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posted August 25, 2014 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The South Node in your chart is the sign who is influenced by you. Do you find people who have placements here come to you, admire your ways instinctually?

The North Node in your Chart is the Sign who you are influenced by. Do you find yourself drawn to these people, admiring the qualities they possess?

I have North Node & South Node

I often find myself in lots of situations with libra people where I am helping them out in some way, clearing up there viewpoint on something or just generally being followed and admired. And on the other end of it, I find myself in situations where when something is going wrong, I find someone with aries influence will often brighten my view or help me out.

This can be another interpretation of Nodes, with North being what should lead you and South being what you already hold. Hence, getting influence from North and influencing South.

How many people find this to be true with your North Node and South Node signs?

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posted August 25, 2014 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting Topic!

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posted August 25, 2014 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thing is I haven't known that many Virgos (where sun, Pluto and south node rests.) Some of them annoy me, some do not. I haven't really gotten into any tangles with Pisces suns (where north node rests.)
I tend to be lukewarm in the worlds of Virgos and Pisces and important in the lives of Leos (where Venus is) and Libras (my ascendant.)

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posted August 26, 2014 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rajji:
Interesting Topic!

Thanks Rajji, it was something I thought of which just clicked. What are your thoughts, anything similar?

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posted August 26, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Thing is I haven't known that many Virgos (where sun, Pluto and south node rests.) Some of them annoy me, some do not. I haven't really gotten into any tangles with Pisces suns (where north node rests.)
I tend to be lukewarm in the worlds of Virgos and Pisces and important in the lives of Leos (where Venus is) and Libras (my ascendant.)

Hi StarlightSmileSupreme,

It is possible you have not went through any major transits or progressions which trigger you meeting more Node related people or experiences.

Interesting you say the SN is sometimes annoying to you. South Node is what you have already done too much of, according to Jan Spiller( I have an old book). So I guess South Node is energy you know well or have mastered but is also worn out. You have Pluto and Sun in your Nodal mix too. So I guess it is an energy you must work through.

I know a few people with Sun conjunct North Node(or same sign), I find they have sort of confident way about them. They seem to be more sure (if not a little implusive) about everything they do. I find it is a good influence. So, I am wondering, how is Sun in the same sign as South Node for you? Do you feel any sort of inhibition with this in your drive? Are you shy ?

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posted August 26, 2014 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm well, Taurus' know to stay away bu Sags are a plenty (my sn in 9H)

Scorpios = NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO but Geminis are a plenty as well (nn in 3H).

I suppose I would chase the gems whereas Sags come my way but either way I get damn bored by the games.

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posted August 26, 2014 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Charlie other than your obvious dislike for scorpio, you feel a frustration with your Nodal axis? What kind of game playing have you had

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posted August 26, 2014 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lol Charlie other than your obvious dislike for scorpio, you feel a frustration with your Nodal axis? What kind of game playing have you had

My nodes are conjunct Uranus, Jupiter, IC and MC. And Chiron. I am very very torn. I used to be surrounded by Scorpio Moons and I adore them but now there are none.

I just find myself leaning heavier on my SN and Jupiter in 9H. I'm on some never ending quest to find love in Life as a whole and not with near and dear as my NN wants me to...

The things I do know I could teach in (a probable NN in 3H profession) but I am just thirsty for more knowledge and more "freedom" or what I consider freedom to be.

I just don't know what my calling is and it makes me torn in 5 different directions

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posted August 26, 2014 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have nn Pisces and sn Virgo. I also had Virgo rising but sn is in the 12th house. So I'm not sure, e nodes are in the opposite house of their sign so is confusing reading the interpretations of the nodes because it seems like house is as strong as the sign.

I am very attracted to Pisces and neptunian people and themes. I like anything that has an aspect of fantasy to it. I think I am a very control freak type person. I try to go with the flow but eventually I'm like no, stop I need to take control of the situation.

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posted August 26, 2014 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by violet7887:
Hi StarlightSmileSupreme,

It is possible you have not went through any major transits or progressions which trigger you meeting more Node related people or experiences.

Interesting you say the SN is sometimes annoying to you. South Node is what you have already done too much of, according to Jan Spiller( I have an old book). So I guess South Node is energy you know well or have mastered but is also worn out. You have Pluto and Sun in your Nodal mix too. So I guess it is an energy you must work through.

I know a few people with Sun conjunct North Node(or same sign), I find they have sort of confident way about them. They seem to be more sure (if not a little implusive) about everything they do. I find it is a good influence. So, I am wondering, how is Sun in the same sign as South Node for you? Do you feel any sort of inhibition with this in your drive? Are you shy ?


