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NeptunianSag
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posted August 20, 2014 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon in Virgo (11th house) inconjunct Saturn in 4th house, does anyone else with these placements feel 'empty' kind of like an ongoing mild depression where you just don't really care for much. Also my relationship with my mother has always been hard, she's soooo draining and serious.

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posted August 20, 2014 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflower-moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I have Moon opposite Saturn & Moon conjunct Chiron, 11th/5th house axis. My parents divorced when I was 10 and I lived with my dad, but even before that I never really had a relationship with my mom. At least not a close one. We currently do not have a relationship at all because she has mental health issues (well my sister and I think so, she doesn't) and, after years of trying to get past that and accept it, I just can't continue to put myself through her drama. It was becoming very unhealthy and affecting me in horrible ways so I had to move on. At one point during one of her outbursts, she told me she never felt a bond with me, not even when I was a baby so I guess we, too, always had a hard/empty relationship. I've seen it a lot on here with negative Moon/Saturn aspects. My sister is still trying with my mom, though there is definitely some distance. They've had a much better connection than I've ever had with her, but there is still fighting with them. I guess she can handle it better than I can. She has Moon trine Sun and Moon (4th) square Pluto (8th). Her experiences/relationship with my mom probably wouldn't be described as cold or empty, but I would say intense, manipulative, obsessive, etc. General themes associated with Pluto. I was quite surprised when I got into Astrology and saw these themes within our chart, to say the least lol. I was amazed at how accurate it was.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 20, 2014 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I have moon in Virgo (11th house) inconjunct Saturn in 4th house, does anyone else with these placements feel 'empty' kind of like an ongoing mild depression where you just don't really care for much. Also my relationship with my mother has always been hard, she's soooo draining and serious.

I think Saturn on the angle can give one a "sober" view of life. The depression comes from wanting more authenticity but finding that you often plateux on the mundane and wonder "is this really it?"

Or at-least that is my view because I have Saturn in 7th house angle and my goodness, I can be so melancholic.

When Saturn is on the angle, one can have people "expect" great things from them- because the person seems so grounded, mature and capable.

Do you feel your relationship with you mother lacks the maternal affection that you yearn for. Like it always has?

Well if so, you can join the club because Saturn on the angle is assumed to "have it together" and so people assume that you don't need much and ca do without sentimentality.

Do you find yourself avoiding that type of maternal affection with relationships that you make around you?

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amelia28
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posted August 20, 2014 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I have moon in Virgo (11th house) inconjunct Saturn in 4th house, does anyone else with these placements feel 'empty' kind of like an ongoing mild depression where you just don't really care for much. Also my relationship with my mother has always been hard, she's soooo draining and serious.

Hi,

My dad has Moon in Virgo:

Moon Trine Sun
Moon BQ Jupiter
Moon Conjunt Saturn
Moon Quintile Uranus
Moon Semisextile Neptune
Moon Semisextile Pluto


My Grandmother and Grandfather had an amazing marriage that the entire family looked up to and saw as a role model.

My dad only married once, my mother and they are together still.

My dad had a good relationship with his mother. My grandmother who was very loved by her kids and grandkids was not very emotionally nurturing; she was not the affectionate type but showed her love in other ways.

My dad does not suffer from depression; I dont think he ever has. He is one of the most balanced people I know and has a very positive outlook in life tbh and calm personality.

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