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Topic: How easy is it for a Scorpio/Pluto person to make someone cry?
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NeptunianSag
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posted August 18, 2014 12:04 PM
  
Is it me or does it not take much for a Scorpio to call someone out on their BS and it usually ends in tears. I have a progressed Scorpio asc and pluto in 1st and when I enter a room I can just sense bs, call someone out on it and it looks like they are about to cry. Or even if I don't say anything they just look like they are about to cry because I think they can sense that I see through their bs. Is there any other ways a Scorpio/plutonic person make someone cry?
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PisceanDream
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posted August 18, 2014 12:40 PM
How funny! There was this very attractive Scorpio ASC guy in my class who used to stare at me very intensely that it made me squirm in discomfort. So much so, that I thought he hated me. He offered me his jacket once because he thought I was cold but kept on with his mean intense stare. This kept on going for a weeks until I started tearing up in class (I was developing a crush on him) because of how confused, violated, and taunted I felt by his looks. He came and spoke to me after that class and revealed a deep and intense attraction towards me. Even when they don't mean it, they make you cry hahaha! Same goes for Capricorn with me...I think it is sternness (Cap) and emotional intensity (Scorp) that can put me on edge and make me cry. Though I was never called out by a Scorpio for my "******** " because they are among the people that have always loved me deeply, same with Capricorn. IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag
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posted August 18, 2014 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
How funny! There was this very attractive Scorpio ASC guy in my class who used to stare at me very intensely that it made me squirm in discomfort. So much so, that I thought he hated me. He offered me his jacket once because he thought I was cold but kept on with his mean intense stare. This kept on going for a weeks until I started tearing up in class (I was developing a crush on him) because of how confused, violated, and taunted I felt by his looks. He came and spoke to me after that class and revealed a deep and intense attraction towards me. Even when they don't mean it, they make you cry hahaha! Same goes for Capricorn with me...I think it is sternness (Cap) and emotional intensity (Scorp) that can put me on edge and make me cry. Though I was never called out by a Scorpio for my "******** " because they are among the people that have always loved me deeply, same with Capricorn.
I love scorpios as well for calling people out on their bs, it makes my sag senses tingle  but sometimes it's hard to tell if they are deceiving you or being truthfully honest. (in the relationship department) I prefer to keep friends with Scorpio men. IP: Logged |
infinite.nebula
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posted August 18, 2014 01:21 PM
I call people out on their bs pretty often. It doesn't always end it tears I tend to slide my comment under the table. I try not to be very blunt about it but I'll laugh at someone who thinks their true motives aren't noticed or when they start pulling facts out of their a** I'll stop them dead and usually I can make it end in laughter. at least they are laughing in my place. Once they leave who knows what they say. I'm Scorpio asc Pluto in 12 house both at 15 degreesIP: Logged |
PisceanDream
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posted August 18, 2014 01:37 PM
I think because they can have such a strong intuitive understanding of the human psyche that they can also become adept at manipulation. Being heavily Piscean, this is also the case. It I s easy for me to discern whether or not people are being manipulative or are BSing. The only difference is that I avoid acting on my gut feeling or intuition for fear of misjudging someone. I cannot be very upfront with my thoughts or come at people very strongly as a Scorpio might. Having solid proof of someone's BS is another issue' even then I'm not particularly vengeful or mean about it though I am very clear and apathetic in my confrontation. If I am pushed to a hard limit, my sun and mercury square Pluto will become very prominent in my dealings with others, lulling down the Piscean compassion and docility. Forgiving comes very easily to me so long as I sense sincerity. No matter how badly someone has crossed me. Not so sure that is a Scorpio trait, hehe. Does making someone cry make you feel better? Does it feel like justice? What does it mean to you when you make someone cry? Not being accusative, just genuinely curious.IP: Logged |
infinite.nebula
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posted August 18, 2014 02:17 PM
I'm still learning to forgive myself and others. It's a lesson I'm still working at improving. Although I'd like to add
I don't like making people cry it makes my heart sink. I never know how to make a crying person feel better except maybe by hugging them and/or just listening to them... IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted August 18, 2014 09:39 PM
I don't remember making anyone cry, except for my ex. He was a Cancer thou, so that's kind of inevitable. (okay, okay, that's sort of a joke. *ducks rocks*)The thought of me making someone cry is actually both pleasant and unpleasant. There's a certain power that comes with it which is very gratifying for my ego but at the same time it's too hard on my consciousness. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 18, 2014 09:49 PM
I LOVE Capricorn / Scorpio people! I can roll with them 'cause I got thick skin myself.  In any case, my Scorpio friend has indeed made people cry but not intentionally. I don't know why people don't contain their emotions better, honestly. It's like you were wrong, why don't you just take responsibility for it and do better?. In any case the three people I can think of off the top of my hat was her Taurus sun, Virgo moon friend, her Aquarius Sun, Cancer Moon, Venus in Pisces boyfriend (so I'm with ya on that one Doux, REALLY easy....) and her Capricorn ASC, Scorpio Sun, Sag Moon friend. But.. if you ask me... all of them are weak and squishy too. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted August 18, 2014 10:01 PM
I am a Scorpio with Mercury(r), Venus, Jupiter, and Pluto in Scorpio.
