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Dreaminess
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posted August 26, 2014 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Maybe black moon Lilith? I read somewhere that represents your "mistress" side or something like that.... Not sure about it though, hard to find info on Lilith but im super curious about it.

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Maybe black moon Lilith? I read somewhere that represents your "mistress" side or something like that.... Not sure about it though, hard to find info on Lilith but im super curious about it.

This might be it. Do you think maybe hard neptune aspects can point to this to? I have my mars and sun square neptune, and neptune also opposites my moon.I also have my venus square pluto. Maybe it might come from this that i attract these sort of men/situations?

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posted August 26, 2014 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7Grace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
This might be it. I think i have my lilith opposites my acsendant if i remember correctly. Do you think maybe hard neptune aspects can point to this to? I have my mars and sun square neptune, and neptune also opposites my moon.I also have my venus square pluto. Maybe it might come from this that i attract these sort of men/situations?


I read, Venus square Pluto creates love triangles: http://sasstrology.com/2011/06/venus-square-pluto-third-parties.html

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posted August 26, 2014 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I seem to attract men that do this too. I wonder what it is..

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posted August 26, 2014 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7Grace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anything in the 12th house?

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posted August 26, 2014 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarriorPrincess7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Same here. I think neptune definitely plays a part as well as a pluto/venus in the chart and bml.

What sign and house is your venus in?

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posted August 26, 2014 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this also about the Scorpio Venus person?

I know others have mentioned this.. but it might be a good idea to create a thread with your synastry and ask about your relationship more specifically.
But it's up to you!

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Originally posted by Odette:
Is this also about the Scorpio Venus person?

I know others have mentioned this.. but it might be a good idea to create a thread with your synastry and ask about your relationship more specifically.
But it's up to you!


No. This happens to me everytime a man feels something for me whether i like him back or not i am always some kind of a "secret" crush in some man`s mind/heart.I attract elusive situations.

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posted August 27, 2014 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune aspecting the personal planets Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars

I'll even include Neptune in 5th,7th or 8th

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Originally posted by 7Grace:
Anything in the 12th house?

I have my moon there

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Originally posted by WarriorPrincess7:
Same here. I think neptune definitely plays a part as well as a pluto/venus in the chart and bml.

What sign and house is your venus in?


its in the 2nd house and i have a leo venus.

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posted August 27, 2014 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Traditionally, you always look at H12 for this. If you can, post your synastry and composite, let's take a look at what's happening in H12.

BML can be a mistress signifier in that it can represent an area in which one is competitive with other women, but in general, it's an energy too proud to allow itself to be a secret for too long.

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posted August 27, 2014 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, if it's secret, how do you know about it? Seems somewhat contradictory. And what would be the opposite of a "secret crush" - a "public" crush? Aren't most crushes more or less private? Sorry If I got you wrong, just trying to understand...

Body language, i can just see it in their eyes and behaviours, and the way they hint at it sometimes. I am never the girl in the forefront they actually go for and try to have a "public" relationship with. I am always the one they keep in their heads, the ghost they have a secret crush on, the one they are in love with from afar, i am the crush they never tell anyone about. Its like i feel they see me as "taboo" in a way and feels the need to keep me hidden. I attract elusive weird situations to me.

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posted August 27, 2014 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see what you mean, Dreaminess.

I've had that happen to me several times (age probably helps - young people drama).

Mostly I've had secret crushes and I was also a secret crush several times (I know because 1. It was obvious after a while, to a careful observer, and 2. Some of them actually confessed their feelings/interest).

I don't have Venus/Pluto nor Venus/Neptune.
Perhaps it's transiting Neptune in square to my natal placements.

Or my natal Moon/Pluto square; or Venus trine Saturn and Moon opposite Saturn - I used to give off a very "cold," unapproachable vibe, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't easy to get close to me. Actually that's probably still true today. lol

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Umm… in that case, sure you're not projecting? Why would the guys you suspect to like you so much rather go for someone else when they're secretly after you? That would be a tad strange, no?

Yes it is strange, and this is what i mean by attracting "weird elusive" situasions.

