posted August 26, 2014 02:09 PM            

But, don't consider yourself helpless to this "inheritance", of course. With that Aries Moon opposite Pluto, you're a very powerful person and you appear to want to exercise the insight in order to transform yourself. As far as what emotional "stuff" is yours or your mother's... I can attest that this line is very blurry and hard to define. I actually think that's the case for everyone's Moon. It's hard to tell where our maternal figure ends and we begin, sometimes, when it comes to our Moon energy.

Just keep practicing self-awareness, keep being introspective, and know that you're not limited by your past. Also know that there's nothing wrong with your emotional intensity and passion; it only enriches your experience of life. So, don't run from it.

If you head to my blog, there's a post on Moon-Pluto aspects, in the June section, that might be helpful for you.

posted August 26, 2014 05:26 PM            

He infuses people with raw power that many fear and thus want to conquer or destroy. Our mothers as well.

posted August 26, 2014 05:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Mango:
No offence but you need to be a bit realistic here. Your mother isn't superwoman. She cannot provide absolutely everything. If you know you are loved and cared for this should be enough. When she's being a mother to you she's still coping with aspects of her own life. I had serious mother issues and I have Pluto trine moon.
She also seems to have had a good relationship with her mother with Jupiter and Venus in 10th.

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My mother is also a Hades Mooner. Scorpio Moon 8H sq Leo Pluto 2H. One of the most horrible humans I know. She had it all: a well mannered daughter she fed nothing but contempt and backhanded sarcasm to make said daughter submissive. She gave away her son to her abusive ex husband. She quit her well paying job at a law firm and boozed away her years. 15 years later she finally found enough guts to tell me that she never wanted me and everything was my fault.

I suppose my Hades Moon should just have stood there, taken that sh*t since Dear Mommy must surely have loved me? No, I told her I would kill her if she didn't shut up. Then she started crying and playing the whole poor me-Scorpio-vindictive schpeal.

posted August 26, 2014 08:19 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
If you head to my blog, there's a post on Moon-Pluto aspects, in the June section, that might be helpful for you.

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Like your blog freespirit.
You explain Moon/Pluto, very well. Conjunct here.
As far my relationship with my Mother, complicated. I love her dearly, parents are mortal just like we are. I deem the tough stuff as my education.

posted August 26, 2014 09:54 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Trust that Pluto will always be projected upon and made a scapegoat for all the issues and fears of others. Thing is, when Pluto is done he WILL transform one way or another and just leave permanently.

He infuses people with raw power that many fear and thus want to conquer or destroy. Our mothers as well.

Stay strong and just walk your own way!

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posted August 27, 2014 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by 7Grace:
Like your blog freespirit.
You explain Moon/Pluto, very well. Conjunct here.
As far my relationship with my Mother, complicated. I love her dearly, parents are mortal just like we are. I deem the tough stuff as my education.

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Thank you! What sign is the conjunction in? And yes, I definitely agree with this as I get older.

posted August 28, 2014 06:52 AM            

I'm curious as what part Pluto In Capricorn which is in my 6th house , the capricorn side. Mars Neptune are in 6th house, but in the Sag part. But Caps ruler Saturn is in my 4th house, which is the emotional foundation etc. So I wonder whats bringin this on now?

the89freespirit... WOW did your blog about Pluto Moon ever hit home. Right on the bulls eye of issues I have had my whole entire life.

The interesting thing is in the article it mentions to deal with the very power and the source of the emotions. But with Pluto, many of these emotions feel almost primal. Primal emotions, such as fear, are associated with ancient parts of the brain and presumably evolved among our premammal ancestors. Filial emotions, such as a human mother's love for her offspring, seem to have evolved among early mammals. Social emotions, such as guilt and pride, evolved among social primates.

But it feels so strong. I also read : Memories, emotions and impressions stored in the Plutonian region of our psyche tend to arouse primal fear within us: thus we’re afraid to approach this area during normal daily life. Amen!

My mother completely rejected this part of myself. So our relationship became conditional, dont show or express the things that make Mother feel uncomfortable, or you will be called names, rejected. But the issue is that I, me, Not my mother now has handled it the exact same way she did. Doh!

It's the doorway through which volatile compressed pockets of self, spirit and primal energy lies hidden, which are released either by our own efforts or by provocation from the outside world.

I see this daily... something will trigger an intense primal fearful reaction, and I usually project onto something external because that has been a way to "control" it, handle it, have a reason for it. Just flee whatever you project as being cause for this large primal reaction, even though I have known for years, nah uh, that aint the cause. These are reminders for whats in my shadows.

This primal raw energy pluto reps, the primal fear from ancient parts in our brain... I wonder is this the lower octave of it, and the higher of this energy is allowed to be transformed, to exist, if it refines in a sense and becomes a sort of a new intuition.

Im reading this book called The Language of Emotions, and how fear is actually intuition instincts,clarity, attentiveness, readiness... You dont have to be afraid to feel fear, just like this "knowing" if you are driving and see a car spinning out of control, intuition will tell you to get outta the way, car is coming, etc and you operate on that. But I wonder with primal fear, ancient fear, what that would transform 2?

Of course if one is willing to face it, allow it, maybe not even need a reason for it, its there. Not to "mother" it the way you were taught, by rejecting it, being afraid of it. Fearing just the intensity of this raw primal energy that confused the heck outta ya sometime.

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Pluto's energy will not be suppressed but its power is often feared. This can put you in a showdown between your greatest fears of being destroyed, and the pursuit of the deepest longing in your heart.

It almost feels as if I leave this inner home built around this raw primal energy, that lingers in the basement locked away in that home... IT WILL DESTROY ME. Walking around, with this raw primal energy always afraid, angry, scared... Oy vei!

I read : The karmic purpose behind it is to propel the person with the Hades Moon into a place where he or she can let go of the need for external mothering and learn to mother the individual self.

I can see how I have always looked around especially for women, female healers, psychics, therapists etc... Where I will feel them out to see hmm will they be able to help with all this fear, etc. Hasn't happened.

I will learn. I will get there. I will accept my emotions. The deepest darkest ones.

posted August 28, 2014 10:46 AM            

Others can do it with someone they trust or a SO. And the more introspective people can usually dive in and learn about their own emotional nature themselves along with learning to understand how to not let their emotions control them. Feel the emotions deeply, but respond instead of react.

But it takes baby steps. It's like someone having an intense fear of public speaking being told that they'll only get past it by speaking at a football game or even at their church. The number of people don't make the difference because the psychological self believes that any public speaking will kill the person.

[Edit: moved to my computer so I can type faster instead of on my iPad]

To answer how to 'let' Pluto do it's job. Pluto is the transformer but Pluto is us. Everything is connected. As long as we view Pluto as an external power or an aspect of God that will somehow correct us or transform us whether we like to or not, we continue to experience the power and powerlessness of Pluto energy in all it's aspects. Pluto doesn't say I'm going to transform you. It requests that we take Pluto power and transformation unto ourselves - to accept responsibility for our own power, for our own emotions and for the creative and destructive force that is Pluto.

To have the power of powerful emotional responses, to be able to consciously use that power in all creative pursuits... what a powerhouse one could be - one can use the artist Pink as an example.