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NeptunianSag
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posted August 26, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If your feeling blue or having a breakdown do you think scorpios come to the rescue or show no sympathy/doesn't trust that person because they may suspect manipulation. But then again, I think scorpios are good at knowing if the person is being genuine or not. What do you think?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 26, 2014 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am with a Scorpio Moon guy and he is excellent.Really digs deep.

Never takes anything on surface value and wants to have conversations with me on a one-on-one basis with lots of eye contact. I can't hide NOTHING.

So if I cheat, I am in trouble.

He says I do the same with him- don't let him sleep with feelings hidden.I "gorge" them out.Lol

But I have met other Scorpio Moons who are not quite like him. They seem more intent to breaking people down and using their weaknesses against them in a cruel manner.

Every position has positive and negative examples I guess.

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posted August 26, 2014 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know, it depends what side of them you're on. With me, my best friend is a Scorpio. I've mentioned her a bunch of times but for sake of discussion she has: Scorpio ASC, Scorpio Sun, Mercury in Scorpio, and Venus in Scorpio.. (Moon is in Capricorn, Mars is in Libra.) and all those Scorpio placements? Conjunct Pluto. Damn, I wish I had that! In any case...

With me, she's emotionally supportive. I've known her 8 years and we've had two fights which consisted of us not talking for a couple months. All it takes is me reaching out and we eventually fall right back into place. She's even gotten to the point now where you can give her constructive criticism and instead of getting hurt feelings she says "I'll try and work on it." If you present your case well. Every time I tell her a problem I'm having I rarely need to explain my logic because not only will she back me up, but she agrees with me anyway. We think the same. Also she gets more visibly angry at anyone / any situation that's really hurt me than I do. So to me she's emotionally supportive.

Her boyfriend on the other hand... well, he's an Aquarius sun, Cancer moon, Mercury in Aquarius, Venus in Pisces and Mars in Sagittarius. They argue quite often whether it be over other women, or his issues. He has severe anxiety and won't drive by himself, and still lives at home with his mother (at 27.) She's basically been with him for 5 years. Lately he has regressed into lots of childish behavior and expressed feelings of depression and such because of his anxiety. Well to her, this is nothing new, and she's not as supportive because she's tried helping him from doing routine exercises driving, arguing with him, trying to give him incentive, doing research on how to solve his anxiety, pushing him to see a professional, etc. But it's been 5 years. She's sick of it because she wants him to get better more than he does, so when he starts whining she tends to criticize him and put him in his place and not be as sympathetic, if at all.

That was long winded, but the second example shows Scorpios can be both emotionally supportive and cold. They're all about proof I think and if you can support your actions with reason and evidence they are more liable to sympathize...

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posted August 26, 2014 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I am with a Scorpio Moon guy and he is excellent.Really digs deep.

Never takes anything on surface value and wants to have conversations with me on a one-on-one basis with lots of eye contact. I can't hide NOTHING.


I have a Scorpio Moon and I agree with this 100%! I never accept anything at face value unless someone manages to convince me it's "that simple." For me though, it comes from a place of emotional support because to dig and to probe like I do is only to have all of the facts so I give the best possible advice. I genuinely care and want to hear your woes. Plus it feels so much more therapeutic to just "get it all out there."

Only when I feel emotionally threatened or "backed into a corner" so to speak do I use someone's weaknesses against them, but that isn't very often. At my worst I've been told I can "hit where it hurts." I keep my own emotions in check...most of the time.

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posted August 26, 2014 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I don't know, it depends what side of them you're on. With me, my best friend is a Scorpio. I've mentioned her a bunch of times but for sake of discussion she has: Scorpio ASC, Scorpio Sun, Mercury in Scorpio, and Venus in Scorpio.. (Moon is in Capricorn, Mars is in Libra.) and all those Scorpio placements? Conjunct Pluto. Damn, I wish I had that! In any case...

With me, she's emotionally supportive. I've known her 8 years and we've had two fights which consisted of us not talking for a couple months. All it takes is me reaching out and we eventually fall right back into place. She's even gotten to the point now where you can give her constructive criticism and instead of getting hurt feelings she says "I'll try and work on it." If you present your case well. Every time I tell her a problem I'm having I rarely need to explain my logic because not only will she back me up, but she agrees with me anyway. We think the same. Also she gets more visibly angry at anyone / any situation that's really hurt me than I do. So to me she's emotionally supportive.

