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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 17, 2014 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the natal. How do you interpret it?


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posted August 17, 2014 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this. Venus conj asc, Taurus dsc. (right?)

Not really sure how this works. But I'd love to hear what others have to say.

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posted August 18, 2014 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a guess.

Probably someone who places great value on being in a relationship or part of a group. The partner becomes part of their identity. Their partner sets the rules and they follow, or vice-versa.

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posted August 18, 2014 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Nine I was thinking along the same lines...Is it true, Lucie?


Any more ideas?

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posted August 18, 2014 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I have this. Venus conj asc, Taurus dsc. (right?)

Not really sure how this works. But I'd love to hear what others have to say.


Do you attract relationship suiters easily and do you find relationships are very important for you as you don't like been single? Are you usually in a relationship?

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posted August 18, 2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Probably someone who places great value on being in a relationship or part of a group. The partner becomes part of their identity. Their partner sets the rules and they follow.

This is true for me. Being in a relationship/partnership is very important to me. My x husband was my best friend and my family more than my actual family.

I'm not sure about letting them set the rules. I mean I'm not a push over. But I have Sun conj Nept and I'm highly mutable. Not only will I go with the flow, I don't always know what my own direction is supposed to be.

So since my x had a career path/plan, I was happy to follow and help him achieve what he wanted (ie, moved countries for his career a few times effectively tanking my own). This however is something I've been trying to work on since my divorce and it's why I got into studying astrology, to find my own path.

I'm not really interested in being part of a group per se.

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Do you attract relationship suiters easily and do you find relationships are very important for you as you don't like been single? Are you usually in a relationship?

Well, I attract men easily. They are certainly not all suitors. I always attributed that to my Scorpio asc and Venus conj asc. I do enjoy dating, flirting and meeting new people when I'm single and I won't just be in a relationship for the sake of it.

Of course I was married for 15 years so this dating thing is all new to me (again)!

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posted August 18, 2014 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll give a guess. When people with this aspect are in a relationship, it's easy for them to adapt and accept differences in their partnership, at least visually. You know those couple, who "look good together"?

My 7th House Ruler (Neptune) trines my Venus/Asc conjunction

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posted August 18, 2014 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dsc ruler (Mars) conjunct Asc.
Mine is conjunct from the 12th side.

My little guess is that you will behave in a manner of what you're attracted to / What you attract. (in accordance with whatever planet it is) I think it'll add a little bit more of that like people attract rather than "Opposites attract". LOL

So for example, my Mars (dsc ruler) conjunct my asc. I act somewhat Aries-like, but only in very close relationships as mine is buried in the private house of the 12th. As well as attracting/being attracted to, relationships of that type.

Just my little stab at it. I need to study the angles more.

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posted August 19, 2014 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
My dsc ruler (Mars) conjunct Asc.
Mine is conjunct from the 12th side.

My little guess is that you will behave in a manner of what you're attracted to / What you attract. (in accordance with whatever planet it is) I think it'll add a little bit more of that like people attract rather than "Opposites attract". LOL

So for example, my Mars (dsc ruler) conjunct my asc. I act somewhat Aries-like, but only in very close relationships as mine is buried in the private house of the 12th. As well as attracting/being attracted to, relationships of that type.

Just my little stab at it. I need to study the angles more.



You mean attracted to Mars partners or partners behaving in a Martian way?

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posted August 19, 2014 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

You mean attracted to Mars partners or partners behaving in a Martian way?



Partners behaving in a Martian way. But myself also behaving that way also, at least much more than a Libra rising without that aspect.

Just a guess though.
Plus I have a planet in first so....

It's an excellent question!

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posted August 19, 2014 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, in this case....what do you think the reverse means? ASC ruler conjunct DSC.

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posted August 19, 2014 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm...

This is tough!
Idk....

Giving that part of yourself to your partner more completely and also identifying that part of yourself with your partner.

So moon... Maybe feels that they are missing a large part of their emotional outlet without a partner to give it to and having their partner help to define their emotional nature.

That sort of thing...?

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posted August 19, 2014 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or perhaps it's someone a bit domineering in relationships?, or searching relationships which place their personality in a good/better/shining light? I mean ASC ruler conjunct DSC. That's what I have, actually

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posted August 19, 2014 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Or perhaps it's someone a bit domineering in relationships?, or searching relationships which place their personality in a good/better/shining light? I mean ASC ruler conjunct DSC. That's what I have, actually


Is your interpretation true for you?

Actually the more I think about what I wrote above, I also have Saturn in 7th conj dsc. Doesn't that pretty much also mean what Nine wrote as well?

I'm not sure how the conj of the ruler to the asc would then be different.

