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Topic: Dealing with Cancer Mars
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1217 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 25, 2014 09:52 AM
So I realize I have been caught up resolving problems between people with Cancer mars because they are too passive aggressive to talk to each other. And then I started looking up charts of all the people around me who have low drives whom I have to keep pushing to make sure they do something. Guess what, they all have cancer mars. My cap mars is really tired at this point and wonder if any of you have suggestions dealing with cancer mars. They clearly do not communicate with me their problems and then just passive aggressively do things to hopefully provoke me enough so I can take up whatever left-over business they had. My bad for ranting IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1503 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 25, 2014 11:11 AM
What you should be looking at is what's in your chart that is causing you to give extra attention to these people when you don't want to.IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1217 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 25, 2014 11:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: What you should be looking at is what's in your chart that is causing you to give extra attention to these people when you don't want to.
I have cap stellium (venus-mars-neptune-uranus), aries moon. IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1503 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 25, 2014 11:40 AM
So, there are some oppositions and a square maybe. It is a possibility that your view with these people is different side of the coin.Why do you feel the need to push these people when it is exhausting you? IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1217 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 25, 2014 11:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: So, there are some oppositions and a square maybe. It is a possibility that your view with these people is different side of the coin.Why do you feel the need to push these people when it is exhausting you?
because they promise to do certain things that affect me and then never do it. Also, when they need to get certain things done, they ask me to do it for them. It is reaching a point where I just can't always do things for them .... So I am trying to find a nice way to respond to all the whines IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1503 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 25, 2014 12:11 PM
unknown, you don't need to find a nice way , you need to be honest. So they are not left confused.if they are promising things and then disappointing you dont let them disappoint you any longer. Do you have any libra placements or influence? IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 2351 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted August 25, 2014 12:55 PM
My dad is a Cancer mars and I have dated 3. My mom and current boyfriend are Cap Mars'. They will hold a grudge, for always, and sadly they don't seem to let go. Ever. IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1217 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 25, 2014 01:54 PM
Charlie,Are you talking about cancer mars or cap mars holding grudge? Violet7878: Good call! I have taurus rising, venus and neptune trine asc and 11th moon. My concern is that I know cancer mars natives are very sensitive and I am low on water so I don't want to rub them the wrong way. But I feel like an emotional trash can more than ever before IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1164 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 25, 2014 02:22 PM
Just dont push us to do things we don't want to do. We'll come around to you, eventually. We move slow, so you have to be patient. In my experience I don't like pushy/bullying people.IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1503 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 25, 2014 02:54 PM
The venus/neptune could be apart of your problem. It is something that has to be worked through over many experiences I think. You have to learn where you are giving too much when you should not be.If you feel there is something wrong tell them and go on with your work. That's all you have in your reach to do. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 1025 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 25, 2014 03:15 PM
Cancer Mars is very sensitive and tends to be defensive about their feelings.When an argument erupts and Cancer Mars is involved,a "shutdown" or standoff can be expected. Because when feelings are involved, these guys cannot see anything from a rational perspective. It really is not up to you to solve these problems.The issue started with them and should be resolved between them. The good new is, they both have Cancer Mars and so the best you can do is supply a platform for them to talk about their feelings and how much the other hurt them etc. Then you can encourage each individually to initiate a reconciliation-but don't push it.Stand back and let them take it from there. Do note however,this will happen quite a lot. IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1217 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 25, 2014 03:44 PM
Violet: I definitely should work on this problem quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Cancer Mars is very sensitive and tends to be defensive about their feelings.When an argument erupts and Cancer Mars is involved,a "shutdown" or standoff can be expected. Because when feelings are involved, these guys cannot see anything from a rational perspective. It really is not up to you to solve these problems.The issue started with them and should be resolved between them. The good new is, they both have Cancer Mars and so the best you can do is supply a platform for them to talk about their feelings and how much the other hurt them etc. Then you can encourage each individually to initiate a reconciliation-but don't push it.Stand back and let them take it from there. Do note however,this will happen quite a lot.
