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Topic: I need to admit something.
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MiaPluto
Knowflake Posts: 484
From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Registered: Aug 2014
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posted August 31, 2014 07:00 AM
  
I am a girl and I admit that I am more attracted to guys who are controlling.For me, it would be awkward to have a relationship with someone who is too nice, gives me too much freedom. The reason I want a relationship in the first place is because I want to feel like I belong to and with someone. It's not exciting without some tension, arguments. I crave more for a scorpionic relationship, pluto-mars, pluto-moon, pluto-venus relationship with neptune there too. A deep relationship that only us two can understand, that we feel like it's a relationship like no other. Where we have something between us that is not explainable. Something secret that only us two know and can understand. Something unique. Not just any relationship. They say that hate is more powerful than love. I would love to have a love-hate relationship. If my partner gives me too much freedom, too much space or is too nice, it would make me feel neglected instead of wanted or loved. Do you think that it says it in my chart?  ------------------
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SDragon
Moderator Posts: 333
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 31, 2014 07:56 AM
Yes. Lots of aspects and signs in houses that could explain that. Also 5 retrograde planets explain your self-awareness even though you have few planets in your Southern Hemisphere. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 31, 2014 10:16 AM
The DSC conjunctions including NN may be a giving away of power.------------------
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Nine
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From: The Cusp of Love
Registered: May 2009
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posted August 31, 2014 10:42 AM
Mercury as 7HR in aspect to Sun & Pluto, that would be my guesses.IP: Logged |
Gracha
Knowflake Posts: 151
From: NY USA
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted August 31, 2014 11:18 AM
Hmm that mars in the 8th and sun/mercury squaring pluto yikes, could be the culprit. I have to agree with you somewhat because i go for the intense relationships, no superficial stuff here or people need not apply. I have venus in taurus opposite pluto and saturn along with aries mars widely opposite pluto and saturn. I have a few pluto contacts. You have some good points that i totally identify with there even the type of man.IP: Logged |
Swift Freeze
Moderator Posts: 646
From: One World
Registered: Nov 2009
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posted August 31, 2014 11:20 AM
I understand where you are coming from.Make sure you choose carefully someone who will treat you how you wish but respect you as a person. Don't take someone who will treat you how you wish without respecting you. Earned, not given. ------------------
Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek Happiness. Follow your dreams. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
Knowflake Posts: 6112
From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune
Registered: May 2011
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posted August 31, 2014 12:05 PM
A lot of women says she wants this, what a surprise! I'm blaming it on your culture/society.  IP: Logged |
libran_dream
Knowflake Posts: 210
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Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 31, 2014 12:24 PM
Oh yeah, lots of things.
For one, the Pisces-Virgo axis you have on your AC-DC is very concerned with the whole virgin-wh*re dychotomy. Mars with Dejanira in H8... Well if Mars is the pointer to what excites people, it's pretty clear what's up here. The Venus-Moon in H7 Libra contributes to this massively, it's a configuration that can get the native caught up in being paralyzed until someone tells them what to do. Also there's a proclivity to be willing to do anything to be loved. Venus90Neptune can get all caught up in romantic tragedies, adding to the configuration. Mars looks to be on the Venus/Pluto midpoint. The biggest issue I see here, though, is the Mercury-Pluto square. That, to me, is the driving force. What do you have at around 2CAN? There has to be something, an asteroid maybe. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 5098
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted August 31, 2014 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
A lot of women says she wants this, what a surprise! I'm blaming it on your culture/society.
Yes, I agree. In retrospect I realized much of the media I skipped growing up but most other females didn't actually encourage this desire (whereas the media I embraced instead rejected it). LOTS of women want to be "owned" however (as evident by the love stories they become devoted to), though only a minority admit to it. I respect it when honestly stated as long as they don't tell men that's what I personally want by virtue of being female (or putting down men who enjoy being dominated as well), but then if you "give permission" by saying that's what you desire then I suppose that detracts from the experience since he's not truly being dominant so ideally a man would just imitate the fantasy...which they won't, btw, as men are real people with their own driving motivations unlike the images women dream about who even at his most dominant in the fantasy is doing what the woman dreaming about him wants him to do as the fantasy is driven by the woman's desires (and only on her desires) whereas actual men operate independently of that on his own desires instead (though men often have a hard time distinguishing between real women and their own unrealistic fantasies, too). In my case, I've known "love/hate" and find the hellish sensation the absolutely worst thing to feel and wonder if anyone who experiences it truly enjoys it, or just enjoys the fantasy of it without actually understanding what it's like. But then I suppose it's possible all my Libra and Sag influences are yet another reason why such isn't for me (or put another way, does the media shape us, or are we instinctively drawn to the media that reflects our inherent desires as reflected in our natal charts?). IP: Logged |
Odette
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Registered: May 2012
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posted August 31, 2014 09:59 PM
