posted August 23, 2014 04:37 PM            

I feel my life has always been very unstable and when things just start to calm down, something new happens or I screw it all up. It has always been hard for me to maintain a good job, maintain good friends, boyfriends, everything that seems nice in my life.

posted August 24, 2014 03:52 AM            

In a natal chart, can one "escape" this influence? I think not. One will always be restless and want to shake things up etc.

I have the transit of Uranus sitting on my natal Moon/Mercury and Mars right now. But there are no real disturbing disruptions yet

I have however, being toying with the idea of leaving the country of my birth. Maybe even for good.

posted August 24, 2014 05:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

In a natal chart, can one "escape" this influence? I think not. One will always be restless and want to shake things up etc.

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posted August 24, 2014 06:24 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
What house is your uranus in? Cause I keep getting the feeling that with uranus in the 6th house, it means I want to shake things up - in my everyday life. Which is pretty much everything I have on a daily basis. I don't really understand this placement I think.

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My Uranus is on the angle (7th). think I often ignore it and don't talk about it as its really quite an irritant. Lol

You are right in that analysis of the 6th- wanting to "shake things up" in your everyday life.

It could also mean that you either find new, ingenious ways of doing your chores or avoid them altogether. Sticking to a schedule may be a problem, you may be late for work a lot or work in an environment that allows much "come and go"-so long as the work is done etc.

posted August 24, 2014 12:28 PM            

What is normal and appreciated by other people, for Uranians will be upside down.

But that's the best part of it. You are the one in a crowd, somehow special.

Your friends, your love life and your career roads and rivers are unusual, original, different and exciting.

I've never had a normal love life. I had always fell for unreachable, unavailable or just not interested in me people. Thatd DID hurt.
And I've never been a normal person at all. I was always weird, exciting, unusual, ideas-machine with a sense of humour.
And I'm soo freedom-addict. I can never really connect to people. Which my Cancer Moon and Sun so yearns for...And I have that big tencency to run away without warning. I just need my space to be different, but never alone. I can't stand being alone (four planets in 11th talking here).

posted August 24, 2014 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by AquaTheMassaquoi:
Actually, no. They can't have a stable or let's call it like that - NORMAL life.

What is normal and appreciated by other people, for Uranians will be upside down.

But that's the best part of it. You are the one in a crowd, somehow special.

Your friends, your love life and your career roads and rivers are unusual, original, different and exciting.

I've never had a normal love life. I had always fell for unreachable, unavailable or just not interested in me people. Thatd DID hurt.
And I've never been a normal person at all. I was always weird, exciting, unusual, ideas-machine with a sense of humour.
And I'm soo freedom-addict. I can never really connect to people. Which my Cancer Moon and Sun so yearns for...And I have that big tencency to run away without warning. I just need my space to be different, but never alone. I can't stand being alone (four planets in 11th talking here).

You will have to accept that part of yours, Uranus makes no exceptions

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But I am more lunar and saturnian than I am uranian. My uranus is not my strongest planet at all! First comes Moon, then Saturn, then Mercury, then I think jupiter/neptune and THEN uranus I think:S (according to pullen)
But I think my uranus has a deep impact in my life whatsoever.

And it makes it very hard for me to accept. I'm a virgo sun with pisces moon, most planets in capricorn and cancer asc/jupiter. I need stability, even with all the mutable. I hate too much change, and I don't feel very adaptable or quick moving. I'm slow and not so flexible.

posted August 24, 2014 01:09 PM            

I think the only way for me to have a somewhat normal existence is to live on my own and not date long term NOR stay in same country or have same job for too long.

posted August 24, 2014 01:31 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Maybe. I have the same experience as you. Every time something goes good and stable, it gets ripped apart. My suggestion is to be okay with changes, and to find someone who is very Uranian too. Someone who doesn't mind the changes and will be riding along with you rather than standing back in bewilderment lol.

Do you ever find yourself self sabotaging when things get too good? Like when you have a stable job you get bored and sick of it and stop caring so you screw up? Or when you have a nice home life you suddenly want to move? Or when your relationship is going well you get uneasy and think because you aren't fighting he he might not love you anymore so you start drama?