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posted August 19, 2014 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TempuraNostril     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The cusp of the first and seventh houses signal the coming of awareness of the self and of the other, respectively.

The sign on the cusp of the seventh house will indicate the kind of archetypal energies the native will be particularly attuned to in relation to it's coming awareness of the "other".

The archetypal energy found here will be the tool the native will use to aid itself in this particular area, and thus, we come to the planetary function symbolised by the ruler of the seventh house cusp.

The position of the seventh house ruler will indicate where this particular function will manifest, and how it will manifest. The manifestation of the planetary function aids the coming awareness of the other in the seventh house.

In the case of the descendant ruler conjunct the ascendant, it basically indicates that the coming awareness of the other goes hand in hand with the coming awareness of the self. The relationships the native initiates and develops automatically aid the native in its journey of becoming and self discovery, and vice versa.

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posted August 20, 2014 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, DC ruler (Venus) trine Asc.

I definitely agree that relationships have been important in my own growth and self understanding.

Not always in a relationship. Saturn trines both Venus and Asc. But relationships are usually harmonious and I tend to avoid much of the grief and drama others have with breakups and exes.

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posted August 20, 2014 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TempuraNostril:
The cusp of the first and seventh houses signal the coming of awareness of the self and of the other, respectively.

The sign on the cusp of the seventh house will indicate the kind of archetypal energies the native will be particularly attuned to in relation to it's coming awareness of the "other".

The archetypal energy found here will be the tool the native will use to aid itself in this particular area, and thus, we come to the planetary function symbolised by the ruler of the seventh house cusp.

The position of the seventh house ruler will indicate where this particular function will manifest, and how it will manifest. The manifestation of the planetary function aids the coming awareness of the other in the seventh house.

In the case of the descendant ruler conjunct the ascendant, it basically indicates that the coming awareness of the other goes hand in hand with the coming awareness of the self. The relationships the native initiates and develops automatically aid the native in its journey of becoming and self discovery, and vice versa.


Great insight, about relationships being very important for self-discovery with DSC ruler conjunct ASC. In this case, Lucie and Tempura, I think the reverse is also true: when ASC ruler conjunct DSC, I suppose the ASC's personality will attract partners and the partners will benefit a lot from the native's evolution in life: I suppose this is a placement good for mentoring others.

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posted August 20, 2014 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Great insight, about relationships being very important for self-discovery with DSC ruler conjunct ASC. In this case, Lucie and Tempura, I think the reverse is also true: when ASC ruler conjunct DSC, I suppose the ASC's personality will attract partners and the partners will benefit a lot from the native's evolution in life: I suppose this is a placement good for mentoring others.


Ok, girl, mentor me! I need it!

So.... Is my search for "self" tied up in my relationships?

I think my relationship with my x only caused me to be more confused (or at least not at all focused) on my self realization. I do feel I put pressure on him to guide me. He just wasn't really able to do that. All my "self" decisions I would run by him and look for confirmation this was what I should do.

When I say self realization, I'm talking mostly career.


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posted August 20, 2014 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Ok, girl, mentor me! I need it!

So.... Is my search for "self" tied up in my relationships?

I think my relationship with my x only caused me to be more confused (or at least not at all focused) on my self realization. I do feel I put pressure on him to guide me. He just wasn't really able to do that. All my "self" decisions I would run by him and look for confirmation this was what I should do.

When I say self realization, I'm talking mostly career.



Well, it makes sense, since someone with DSC ruler on ASC would let their partner lead and I think they (you) actually need a partner they can put their faith in.

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posted August 20, 2014 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Well, it makes sense, since someone with DSC ruler on ASC would let their partner lead and I think they (you) actually need a partner they can put their faith in.



Sure. I probably need get a mentor not necessarily leave this pressure on my partner. It's probably not fair on one's partner.

I've always been a bit jealous of couples who work together and create companies together. I'd love that. Especially if I were the one doing the back office stuff and he were the one in the spot light. I wonder if I could make that happen.....

ETA: And here is what I found in the Astrology board in the Saturn in the 7th house thread:

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Originally posted by Shining Ray:

Here is another interpretation on this placement by Astrologer Lyn Birkbeck - The lessons and responsibilities that you are supposed to be working on in yourself can be mistakenly projected onto a partner. You expect them to putting right what is really your department. When you do get to do it yourself - which essentially means you are simply learning to relate to others in a responsible way - then you show great honour and discipline with regard to any serious relationship.


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posted August 21, 2014 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:

Thank you, Lucie I think this guy definitely exists for you, the one with whom you'll make a great team, you being the Grey Eminence behind the throne You just have to find him, I mean meet him. But if that's what you need, he will come your way

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