Hello Violet,

Maybe it's due to their houses not being social ones? The south node is in twelfth conjunct Pluto, the north in sixth. I like twelfth and sixth house matters - working on my own, being reflective.

The sun isn't close enough to the south node to conjunct it. It does conjunct the cusp of house twelve.

I do feel at odds at times, true, since the sun is in sign of the south node. I feel tripped up by my own Virgo energy at times and fine tuning of details is often lacking or maybe it's just my confidence and I am not as bad as I think?

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posted August 26, 2014 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
My nodes are conjunct Uranus, Jupiter, IC and MC. And Chiron. I am very very torn. I used to be surrounded by Scorpio Moons and I adore them but now there are none.

I just find myself leaning heavier on my SN and Jupiter in 9H. I'm on some never ending quest to find love in Life as a whole and not with near and dear as my NN wants me to...

The things I do know I could teach in (a probable NN in 3H profession) but I am just thirsty for more knowledge and more "freedom" or what I consider freedom to be.

I just don't know what my calling is and it makes me torn in 5 different directions


Charlie, one thing I know about Nodes is, it happens naturally. I do not think these are experiences you can make happen. I was asking in my original posts about people who have had the occurrences. It's also not for certain that everyone is to go through them.

So there is no need to feel that you are not going your nodal path. We can only go along with what's happening in front of us and see right? That is life.

If you do have Jupiter and Uranus conjunct South Node then those energies are of course blended in your South Node energy. You may emphasise the shadow side of these planets energies at times. With Jupiter it maybe something like you need to build more trust in certain areas in your life or people. With Uranus, not to put as much emphasis on your individuality.

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posted August 27, 2014 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Hello Violet,

Maybe it's due to their houses not being social ones? The south node is in twelfth conjunct Pluto, the north in sixth. I like twelfth and sixth house matters - working on my own, being reflective.

The sun isn't close enough to the south node to conjunct it. It does conjunct the cusp of house twelve.

I do feel at odds at times, true, since the sun is in sign of the south node. I feel tripped up by my own Virgo energy at times and fine tuning of details is often lacking or maybe it's just my confidence and I am not as bad as I think?


I also have house 6/12 nodes. I believe it implies being more productive with day to day activities. If it is not something you feel you lack then maybe its not of concern.I think when you are ready to move productively in the area of your north node you will. Thank you for inputting Starlight.

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posted August 27, 2014 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I have nn Pisces and sn Virgo. I also had Virgo rising but sn is in the 12th house. So I'm not sure, e nodes are in the opposite house of their sign so is confusing reading the interpretations of the nodes because it seems like house is as strong as the sign.

I am very attracted to Pisces and neptunian people and themes. I like anything that has an aspect of fantasy to it. I think I am a very control freak type person. I try to go with the flow but eventually I'm like no, stop I need to take control of the situation.


I have read that with the nodal axis we go through jumping from one side to the other. Sometimes over and over. Nodes being in opposite houses means you are still swinging similar energies.

So, you feel your North Node sign has a good impact on you? If you feel the influence is good, wing it with that .

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posted August 27, 2014 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooh, that's pretty interesting.
Seems to make sense to me, but then again, my SN/NN axis conjuncts my AC/DC axis, so it's hard to tell, because we naturally attract our AC energy and are attracted to our DC energy (as a general rule).

Anyway, SN in Gemini here and the most common sign in my life ever is Gemini. Almost everyone I am friends with has some kind of Gemini thing going on.
It's attractive yet annoying. The kinda thing where you like them but also want to slap them at times, lol.

I don't know that I "influence" them... but it feels like I have more power with people with Gemini placements and less power with people with Sag placements. Sag placements tend to intimidate me and make me feel out of my comfort zone; I feel awkward easily around people with Sag energy. With Gemini it's much more comfortable and easy-going, but perhaps a bit too complacent and a tad annoying (could be my Virgo Moon clashing though, or my AC "competing" with 'em).

Anyway, this needs more investigation.

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posted August 27, 2014 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Ooh, that's pretty interesting.
Seems to make sense to me, but then again, my SN/NN axis conjuncts my AC/DC axis, so it's hard to tell, because we naturally attract our AC energy and are attracted to our DC energy (as a general rule).

Anyway, SN in Gemini here and the most common sign in my life ever is Gemini. Almost everyone I am friends with has some kind of Gemini thing going on.
It's attractive yet annoying. The kinda thing where you like them but also want to slap them at times, lol.

I don't know that I "influence" them... but it feels like I have more power with people with Gemini placements and less power with people with Sag placements. Sag placements tend to intimidate me and make me feel out of my comfort zone; I feel awkward easily around people with Sag energy. With Gemini it's much more comfortable and easy-going, but perhaps a bit too complacent and a tad annoying (could be my Virgo Moon clashing though, or my AC "competing" with 'em).

