posted August 22, 2014 03:25 AM            

I see ancient astrology sees it like that and at first i was iffy but after watching the video all that she said about the conjunction matched up with me.

posted August 22, 2014 03:29 AM            

I notice it a lot in others, too, and sometimes in synastry.

posted August 22, 2014 05:18 AM            

If someone has Mars in the 12th house, they may think that it is "beyond" them to express rage and anger.

As such, many assume that they don't get angry and don't ever lose their cool.

But this energy may manifest in not-so good ways i.e The person is physically attacked, he/she is subjected to abuse or they are victims of violent acts etc.

So similarly, if you have Sun forming an out of aspect conjunction with Mercury, you will not think of yourself as a changeable person. You will not appreciate your ability to be able to process information quickly and you may even be very soft-spoken and quiet.

But you will find yourself drawn to a communication field, find yourself with friends who are a lot more talkative than you are or be drawn to mercury-heavy jobs/careers etc.

posted August 22, 2014 06:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
So, if you have venus conj. ascendant (7d) and sun conj. venus (11d) you are likely blind to how beautiful and charming you are

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There is no hard and fast rule. You have to do your own assessment.

That's why some astrologers have orbs as wide as 10 Degrees for conjunctions-whilst others allow for an 8 Degree orb.

In your case,Venus conjunct Asc. The Ascendant is the sensitive point and Venus the fixed point.

So here, if Venus is "behind" the Asc i.e Asc in Scorpio 10 Degrees and Venus is 3 Degrees,it'll "retain" the 12th house properties.

The further it is(say (Venus at 28 Degrees of Libra),the more likely that it'll fade from being acknowledged by the Asc point and "fall" into the 12th house.

But if Venus is in 7 Degrees of Scorpio(still in the same example). The degree orb between Venus and the 1st house cusp is less and so the Venus position can seem to exhibit the qualities of the 1st house placement.

The 12th house properties are still there, but not as vivid as those of the person in the previous example.

This is even more so if Venus is in 9 Deg of Scorpio.Some even go as far as to say that it is within the 1st house-because of the 1 Degree orb.

In the above example, the 12th house properties may be so feint and miniscule, that they won't matter.

But also ask yourself;

1.Do you find that personal appearance is very important?

2.Do you find that you go all out to be nice to people?

3.Do you find it difficult to "speak your mind" for fear that someone will be hurt?

4.Do you worry a lot about what people think of you?

5. Are you sensitive to smells,ambiance, mannerisms and the looks of places,things and people?

posted August 22, 2014 06:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

But also ask yourself;

1.Do you find that personal appearance is very important?

2.Do you find that you go all out to be nice to people?

3.Do you find it difficult to "speak your mind" for fear that someone will be hurt?

4.Do you worry a lot about what people think of you?

5. Are you sensitive to smells,ambiance, mannerisms and the looks of places,things and people?

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Wow, thank you for the answ. Actually, I have a venus 12h cancer and sun in 1st cancer.

1. I am vain but I don't judge people by their looks (at least I don't try to)

2. Def. no. I can be very blunt (merc in leo)

3. Yes, absolutely. Exception: when i am p*ssed off

4. to be honest: yes. I used to be very worried when I was younger but since i am in my 30s I really care less

posted August 22, 2014 07:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Wow, thank you for the answ. Actually, I have a venus 12h cancer and sun in 1st cancer.

1. I am vain but I don't judge people by their looks (at least I don't try to)

2. Def. no. I can be very blunt (merc in leo)

3. Yes, absolutely. Exception: when i am p*ssed off

4. to be honest: yes. I used to be very worried when I was younger but since i am in my 30s I really care less

5. yes and no. I don't like if my nose is being raped by bad smells but I know there is more than appearance

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Sun and Venus in 1st tend to care for their appearance. So I can understand why you would be confused.

But there are differences; the Sun in 1st REALLY CARES and makes an effort when stepping outside the door.

They tend to want their personality to be "the main event" lol. They may not openly admit it, but they really like it when they are gravitated to the centre of a conversation.

If you isolate,ignore or don't acknowledge them, you really p** them off.

Venus in 1st focuses on etiquette and appropriateness i.e dressing according to fashions,using words like "please" "thank you" "may I?" etc. They are very careful about coming across non-threatening.

Some may even prefer to be in the background- much like 12th house people.

The very clear difference however, is that the Venus in 1st house people in the above instance often get praises for "shunning" the spotlight.

You will often find many people say of the Venus in 1st; "Zanele is so beautiful.But she isn't pigheaded about it," or "Bongani is so gorgeous, but he plays it down a lot" etc.

Generally people are very drawn to them because they seem so "balanced". They tend to become popular effortlessly.

posted August 22, 2014 07:56 AM            

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Originally posted by lvASTRO:
I think it holds some validity, especially with personal planets. Transpersonal (generational) planets are so slow moving, I think not so much.

I notice it a lot in others, too, and sometimes in synastry.

I think at the heart of it, a Cap moon at 25 degrees should still have the rapport with a Cap Sun at 13 degrees based on a common energy/understanding.

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Completely agree with you. A planet doesn't end it's influence just because of a wide orb. Whether at 2 degrees or 28 degrees of separation an Aquarius will still have similar traits, etc.