressive in pursuing (I pretty much never pursue), nor can I say that I magnetically attract people (I'm not really attractive by conventional standards, especially not in my dating pool).

To be honest, I don't think that either of these plays much of a role in terms of finding partners, as much as they do in how the relationship is experienced (by me, of course) and how I tend to interact with men that I date.

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Sun -> Aries
Moon -> Sagittarius
Ascendant -> Virgo

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posted August 15, 2014 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That Plutonian energy can inhibit the aggressive energy of Mars as in I don't pursue others.

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posted August 15, 2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Power, also.

You don't have Pluto without the theme of power nearby.

Who has it and what do they do with it, etc.

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sis
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posted August 15, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus ( Cap) square Pluto ( Libra ) ( 8 degree - don't say its too wide,it's an aspect that pretty much shaped my love life. One thing for sure I am obsessive. Can be quite jealous bu I can control it. When I love, I love deeply, intensely and I never truly let go. But because of having relationship phobia ( venus - 1st opposite saturn -7th ), I turn my affairs into a sexual fantasy ( mars conjunct neptune ) and lock my partners in there as well... I create too much confusion - you remove one veil, then there is another veil...

Recently, I can say I have made great strides opening up but still insist on not having a committed relationship but also demand having a fairy tale union. go figure...

Attaraction wise; I can say I am a sexual magnet. I am obsessed with beauty ( Venus 1st square Pluto ) but always felt ugly ( Venus opposite Saturn ). Even though Ihave always been capable of getting the best men in town, even though my friends have tried so hard to convince me that I am very attractive... to this day I could not manage to fix the perspective I have about my phsycical appearance.. Soon I will start having trs. Pluto conjunct Venus.. I know it will activate my venus/pluto square.. I see two possibilities hopefully whatever I will go through will help me to heal my relationship with my body or I will take extreme measures to look better which means plastic surgery and since pluto will be opposing saturn ( 7th ) at the same time, my life long friends will try to prevent it we are already discussing that might happen

I have Mars ( sag ) sextile Pluto ( libra ) tight orb... Depending on the house system used; mars is 11th or 12th... I am not sure how I experience this energy really. Due to having Mars in Sag, I can be quite optimistic about the actions that I take... and once determined I can move mountains but I am rarely determined... verryy rarely.. put the plame on my mars neptune conjunction...

I like/love sex that's for sure but never had an orgazm with a man. never surrender ! :P stupid me...

and yes I can be aggressive and very intimidating.. u would not dare to mess with me if you don't know me ( venus square pluto square ascendant ) but once you do my sun/mercury/venus sextile jupiter aspects will make you realise that I have a troubled mind with a lot of good intentions in it.


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sis
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posted August 15, 2014 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus ( Cap) square Pluto ( Libra ) ( 8 degree - don't say its too wide,it's an aspect that pretty much shaped my love life. One thing for sure I am obsessive. Can be quite jealous bu I can control it. When I love, I love deeply, intensely and I never truly let go. But because of having relationship phobia ( venus - 1st opposite saturn -7th ), I turn my affairs into a sexual fantasy ( mars conjunct neptune ) and lock my partners in there as well... I create too much confusion - you remove one veil, then there is another veil...

Recently, I can say I have made great strides opening up but still insist on not having a committed relationship but also demand having a fairy tale union. go figure...

Attaraction wise; I can say I am a sexual magnet. I am obsessed with beauty ( Venus 1st square Pluto ) but always felt ugly ( Venus opposite Saturn ). Even though Ihave always been capable of getting the best men in town, even though my friends have tried so hard to convince me that I am very attractive... to this day I could not manage to fix the perspective I have about my phsycical appearance. And it hurts. Soon I will start having trs. Pluto conjunct Venus.. I know it will activate my venus/pluto square.. I see two possibilities hopefully whatever I will go through will help me to heal my relationship with my body or I will take extreme measures to look better which means plastic surgery and since pluto will be opposing saturn ( 7th ) at the same time, my life long friends will try to prevent it we are already discussing that might happen

I have Mars ( sag ) sextile Pluto ( libra ) tight orb... Depending on the house system used; mars is 11th or 12th... I am not sure how I experience this energy really. Due to having Mars in Sag, I can be quite optimistic about the actions that I take... and once determined I can move mountains but I am rarely determined... verryy rarely.. put the plame on my mars neptune conjunction...

I like/love sex that's for sure but never had an orgazm with a man. never surrender ! stupid me...

and yes I can be aggressive and very intimidating.. u would not dare to mess with me if you don't know me ( venus square pluto square ascendant ) but once you do my sun/mercury/venus sextile jupiter aspects will make you realise that I have a troubled mind with a lot of good intentions in it.


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posted August 15, 2014 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm friends with a Cancer man who has Venus in Taurus opposite Pluto in Scorpio. He also has Venus trine Uranus and Venus trine Neptune. From what I've seen, he's shy, but a little flirty. He'll meet different girls, converse for awhile, and then just disappear then resurface with some Swavey pick up line and then all is forgiven. He is very charming and attractive. His moon is also in Libra (Moon-Uranus square). We've been friends for over 4 years now and I've actually accepted that he might not ever change. It could be just because Hess young, but I believe that Venus-Uranus opposition is the main culprit for his flightiness. He's very sexy and mysterious. I can never figure him out despite me being a Scorpio with a Scorpio stellium.

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