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posted August 27, 2014 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Umm… in that case, sure you're not projecting? Why would the guys you suspect to like you so much rather go for someone else when they're secretly after you? That would be a tad strange, no?

Yes, consider this. "Secret crush", if someone is already in a committed relationship, means you're only the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. choice. The takeaways should be 1)maybe they don't like you that much, and 2)you deserve better. If someone is not acknowledging you publicly, it's a sign they don't have respect for you. Maybe a controversial thing to say... but that's how things usually are.

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I see what you mean, Dreaminess.

I've had that happen to me several times (age probably helps - young people drama).

Mostly I've had secret crushes and I was also a secret crush several times (I know because 1. It was obvious after a while, to a careful observer, and 2. Some of them actually confessed their feelings/interest).

I don't have Venus/Pluto nor Venus/Neptune.
Perhaps it's transiting Neptune in square to my natal placements.

Or my natal Moon/Pluto square; or Venus trine Saturn and Moon opposite Saturn - I used to give off a very "cold," unapproachable vibe, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't easy to get close to me. Actually that's probably still true today. lol



Thank you for understanding. Its so hard explaining situations like these. Like you, i also have had secret crushes myself, and like you, i think i am hard to approach and get close to (i have saturn opposite ascendant).So true that it becomes so obvious after a while.

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Ok then, if you think so... Do keep in mind however that there's a fine line between being perceptive and being delusional. I say this because I've been on the receiving end of such delusions several times, usually with introvert guys I knew only casually, who started to misinterpret a few friendly gestures, like talking to them for more than 10 minutes straight. I was taken by surprise in each and every case because they knew very well I was in a committed relationship (I always make that clear very soon), and therefore off-limits as a love interest. It did not phase them at all, they were so hung-up on the idea I had shown romantic interest in them when that was 100% not the case that they even insisted on this when I told them straight out it wasn't true. Two or three times this got to the point of scariness and forced me to cut off all contact

That's why your description of the situation makes me a little bit uneasy. Not saying what you do is the same thing as in my example, mind you, it definitely IS possible that someone might like you and be too shy to approach you. You could find that out rather easily by trying to be a little more friendly, inviting and approachable than usual, like smiling at them and being attentive. Sometimes shy guys need a little encouragement to act.

However, if they do not take the bait, it's perhaps a good idea not to over-interpret so-called "signs" they supposedly send you, and rather look at what they actually do or say (like in Doux Reve's example where they told her they liked her. Now that's a statement).


Its very very hard to explain situations like these without coming off as "delusional" but belive me when i say its very obvious after a while. And like i said earlier, they hint at it. And i dont mean "hint" by being verbal with me. Its in their eyes, body behaviour everything is so non verbal. Actually alot of the men that have had a crush on me arent close to me, they know who i am but they dont know me know me and this is why i know even more why they feel more for me bc of how they get when i am around.

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posted August 27, 2014 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Its very very hard to explain situations like these without coming off as "delusional" but belive me when i say its very obvious after a while. And like i said earlier, they hint at it. And i dont mean "hint" by being verbal with me. Its in their eyes, body behaviour everything is so non verbal. Actually alot of the men that have had a crush on me arent close to me, they know who i am but they dont know me know me and this is why i know even more why they feel more for me bc of how they get when i am around.

Things like that happen to me too. I do not want to sound arrogant. In fact it is sometimes annoying if men do not see me as a person, they only see me as an "crush". I put that on my Venus, Pluto, Mars conjunction in my natal.

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Things like that happen to me too. I do not want to sound arrogant. In fact it is sometimes annoying if men do not see me as a person, they only see me as an "crush". I put that on my Venus, Pluto, Mars conjunction in my natal.


This is what annoys me to, that they only see me as a crush but nothing more.Yeah i know,its so annoying trying to explain situations like these and people will just assume you`re being arrogant or delusional when in fact this is something that greatly bothers me.Its hard explaining situations like these bc not many understand it.Do you also have any neptune aspects esp hard ones? or do you think this is more venus/pluto related?

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posted August 27, 2014 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Neptune square Jupiter. Why? Do you think with a square men do not see you anymore?

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