Descendant in Scorpio.
Sun conjunct Pluto.
Mercury conjunct Venus.
Mars (1st degree Sagittarius) conjunct Pluto.
Mars conjunct descendant.
Pluto conjunct descendant.
Venus conjunct Jupiter.
Pluto is my 7th house ruler.
Mars is on the cusp of my 7th house.
Crying is so temporary.
Why not open old wounds or create some? My point is, when a Scorpio wants to hurt you, crying is too easy. We'll discover your weaknesses and then you them against you. The less evolved types will do this incessantly, but the 'normal' AND evolved types will only use this when we feel threatened or wronged in some way. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted August 18, 2014 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
when I enter a room I can just sense bs, call someone out on it and it looks like they are about to cry.
I don't know what you mean. Can you give an example? IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted August 18, 2014 10:07 PM
Actually in my experience Scorpio, Aries, Gemini and Sagittarius influenced people.. *think* they can make people cry. They think they are mean, whether intentionally or not - specially Mercury and Mars in those signs.
But to be honest (maybe this is a synastry thing) I don't feel at all affected by these signs. The only sign that can make me cry is Pisces - mainly feminine planets in Pisces. No one else seems to hurt me at all.. because I just don't take anything they say seriously - and I assume it will blow over.
Cancer-influence can annoy me to no end.. but they still don't hurt me. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
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posted August 18, 2014 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
The only sign that can make me cry is Pisces - mainly feminine planets in Pisces. No one else seems to hurt me at all.. because I just don't take anything they say seriously - and I assume it will blow over.
Cancer-influence can annoy me to no end.. but they still don't hurt me.
What about Pisces can make you cry? IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted August 18, 2014 11:37 PM
Pisces can penetrate my Capricorn Moon walls.. I can't keep them out, specially Pisces Moon (when it's sextile mine).. and once they're inside they can hurt me - It's not intentional for the most part.. but it can still happen. No one else gets through my walls.. unless I want them to and actually invite them in. But Pisces can get through -uninvited-.. which is scary for an emotional control freak lol IP: Logged |
MiaPluto
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posted August 19, 2014 02:01 AM
I have mars in Scorpio and 8th house.Because I have Pisces ascendant, libra moon and Venus, with Saturn in 1st house, it makes me the person who is pathetic and weak. But it's when I get angry that people can become scared of me. Also with my mercury square Pluto tightly, I say things and point out people's superficiality and it sometimes embarrass them and make them feel awkward but I love doing it. I love arguing/debating ever since I was little. I never get exhausted with mental stimulation of mind to prove oneself's beliefs or views. With my mars exactly square Jupiter in both fixed signs, I love arguing and to point out my beliefs. I love mind games. And it can exhaust others but I never get exhausted with it. Sometimes I go too far and then I regret it. And then I feel bad (because of my Pisces ascendant). ------------------
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charlie
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posted August 19, 2014 03:00 AM
Example: My mom is a Scorpio Sun, Moon, Mercury 8H
She can be MEAN but it doesn't stand a chance when following looses its patience: Sun (scorpio decan) , Moon (taurus decan), Mercury (scorpio) decan) sq Pluto
Her anger is pure. Mine is very dirty if you push my buttons. And yes, I have made her cry many times but not without me warning her prior.
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PixieJane
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posted August 19, 2014 03:10 AM
Can you share HOW it happened? That is, describe a specific incident (as "play by play" as possible), please. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted August 19, 2014 06:18 AM
I think it depends more on the other rather than the native. I know a double Cancer who just cries nearly for no reason.
And what about two Scorpios? Are they both going to be crying their eyes out? Some signs (to generalize) are much more likely to respond with anger. IP: Logged |
PeterPan
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posted August 19, 2014 07:28 AM
I have mars and mercury conjunct asc in taurusAll opposite pluto in 7th.
I tend to point it out immediately when people are trying to BS but i won't be a dick about it, ill just tell them "LOL that is bs" but if people are being manipulative i will get really angry.
But if they are just trying to impress me or something similar i won't make to much fuss about it as there is no need to and it would create allot of unecissairy conflict.
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Doux Rêve
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posted August 19, 2014 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I think it depends more on the other rather than the native.
Good point. Also depends on the relationship between the two people. For instance, it's easier to make a close person cry, rather than a stranger (generally). But the people who can be really nasty tend to have Mars/Saturn aspects or a prominent Mars and/or Saturn. There can be cruelty with those, and the actual desire to hurt (usually in response to hurt feelings, of course). I'd say Pluto acts in a less "brutal" way, almost... Saturn can be really bad when triggered the wrong way. Although I find it hard to separate the two energies because they're in a tight aspect in my own chart. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted August 19, 2014 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Good point.Also depends on the relationship between the two people. For instance, it's easier to make a close person cry, rather than a stranger (generally). But the people who can be really nasty tend to have Mars/Saturn aspects or a prominent Mars and/or Saturn. There can be cruelty with those, and the actual desire to hurt (usually in response to hurt feelings, of course). I'd say Pluto acts in a less "brutal" way, almost... Saturn can be really bad when triggered the wrong way. Although I find it hard to separate the two energies because they're in a tight aspect in my own chart.