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I used to be like that. But now I do have nice friends and a nice boyfriend, which I am not going to screw up. If things screw up here again, it will be because of outer changes that force me away from people, but I don't think that. My relationships and friendships have gone through a LOT so it is stable now, thank god!
I don't feel the need to screw things up anymore… I really, utterly just want to have a nice life, it doesn't have to be normal, but it is physically and mentally very hard for me to put up with too many changes. Everytime I go through a sudden change, I feel I have to start from scratch again and it is literally exhausting my body and soul. I feel that if things can never be stable I might become really physically or mentally ill, because of too much stress.

posted August 24, 2014 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

I am surprised at the length of my current relationship as my relationships don't usually last. But hey,its going strong.

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posted August 24, 2014 06:19 PM              

Instability when it comes to sex and intimacy?

I wonder how this plays out considering I'm a Scorpio with my Mercury(r), Venus, Jupiter, and Pluto all in Scorpio. My descendant is also in Scorpio.

I do also have a moon-uranus square.

posted August 24, 2014 09:03 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I used to be like that. But now I do have nice friends and a nice boyfriend, which I am not going to screw up. If things screw up here again, it will be because of outer changes that force me away from people, but I don't think that. My relationships and friendships have gone through a LOT so it is stable now, thank god!
I don't feel the need to screw things up anymore… I really, utterly just want to have a nice life, it doesn't have to be normal, but it is physically and mentally very hard for me to put up with too many changes. Everytime I go through a sudden change, I feel I have to start from scratch again and it is literally exhausting my body and soul. I feel that if things can never be stable I might become really physically or mentally ill, because of too much stress.

It has always been okay with me to be free to do what I want, and I never crave that from others either. Many of my closest friends and also my boyfriend is highly uranian, and I always let them run free, I am not jealous and only want the best for them. So they stick around… my relations are very unusual, but that suits me well. I like being unusual. But its just the changes that sets me back to scratch where I feel I cannot build things up, because they fall apart again - that's the frustrating part

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posted August 25, 2014 04:59 AM            

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Originally posted by florence:
I feel like this a lot but I felt like it a lot more in the past. I think in the last few years I've been focused on work requiring a lot of changes, creativity and invention so it's shifted more to a mental level. But it's not entirely healthy as I'd brought so many changes in succession upon me that I retreated into the opposite extremity of fearing changes, being a hermit and closed off to life so still not found the balance

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posted August 26, 2014 09:24 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Uranians don't want a stable life... Whether they admit it or not

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posted August 26, 2014 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
So what happens when you have saturn and uranus in the same house?? Wanting stability but still not really… its the most frustrating yin/yang ever

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Next to Neptune,

I have two stelliums. One in Aqua and One in Capricorn. My Saturn is in Aqua and my Uranus is in Cap. I understand that Saturn is also an Aqua ruler but it is definitely more of a Cap ruler (10th house) than Aqua. This means I have ruler of exciting aquarian energy in Capricorn and ruler of the traditional Cappy energy in Aquarius.

It dawned on me this year that through out my life, I have tried to be structured and normal (Saturn) but something keeps pushing me away from choosing the normal things in life. My life has been all about being different, and it is not always a conscious choice on my part. In fact, I have in the past made the conscious choice to be "normal" but something keeps pulling me away and then I ended up insisting on an abnormal path.

I call this the Uranian instinct. People describe this energy as electric. For real human beings who go through lives, we don't just see something and become analytical enough to call it electric connection. We just do things instinctually. For Uranian individuals, it is the instinct to do something out-of-the-norm. We are naturally attracted to these choices. We don't go through life thinking consciously that we want to be out-of-the-norm but rather these choices excite us.

I know this is a round-about answer to your question. I don't claim to have any answers, to be honest. This year, when transit Saturn conjunct my natal pluto in 7th, I realize I had to come to the truth and remove all the excess.

The truth is that as a Saturnian and Uranian individual, this is who I am. Wandering, making instinctual choices, not living up to what is considered traditional life .... At some point I just have to admit that if I make another effort to live normally (again!), then such life style wouldn't last long. I would move again, or do something strange again just because I would feel so bored, so tired, so sick in my bones that I just need to break free.

Once you admit to yourself who you are, you will know how to proceed in life.