You're very young so you probably need to experience certain things to figure out what you really want and need in a relationship.It usually takes people a bunch of failed relationships - or at least a couple - to become clearer on who they are, what they have to give and what they expect from a partner. What might seem appealing in a fantasy - won't always be appealing in reality. Because reality doesn't play out like a daydream where you call the shots on the amount of control you like, the amount of love/hate you find passionate (and not painful) and so on. A real-life man has a personality - and different facets to his personality.. and if he actually was controlling, you wouldn't be able to control his controlling behaviour (based on what turns you on most, based on when the right timing is for you - or the right level of intensity). So this is probably very different in practice - to what you have in mind, in your imagination. IP: Logged |
Odette
Moderator Posts: 4514
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posted August 31, 2014 10:02 PM
Pixie 
I accidentally repeated some of the things you mentioned because I only just read your post. I completely agree that the fantasy is driven by the woman's desires - hence, pleasurable. Reality could be shockingly different.IP: Logged |
PeterPan
Knowflake Posts: 416
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Registered: Jun 2013
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posted September 01, 2014 04:49 PM
Haha so you like pluto eh? well let me tell you about pluto:Ive had 2 close relationships and 1 fling(I'm only 18) All of them have stemmed from me becomming somewhat obsessed with a girl, finding out where she lives, "accidentially" bumping into her and seducing her. I have had complete controll of the relationship from the begining. And i realize that a relationship that is built upon lies could never be very healthy, but i can't controll my obsessivenes. ive always been like this, if i get infactuated with someone i planed how to pursue them since i was in elementary school. Now, this sounds really creepy, and it is! (lol i would never say this if i wasn't anonymus) annyways the point is if you get into a relationship with someone who has very heavy pluto chance is that they will lie allot, and you might end up realizing that they are a completly diffrent person than you tought they were... I would get kinda weirded out by it myself lol if it was someone else doing it to me XD IP: Logged |
Comatoes
Knowflake Posts: 254
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Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 01, 2014 04:53 PM
Your chart speaks of relationships and closeness with a combination of magic and fantasy, everything you said can be seen in your chart.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 56723
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 01, 2014 05:05 PM
PP That was one of the most amazing posts I have seen in my 6-7 years on LL. Thanks for your honesty,my Friend.------------------
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MiaPluto
Knowflake Posts: 484
From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 01, 2014 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by PeterPan:
Haha so you like pluto eh? well let me tell you about pluto:Ive had 2 close relationships and 1 fling(I'm only 18) All of them have stemmed from me becomming somewhat obsessed with a girl, finding out where she lives, "accidentially" bumping into her and seducing her. I have had complete controll of the relationship from the begining. And i realize that a relationship that is built upon lies could never be very healthy, but i can't controll my obsessivenes. ive always been like this, if i get infactuated with someone i planed how to pursue them since i was in elementary school. Now, this sounds really creepy, and it is! (lol i would never say this if i wasn't anonymus) annyways the point is if you get into a relationship with someone who has very heavy pluto chance is that they will lie allot, and you might end up realizing that they are a completly diffrent person than you tought they were... I would get kinda weirded out by it myself lol if it was someone else doing it to me XD
I am familiar with pluto relationships. I have it with my mother. (Her sun and mars conjunct my pluto exactly, and my moon conjunct her pluto exactly). In your case I think it's neptune more than pluto. Because I have a friend and we have a lot of neptune aspects and she lies a lot, to keep me happy. Pluto on the other hand never lies. It's one of the most honest planet. It says the truth no matter how harsh it is. Pluto is secretive tho, and can play mind games. Only if neptune is involved that it would cause things like cheating and lies, illusions and delusions. (I have mercury square pluto). And it's okay, it's not creepy or anything. It's normal and it's human nature. **** society. xx IP: Logged |
PeterPan
Knowflake Posts: 416
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Registered: Jun 2013
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posted September 02, 2014 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
Pluto on the other hand never lies. It's one of the most honest planet. It says the truth no matter how harsh it is. Pluto is secretive tho, and can play mind games. Only if neptune is involved that it would cause things like cheating and lies, illusions and delusions. (I have mercury square pluto). And it's okay, it's not creepy or anything. It's normal and it's human nature. **** society. xx
Ive got pluto in 7th conjunct DSC(In scorpio) It's also opposite my ascendant, mars and mercury which are all in conjunction. Neptune on the other hand trines my asc and mercury, and that's it :P I'm pretty sure it has got allot to do with pluto because of the obsession and controll aspect of it all. People don't usually admit to obsession, you may notice it but they won't come right out and tell you. Altough you may be somewhat right about pluto's compulsion for honesty; One of the girls i talked about, i walked behind her, purposely dropped my wallet when i passed her and let her come up and give it to me so that she would be the one who approached me, i got relly close with har and told her later on that i dropped it on purpose because i tought she was pretty, but i never said that i had seen her before as that would have been to much. Even strong pluto influence wont make you irrationally honest. IP: Logged |
PeterPan
Knowflake Posts: 416
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Registered: Jun 2013
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posted September 02, 2014 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
PP That was one of the most amazing posts I have seen in my 6-7 years on LL. Thanks for your honesty, my Friend.
I'm glad you think so i think without honesty a forum where we discuss behaviour would be much less valuable... IP: Logged |
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