Anyway, this needs more investigation.


Hi Doux Reve,

"the kind of thing where you like them and also want to slap them." lol I get that. Sometimes, it feels this way because the energy is too familiar. Having your Nodes on your AC/DSC axis makes it all the more significant for you. I have this also.

Yes, according to traditional NN interpretations, it is the area which is the opposite of your comfort zone (SN). One thing I am still looking into is the difference in peoples reactions to North Node. I am guessing it plays into the rest of the individuals chart and aspects to Nodes. Do you have North Node in the same sign as ASC or DSC?

The other thing is, from my understanding of it, North node is an energy which is gradually worked into. Which is also where the comfort level with the nodal axis changes with time. The more Nodal experiences a person has, the more easy it is to accept how these energies/people relate to you. The more you have worked through them, the more you can actually see how they are manifesting.


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posted August 27, 2014 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*nods* I agree with everything you said.

I wonder about people who have NN conjunct the Sun or Moon, or the ASC (or any other personal planet actually) - surely it's easier for them to "tune into" that energy?

My DSC conjuncts my NN closely, they're both in Sag.
My Mars in late Scorpio conjuncts both of them but it's an out of sign conjunction and I definitely haven't mastered that energy yet.

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posted August 27, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
*nods* I agree with everything you said.

I wonder about people who have NN conjunct the Sun or Moon, or the ASC (or any other personal planet actually) - surely it's easier for them to "tune into" that energy?

My DSC conjuncts my NN closely, they're both in Sag.
My Mars in late Scorpio conjuncts both of them but it's an out of sign conjunction and I definitely haven't mastered that energy yet.


I have DSC in same sign as NN too, although not conjunct. I also have Jupiter there. Which is prob why this energy is usually of good influence to me. With the DSC/North Node, I wonder if this can point to something in the lines of the partner having a good influence on a person too. Do you have an inspirational partner by any chance? If not, here's to hoping for a inspirational lover for you.

Yes, I mentioned this somewhere up there with North Node. I've noticed it adds confidence with conjuncts( especially to Sun) as they inherently possess more of that energy already.

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posted August 27, 2014 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does NN in the 7H (I presume?) manifest for you?

Hah! Thanks for the hoping! No partner here, I have relationship issues, both in terms of friendship and in terms of romance. My Moon and Chiron square my ASC/DSC and SN/NN axis. Yippee.

But I imagine a potential future partner to be inspirational, indeed. I loooove it when people can inspire me. Usually they have a prominent Jupiter and/or Sag energy. So, makes sense. But I usually "need" Virgo energy as well (my Moon + 5H) so it's quite frustrating because they're square.

Yeah, you're quite right about Sun/NN.
How about Sun/SN? I think they're confident too, or seem to be.

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posted August 27, 2014 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I have the same thing, Moon exactly square my Nodes, to the degree. I think this points to family things more than relationships/partnerships. My DSC is late aries so my NN is actually in house 6.

Yours is house 7 I suppose? Yeah, H7 NN-DSC in Sagittarius, you will most definitely be inspired! I feel the same way, an inspirational partner would be lovely. But then again who doesn't want a partner who brings an abundance of joy into there lives? Here's hoping for the both of us. (fingers crossed).

The thing is, I have no actual examples of Sun- South Node. This is why I was bringing it up earlier in the thread. I was wondering if it would be the opposite of Sun-North Node, maybe a shyer person. Do you know any people?

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posted August 27, 2014 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi violet, haven't seen you around for a long while...maybe we just haven't crossed paths. Good to see you again though

My Cap sun is trine my Taurus SN, my Pisces moon is trine my Scorpio NN. Also my moon is in the 8H.

So I think that skews things; however, I do feel like I have a head start relating to people whose sun or moon is conjunct my SN, almost like we have an inside view of each other and a bit of trust going both ways, consequently.

While I've had Scorpio acquaintances throughout my life, there is something like a breakover point we usually don't cross. They seem to keep everything graceful and soothing for a long time before going into the messier stuff about themselves. If I ever get a glimpse of that, I feel like they distance themselves from me again. I've really only delved into more complex emotional issues with my Scorpio brother whose sun is tightly conjunct my NN. Even then, I think that is facilitated by other synastry aspects we have (his Ceres conjunct my sun, his moon conjunct my Mercury, and more.)

So yeah...that's my feedback.

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Yes, I think that's about true for me. At least for drawing in and being drawn to. I easily get along with other Leo placements, especially being one myself - I know how important it is to be positive and appreciate the good in life (and others).