I tend to manage a 9-5 life (Saturn) with some Uranian projects on the side. I also travel to different countries every few years. See, as a Saturnian, I can't do a backpacker life. But I can do it for a few months or so.

posted August 26, 2014 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Twirl:
I have Uranus conjunct my north node in the 6th & an aquarius MC. Best thing for me was to completely stop trying to arrange anything that's considered "normal" by others, like stable jobs and such. I now completely live by my "inner clock" & build my own routines & activities work wise. I noticed by working like that, in your own unique way things do tend to role & work for you. Whenever I tried to fit into something "ordinary" it fell through & made me quite miserable on top of it.
Hope that helps

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posted August 26, 2014 07:46 PM              

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
So what happens when you have saturn and uranus in the same house?? Wanting stability but still not really… its the most frustrating yin/yang ever

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posted August 26, 2014 07:48 PM              

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I used to be like that. But now I do have nice friends and a nice boyfriend, which I am not going to screw up. If things screw up here again, it will be because of outer changes that force me away from people, but I don't think that. My relationships and friendships have gone through a LOT so it is stable now, thank god!
I don't feel the need to screw things up anymore… I really, utterly just want to have a nice life, it doesn't have to be normal, but it is physically and mentally very hard for me to put up with too many changes. Everytime I go through a sudden change, I feel I have to start from scratch again and it is literally exhausting my body and soul. I feel that if things can never be stable I might become really physically or mentally ill, because of too much stress.

It has always been okay with me to be free to do what I want, and I never crave that from others either. Many of my closest friends and also my boyfriend is highly uranian, and I always let them run free, I am not jealous and only want the best for them. So they stick around… my relations are very unusual, but that suits me well. I like being unusual. But its just the changes that sets me back to scratch where I feel I cannot build things up, because they fall apart again - that's the frustrating part

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When I get over the shock of everything falling apart, I like rebuilding. I've hit rock bottom a few times but it gives me the fuel to be reborn and do better. Maybe that's a Saturn and Pluto thing in addition to Uranus.

posted August 27, 2014 04:49 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Next to Neptune,

I have two stelliums. One in Aqua and One in Capricorn. My Saturn is in Aqua and my Uranus is in Cap. I understand that Saturn is also an Aqua ruler but it is definitely more of a Cap ruler (10th house) than Aqua. This means I have ruler of exciting aquarian energy in Capricorn and ruler of the traditional Cappy energy in Aquarius.

It dawned on me this year that through out my life, I have tried to be structured and normal (Saturn) but something keeps pushing me away from choosing the normal things in life. My life has been all about being different, and it is not always a conscious choice on my part. In fact, I have in the past made the conscious choice to be "normal" but something keeps pulling me away and then I ended up insisting on an abnormal path.

I call this the Uranian instinct. People describe this energy as electric. For real human beings who go through lives, we don't just see something and become analytical enough to call it electric connection. We just do things instinctually. For Uranian individuals, it is the instinct to do something out-of-the-norm. We are naturally attracted to these choices. We don't go through life thinking consciously that we want to be out-of-the-norm but rather these choices excite us.

I know this is a round-about answer to your question. I don't claim to have any answers, to be honest. This year, when transit Saturn conjunct my natal pluto in 7th, I realize I had to come to the truth and remove all the excess.

The truth is that as a Saturnian and Uranian individual, this is who I am. Wandering, making instinctual choices, not living up to what is considered traditional life .... At some point I just have to admit that if I make another effort to live normally (again!), then such life style wouldn't last long. I would move again, or do something strange again just because I would feel so bored, so tired, so sick in my bones that I just need to break free.

Once you admit to yourself who you are, you will know how to proceed in life.

I tend to manage a 9-5 life (Saturn) with some Uranian projects on the side. I also travel to different countries every few years. See, as a Saturnian, I can't do a backpacker life. But I can do it for a few months or so.

I just choose to make this combination a lifestyle.

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I love your answer! You may think it is round-a-bout but you gave a whole new way of thinking about being both uranian and saturnian at once… I am much more saturnian (says pullen) than uranian, but Uranus touch my most personal planets, and thats why I feel it so much more than Saturn. Saturn just feels like an overall guide who sits on my shoulder and wants me to have a stable life. You are right about that I have to realize it's not who I am, yet I am not uranian enough to just backpack around earth and not having any plans for my life.

It's also that Saturn is so ambitious and wants to make plans, it wants to keep clamping up the mountain where it can see the horizon. Uranus don't care about that much, they want to see something completely else in life.

But I am sure, just as you describe it, that there is a way to combine these two planets and really make an ideal life. A life that both satisfy Saturn and Uranus