Great advices! Especially the part of about the fact that it is not up to me. Thanks! IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1503 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 25, 2014 03:51 PM
I notice 2 different people here have suggested don't push it. There is a difference between don't push it and beating around the bush.I will suggest don't beat around the bush. Be direct, don't play games. Stand with what you want to say clearly. The more you beat around the bush, the more the situation, what ever it maybe, will get worst. best of luck unknown IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 553 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted August 25, 2014 04:05 PM
Im a cancer mars i recommend you be direct but dont make it seem like your "telling" them to do something when a cancer mars gets emotional they dont want to be "commanded" to do anything they put walls up when they feel uncomfortable in a situation just plant the idea in there head and make them seem like they choose the decision on there own time, i know how to talk to a cancer mars lol i dated a cancer mars/moon for a long time you have to be aware of how "hardheaded" we can get when put into an uncomfortable situation the crab shell just comes outIP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 2351 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted August 25, 2014 04:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by theunknown: Charlie,Are you talking about cancer mars or cap mars holding grudge? Violet7878: Good call! I have taurus rising, venus and neptune trine asc and 11th moon. My concern is that I know cancer mars natives are very sensitive and I am low on water so I don't want to rub them the wrong way. But I feel like an emotional trash can more than ever before
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violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1503 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 25, 2014 05:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: just plant the idea in there head and make them seem like they choose the decision on there own time, i know how to talk to a cancer mars lol i dated a cancer mars/moon for a long time
never try to sideways manipulate a cancer moon person. lol
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1217 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 25, 2014 09:46 PM
To add to it, one has cancer moon cap sun. One is a cancer sun.I also know 2 sags with cancer mars... My last roommate was a cap sun cancer mars. She was sooo messy but when I commented on it, the crabby part really shows so I just shut up and left. IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 231 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted August 25, 2014 10:38 PM
Communication is the key says the Gemini sun/merc...!Maybe not very helpful in the eyes of Cap/Aries, but none the less true. IP: Logged |
meissieri Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: The Netherlands Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 29, 2014 08:42 AM
Good discussion. I've known quite a few of them over the years and one of my current roommates is one (male). Honestly, I don't know what kind of thing I normally do around them or how to deal, so can't help you there, sorry. But I think they do need to vent, and I'm sorry they've seen you as the right person for it. At least they trust you? But as someone who is both Cap and Cancery herself, I think it helps to give them space. Ask them for things at first so they can say no, and keep things open for you both to change your mind if you need to. When they shut down/withdrew, I'd just leave them alone, often saying so as well (or commenting on it later). Figured they needed some downtime to process everything. But what I've noticed about them the most is that the sign their moon is in is so important in how exactly their Mars will play out. Dispositor and stuff. If the sign gels well with my chart, we get along swimmingly (lol, pun time!). But when not, well, it's really difficult. I feel like I try and try and any problems never really gets resolved. My favourite Mars in Cancers had a Capricorn, Cancer, Virgo or Pisces Moon. Especially the Virgo Moon is someone I still think of fondly. For synastry's sake: I'm a Leo whose chart is, aside from that, mainly Virgo, Capricorn Cancer with a dose of Libra and Pluto. IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1217 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 30, 2014 12:11 AM
^^^ I'm an aqua so I always give then spaces. The cancer mars I know are mostly sags and caps and one cancer with cap, pisces, cancer, virgo moon.The cancer moon is getting on my nerves. The pisces moon sag sun has been non-responsive so I just leave it as is. Honestly they all whine and whine and whine. I'm a cap mars with sun square pluto so people tend to sense that I'm strong and reliable. I appreciate that they trust me but I have my limits. The whining plus passive aggressiveness and avoidance of problems are just no-no for a Saturn-Uranus heavy person like me I appreciate your input though. At this point I'm pulling an aqua and move on why they figure themselves out IP: Logged |