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NeptunianSag
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posted August 23, 2014 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What makes someone hesitant when it comes to love and expressing it? I have Saturn and Venus conjunct in 4th and its really hard for me to trust fully and that's why I find it hard to actually share myself. Also I'm scared of messing up and I don't have time for people who take advantage of me.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 23, 2014 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
What makes someone hesitant when it comes to love and expressing it? I have Saturn and Venus conjunct in 4th and its really hard for me to trust fully and that's why I find it hard to actually share myself.

Preach!!! Venus conjunct Saturn too -guilty as charged.

I have Moon in Cancer which I am convinced is by far the trickiest position for a man in finding a suitable mate. This position is heavy-going for partnership.

And because it squares my natal Mars, I get defensive when someone tries to get close. I fear getting hurt so much that I shut people out.

I am actually close to tears saying this because I don't know how many people that I have reacted very badly to when they tried to love me.

My current BF also has Venus conjunct Saturn with Moon Scorpio and he has nerves of steel.
He doesn't let up and is not easily discouraged by my changeable nature at ALL.

I always assumed I'd be single because I am so "unlovable". But some people show up in one's life to prove that wrong.

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posted August 23, 2014 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in the 5th or 7th house maybe?

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NeptunianSag
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posted August 23, 2014 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Chiron in the 5th or 7th house maybe?

Funny because Chiron is transitting my 5th right now and so is Neptune and I just want to bury my head in the sand and run away when it comes to love.

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next to neptune
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posted August 23, 2014 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone with an afflicted 5th house ruler, an afflicted or malefic moon, no water in the chart, empty 5th house and afflicted venus also…

I have a very afflicted moon in pisces and it is hard for me sometimes to express love… my 5th house is in libra, and my venus is in scorpio also in 5th house…. I also have pluto there, but also lilith. And my venus is well aspected, so I feel that I do have a lot of love to give, and that I love very deep and affectionate, but it can be hard for me to trust people and show them how much they mean to me…

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posted August 23, 2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Chiron in the 5th or 7th house maybe?

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posted August 23, 2014 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Someone with an afflicted 5th house ruler, an afflicted or malefic moon, no water in the chart, empty 5th house and afflicted venus also…


Sigh, this topic again...

However, I do have Libra ruling my 5th house and my Venus is pretty f.cked by Saturn and Neptune. They're both in my 7th house, squaring my 11H Aries Venus. So basically my life lesson is to learn not to be afraid while in relationships, not fear relationships, and to see them for what they are. For the most part I think I've overcome a lot but I'm still working on enjoying the moment while it lasts. I have a habit of getting impatient waiting for the expiration date; I expect failure, however that's probably what drew me to them in the first place subconsciously (Mars in the 12th plus Venus square Neptune.)

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posted August 23, 2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the asteroid world it would be...

Saturn square Valentine exact.
Maybe Neptune too.

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posted August 23, 2014 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GemBird82:
In the asteroid world it would be...

Saturn square Valentine exact.
Maybe Neptune too.


Pluto square Valentine? *facepalm*

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athenegoddess
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posted August 23, 2014 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venus/chiron
moon/saturn
saturn/amor

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posted August 24, 2014 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Preach!!! Venus conjunct Saturn too -guilty as charged.

I have Moon in Cancer which I am convinced is by far the trickiest position for a man in finding a suitable mate. This position is heavy-going for partnership.

And because it squares my natal Mars, I get defensive when someone tries to get close. I fear getting hurt so much that I shut people out.

I am actually close to tears saying this because I don't know how many people that I have reacted very badly to when they tried to love me.

My current BF also has Venus conjunct Saturn with Moon Scorpio and he has nerves of steel.
He doesn't let up and is not easily discouraged by my changeable nature at ALL.

I always assumed I'd be single because I am so "unlovable". But some people show up in one's life to prove that wrong.


I think you might be my twin lol. I have Venus conj Saturn. And cancer moon square mars.

I shut people out too. The worst part is I can see myself doing it, I can see it happening but I feel so powerless to stop myself. I am too scared of getting hurt, even though shutting people out ends up hurting me anyways, and not matter what I do I still get hurt lol.

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posted August 24, 2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, self sabotage! I know nothing about THAT. Venus is at the apex of one of my yods. Venus takes a beating from Saturn & Mars. I wrestle with trust issues.

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charlie
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posted August 24, 2014 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just uttered the words "I love you" for the 1st time in 6 years :-/ I am bloody petrified and SO not in my element. I actually think I want to throw up and I am not even exaggerating. I too have Venus conj Saturn in 11H (out of sign) . Venus is sq Chiron, Uranus.

Cap Moon op Saturn.

Saturn sq Amor.

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I'm so cappy
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posted August 24, 2014 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I just uttered the words "I love you" for the 1st time in 6 years :-/



I hope you meant it

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charlie
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posted August 24, 2014 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]I just uttered the words "I love you" for the 1st time in 6 years :-/



I hope you meant it

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LOL

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Yanmorg
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posted August 24, 2014 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moon-uranus hard aspects.
Venus-Uranus hard aspects.
moon-Pluto hard aspects.
Venus-Pluto hard aspects.
moon-Saturn hard aspects.
Venus-Saturn hard aspects.

Chiron in the 5th house.
Chiron in the 7th house.

Venus retrograde in Scorpio.
Venus retrograde in Cancer.
Venus retrograde in Capricorn.

Moon in the 8th house.
Venus in the 8th house.
Saturn in the 8th house.

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theunknown
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posted August 24, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Someone with an afflicted 5th house ruler, an afflicted or malefic moon, no water in the chart, empty 5th house and afflicted venus

I checkout all of these except empty 5th. I have pluto opp Asc in the mix as well. So a commitment phone who wants intense passionate partnership
I would add Saturn in 5th

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PisceanDream
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posted August 25, 2014 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conjunct Saturn takes the crown for this one. I have it in my chart in the 1st house square my Moon in the 5th. It's funny because I fear love and commitment, so light-hearted, witty and short-lived romances are comfortable for me. The moment feelings are involved I start to panic.

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posted August 26, 2014 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Venus conjunct Saturn takes the crown for this one. I have it in my chart in the 1st house square my Moon in the 5th. It's funny because I fear love and commitment, so light-hearted, witty and short-lived romances are comfortable for me. The moment feelings are involved I start to panic.

Me too I have fun until, I develop feelings.

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