Her boyfriend on the other hand... well, he's an Aquarius sun, Cancer moon, Mercury in Aquarius, Venus in Pisces and Mars in Sagittarius. They argue quite often whether it be over other women, or his issues. He has severe anxiety and won't drive by himself, and still lives at home with his mother (at 27.) She's basically been with him for 5 years. Lately he has regressed into lots of childish behavior and expressed feelings of depression and such because of his anxiety. Well to her, this is nothing new, and she's not as supportive because she's tried helping him from doing routine exercises driving, arguing with him, trying to give him incentive, doing research on how to solve his anxiety, pushing him to see a professional, etc. But it's been 5 years. She's sick of it because she wants him to get better more than he does, so when he starts whining she tends to criticize him and put him in his place and not be as sympathetic, if at all.

That was long winded, but the second example shows Scorpios can be both emotionally supportive and cold. They're all about proof I think and if you can support your actions with reason and evidence they are more liable to sympathize...


To be honest, Scorpio-influenced or not, the situation with your best friend and her boyfriend would stress just about anybody out. The important thing is she remained as supportive as she could for as long as she could but everyone has a breaking point. I'm surprised she has let it carry on as long as it has if it's really that bad. Does she have any Venus/Saturn aspects in her natal?

I've been in a similar situation and I too reached a breaking point. I believe my Venus trine Saturn makes me TOO loyal to a lost cause (but I disgress...).

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posted August 26, 2014 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by margym0o:
To be honest, Scorpio-influenced or not, the situation with your best friend and her boyfriend would stress just about anybody out. The important thing is she remained as supportive as she could for as long as she could but everyone has a breaking point. I'm surprised she has let it carry on as long as it has if it's really that bad. Does she have any Venus/Saturn aspects in her natal?

I've been in a similar situation and I too reached a breaking point. I believe my Venus trine Saturn makes me TOO loyal to a lost cause (but I disgress...).


I agree, but I was giving examples of both sides of behavior. To be honest anyone has the ability to be emotionally supportive or cold but she asked about Scorpios.

Her Venus is inconjunct Saturn in Sagittarius I believe, but that's it. She has Sun and Mercury semi-square Saturn though. And she has a self-admitted problem ending things. I think she's scarred from all of her friendships in her early years ending against her will so now she doesn't let anyone go if she doesn't have to, even if they're not right or good for her.

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posted August 26, 2014 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 26, 2014 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Overall, supportive. They LISTEN. They give good advice. They are strong.

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posted August 27, 2014 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I don't know, it depends what side of them you're on. With me, my best friend is a Scorpio. I've mentioned her a bunch of times but for sake of discussion she has: Scorpio ASC, Scorpio Sun, Mercury in Scorpio, and Venus in Scorpio.. (Moon is in Capricorn, Mars is in Libra.) and all those Scorpio placements? Conjunct Pluto. Damn, I wish I had that! In any case...

With me, she's emotionally supportive. I've known her 8 years and we've had two fights which consisted of us not talking for a couple months. All it takes is me reaching out and we eventually fall right back into place. She's even gotten to the point now where you can give her constructive criticism and instead of getting hurt feelings she says "I'll try and work on it." If you present your case well. Every time I tell her a problem I'm having I rarely need to explain my logic because not only will she back me up, but she agrees with me anyway. We think the same. Also she gets more visibly angry at anyone / any situation that's really hurt me than I do. So to me she's emotionally supportive.

Her boyfriend on the other hand... well, he's an Aquarius sun, Cancer moon, Mercury in Aquarius, Venus in Pisces and Mars in Sagittarius. They argue quite often whether it be over other women, or his issues. He has severe anxiety and won't drive by himself, and still lives at home with his mother (at 27.) She's basically been with him for 5 years. Lately he has regressed into lots of childish behavior and expressed feelings of depression and such because of his anxiety. Well to her, this is nothing new, and she's not as supportive because she's tried helping him from doing routine exercises driving, arguing with him, trying to give him incentive, doing research on how to solve his anxiety, pushing him to see a professional, etc. But it's been 5 years. She's sick of it because she wants him to get better more than he does, so when he starts whining she tends to criticize him and put him in his place and not be as sympathetic, if at all.