So here's that Sun on the SN example you were looking for. Uh, I feel it's more of a limit. At first, when I was younger, not to get too carried away with my own ideas and to really try to work with others, putting away a share of my own wants. Then now, it's more just like feeling I'm never truly able to express myself the way I'd like to. I've read the SN feels like a Saturn conjunction and another book (forgot the name, sorry!) talks about how the Leo being "stifled" to some extend... and yeah, reading that, it was as if something clicked that I'd been confused about for a very long time. I assume it'd be different for Sun-SN. Mine is in the 11th house and yes, it happens in groups, with friends and wherever I'm looking to fit in the most. Sadly ;__;

Now, as for my Aquarius NN: Easy, learning to somehow find a way to take a step back from my emotions, be more objective instead of doing everything from the heart. Being friendly towards everyone, not just the people I like. Finding people I have things in common with seems to take away most of the hurt from my SN problems.

Aquarius people, haha, well, it's funny. I'm sure it'll surprise others here who know me...
At first, I hated Aqua placements with the passion of a thousand suns (lol, pun again!), having had so many bad experiences with them... and deep down especially for how everyone seemed to get their positive qualities except for me. (My "skipped step" signs are Scorpio and Taurus, y'know. Jealousy is an issue, as much as I hate to admit it. As in that I just had to know what I didn't have that made everyone else so well-liked by these guys.) Never said anything about it on LL or even anywhere else (only the odd wishing their rationality wouldn't drive me so nuts), because duh, there's plenty of people here with planets in Aquarius, didn't want to offend them... and hoped it'd leave the door open to being proven wrong about them. And I have been!
They do inspire me, yes. Intimidate me, too, how easily they just click with just about anyone, keep objective even in fights and such.

Ruler Uranus (and traditional ruler Saturn) are in my 3rd house and Gemini's been another sore spot for me. Super drawn to them, wishing to be able to have that kind of knowledge and quick wit. But uh... they make me feel dumb sometimes. Meh, could be Saturn in H3 talking again. Especially the ones who like to tease me about some stuff I didn't know or when I'm not able to snap anything right back to them in a banter. So... similar feelings like with Aquarius. Almost like some longing, thinking I'll never be good enough to keep them en But yeah... I'd love some quicker thinking and just spreading myself out more without getting overwhelmed with stress & pressure to live up to all of that.

But to end it on a positive note, I've found out I have a loose trine from Jupiter to my NN! Cool. Only found out because another report showed it. And yes, while I haven't exactly had much luck in finding my goal, I do love and look up to Sagittarius people, who like me a lot. There's always been a few Saggies sticking around me or else foreigners or people not living around the corner. Or a combo of the above. I like their humour, bluntness and just love of experience and sharing it.

Ughh I typed out a novel, sorry! Got too excited while going on... haha, like a Sag.

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I'm trying to build my friend base up based on my North Node, I would like to meet more Pisces people. I do admire Pisces and Neptune people, but only those who are not BS, true caring, creative, and positive Pisces people.

I still admire Virgos though, as I see a lot of their traits in myself. I have a hard time leaving my Virgo traits behind though -- so I'm a mix of both my North and South nodes. I tend to become more like a Virgo when I get really upset, I guess it's my "crutch".

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Hi Faith,yes, its been a long while since I¡¦ve been here but I felt like posting recently. It is good to see you too Faith

Moon trine North Node, sounds smooth. And the fact that it falls in the same house energy sounds smooth too. It is clear that NN in your chart is an important energy in your emotional /internal growth. Not just that but it is also easy for you to grow through acceptance. Emotional nurturing or mothering is maybe also an important part of your North Node path.

I have 2 family members who have NN in the same sign as my Sun. Actually the significance is they both have the exact same degree Nodal axis and both their NN¡¦s are conjunct my vertex(my dad and sister). Lol I guess this really shows families have karmic ties. Anyway, NN-Sun is learning experiences for the NN person. So in one way or another I¡¦m sure your relationship with your brother holds huge potential to help you grow. Thank you for sharing your experiences too Faith.

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posted August 30, 2014 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meissieri,
It is fantastic that you are so open and expressive. Thank you for sharing your Sun-SN thoughts with me. It makes much sense, especially about putting your thoughts away or feeling limited. I have to give it to you though meissieri, you have your NN area understood exactly like how you should have it understood. A lot of people actually don’t even see their NN area because it’s harder to realize what you require from what you are internally holding back. I know of someone with your nodal axis and what you have written is almost exactly the things I find they need to do too.

I am actually thinking now that people who have ASC,Sun,Moon conjuncts to South Node can grasp what they are holding back really well. They may go through the annoyance of what is limiting them more often and from this come to a better understanding of their North Node . Major SN aspects maybe something like a fast-track learning experience.You have explained your NN area so beautifully. And this Gemini sun certainly thinks your wit is just where it needs to be. You are on the right track. What degree is your NN in Aqua?

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