Yep, and me. I just don't cry much. But if I do I'm most likely to wait until I'm alone. So... It's a tough one to really know as far as a certain sign.
Relationship between them makes the difference Imo. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted August 19, 2014 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Good point.Also depends on the relationship between the two people. For instance, it's easier to make a close person cry, rather than a stranger (generally). But the people who can be really nasty tend to have Mars/Saturn aspects or a prominent Mars and/or Saturn. There can be cruelty with those, and the actual desire to hurt (usually in response to hurt feelings, of course). I'd say Pluto acts in a less "brutal" way, almost... Saturn can be really bad when triggered the wrong way. Although I find it hard to separate the two energies because they're in a tight aspect in my own chart.
Wow this explains a lot.
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NeptunianSag
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posted August 19, 2014 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Can you share HOW it happened? That is, describe a specific incident (as "play by play" as possible), please.
I was in a job meeting, the host was giving us a talk about their company what they do ect, I just felt an air of distrust surrounding it. I asked probing questions to try and know the truth of the situation, the man looked like he was about to cry/get on the defensive because I was sifting through all the bs. Im not sadistic and i dont mean to make people cry intentionally, but im wondering if this is a thing woth scorpios, like unintentionally make people cry. My progressed asc scorpio and my progressed Pluto is in the 1st, I'm just wondering if it is taking effect. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
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posted August 19, 2014 12:23 PM
The reasons why Caps and Scorps can make me cry are very different from each other. So I'll look into my natal to explain why. Scorpio energy overwhelms me emotionally because it is not at all foreign to the Pisces in me but it simultaneously creates a feeling of extreme discomfort to the Air in me. My moon being in Gemini cannot handle being battered and beaten down by Scorpio's emotional storm. I don't cry because they hurt HURT me but rather because they just don't stop when they're angry... They just keep going trying to thaw my coolness. My Aqua ASC and Mars are baffled by this. My moon is sick and tired and bored of hearing the same thing. They always sound extremely irrational to me but their emotions are always accessible within me. I feel for them, I get them so well. I understand them intuitively, although they always think I don't. They always manage to create tension between the Air and Water forces operating within me, until I start to cry out of frustration because I don't know which side to appeal to, because I feel overloaded... They challenge me in that sense but they do not hit the core of me. They don't pain me nearly as much as they frustrate me to tears. Caps on the other hand absolutely hit my core, they are the ones that make me wallow in the pain they've caused me. It doesn't have to even be harsh. A "goodbye" in the middle of an argument with them and I'd be crying fountains. Being ignored by them, being responded to coldly.... Wow. It hurts like no other. Cap is in the cusp of my 12th but to make it more complicated, my ASC ruler (bearing in its belly a nice 1st house stellium) is in the 12th. Everything that I am is poured into the 12th so when a personal planet sits there, how it operates and what it does will be an absolute make or break for me. I always say if I am to be completely destroyed, it'll be under the hands of a Capricorn. The converse is also true. IP: Logged |
theunknown
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posted August 19, 2014 12:44 PM
I have pluto on the 7th opposite ASC, square sun and mercury, heavy saturn, and all the aqua airiness. I know I can hurt people badly. It's a mixed of saturnian accusation that someone was sloppy and the plutonian response: "I will never trust you ever again. Take that to heart!"I also attract people who have combination of air and pluto and they have hurt me before. For saturnian people, at least I can feel certain understanding that I have wronged them in some way. But scorpio-influenced people can just be so vengeful, so manipulative. Then my aqua sun just walks away and then they act like they are hurt. IP: Logged |
Alishia@
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posted August 19, 2014 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
How funny! There was this very attractive Scorpio ASC guy in my class who used to stare at me very intensely that it made me squirm in discomfort. So much so, that I thought he hated me. He offered me his jacket once because he thought I was cold but kept on with his mean intense stare. This kept on going for a weeks until I started tearing up in class (I was developing a crush on him) because of how confused, violated, and taunted I felt by his looks. He came and spoke to me after that class and revealed a deep and intense attraction towards me. Even when they don't mean it, they make you cry hahaha! Same goes for Capricorn with me...I think it is sternness (Cap) and emotional intensity (Scorp) that can put me on edge and make me cry. Though I was never called out by a Scorpio for my "******** " because they are among the people that have always loved me deeply, same with Capricorn.
I felt people have talked to me about that stern stare . Lol they thought they did something Wrong and were very uncomfortable but honestly I'm just analyzing what their saying trying to figure the person out IP: Logged |
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