That was long winded, but the second example shows Scorpios can be both emotionally supportive and cold. They're all about proof I think and if you can support your actions with reason and evidence they are more liable to sympathize...



Wow, I think these two are bringing out the worst in each other. Its best that they remember why they were attracted to each other in the 1st place and build on that.

The Scorpio should avoid wanting the Cancer to to what they want them to do.

The Cancer should find another avenue to offload their emotional baggage. Not their mate.

This is the advice that I give people when they start off in a Moon in Water-Moon in water relationship:

1.Always start with a good supportive base of friends and close family members BEFORE taking on the challenge of this relationship.

You both will have many emotional issues that will come to the surface as you have the uncanny ability of sourcing each others deepest insecurities out i.e anxiety, depression,feelings of "loss", family issues etc.

So when you have people outside the relationship to "offload" to,you can only be loving,sweet and kind with each other. Not drowning in each others emotional streams.

I know a lot of people will say "but emotional support builds a relationship" and I agree.But with two water Moons,they never know when to stop.

And both can goad each other on until the river becomes a full and fierce ocean that they both drown in. Then resent each other for bringing those deep parts out.

2.Differentiate between your own needs and those of your partner. Separate them if you must by being very independent outside the relationship.

This means having an active life outside the relationship that doesn't include your partner.

Its all too easy to fall into habits with another water Moon and make each other your whole "world". Because you have found someone who understands and complements you completely, it can be difficult to take other people outside the relationship seriously.

Problem with making each other your whole world is that, what happens when your "world" collapses? Who will you go to?

A small fight between these two can escalate to an all out WAR because they are both so heavily invested in each other. They may lack humor in it and things can seem very absolute; you either LOVE me or you get the heel out of my life etc.

Too many break-ups happen between the two with feelings still very strong for each; whether "hate" or "love".

3.Make love often, make love often, make love often.Moon in water relationships tend to need a lot more emotional intimacy and flesh-flesh physical contact than others.
So touch and caress each other a lot.

This wont be possible if you are always playing "psychologist" with each other. Reserve this part of your nature of being the patient with problems for people outside.

Bring the loving inside and nurture each other like the way that you would desire being nurtured.

When things progress on this front, this relationship becomes the stuff of dreams. Like you two are in some romantic novel that doesn't have a tragic end.

My Scorpio moon used to get jealous of my friends. He would say that I share stuff with them that I don't share with him.

I told him that I do share stuff with him but not everything.It would kill the attraction and overwhelm him. As I do get very winy. So I reserve the most loving,secure,gentle part of me for US.

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posted August 28, 2014 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azurenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio Sun and venus here...when I love someone I'm there eternally through thick and thin. When I have lost respect for someone or didn't have it to begin with I'm cold-hearted and could give a rats ass about that person.

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posted August 28, 2014 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries23Degrees - all of that is such good advice! I've seen them together for so long that I can't see either of them with anyone else. However she's a Scorpio SUN and he's an Aquarius SUN. It's just that he has the Cancer Moon and her the Capricorn Moon (but Mercury, Venus, ASC, in Scorpio.) Still though, I think the advice could apply to them as well as everyone in a relationship. Seeing as how I feel I'm preparing to be in a real one here pretty soon these are tips I'll definitely remember. When do you suggest using the above advice? When you're in the middle of a relationship, or the beginning, or when? When is there a right time?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 28, 2014 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I usually do this at the START of the relationship.But it's not too late to just pick it up during the middle.

Sorry,I was thinking of water-water Moons when writing this.But,upon reflection,I think it could apply to any Moon sign that the water Moon gets involved with.

Thing is with Water Moon sign,emotions tend to rule everything.No matter how subtle they may be at 1st,they gain momentum as the relations continue and if there is no viable avenue to let them out-besides the relationship.They start to overwhelm the partner.

Interestingly, I have found Moon in Cancer and Moon in Capricorn to be the most sensitive to each other. And not always in a good way.

Cancer Moon can accuse Capricorn of being cold and indifferent to them and thereby can be the instigator of public emotional displays-trying to get the Capricorn Moon to "care".

Capricorn moon-on the the hand- gets more and more sullen with Cancers "outbursts". They hate any type of childish displays and will often feel that Cancer is manipulating them a lot.

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