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margym0o
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posted September 02, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last week I discovered my co-worker is into astrology as much as I am, if not maybe moreso. She said she visits a professional astrologer about twice a year and had her children's charts done when they were young. Note to add: the astrologer predicted her SON would marry into money - he did - he married a woman 17 years older than himself who inherited an estate - but anyways...

She said this one astrologer she goes to describes all of us as having "9 lives" to live and that he is on his last life. Is there validity to this? Can it really be seen what lifetime we're in by the natal chart?

Another fun note: The astrologer pointed out that she had drown in a past life which she totally believes because she has had a recurring nightmare of herself drowning since she was young.

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carm76
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posted September 02, 2014 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carm76     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm in Ontario, Can I the astrologers name?

I would love to learn more about past life astrology.

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posted September 02, 2014 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No way. Goes against all conventional wisdom amassed by several religions and branches of Eastern philosophical thought. It also doesn't jive with modern physics.

If we all only had 9 Earth lives, we'd know that by now.

I DO feel the reason why we have 9 major planets to evaluate in the basic natal can't be total happenstance. But each representing a life? No. I'd be much more akin to following Cayce's dimensional theory.

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Nine
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posted September 02, 2014 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This 9 Lives theory sounds interesting. Tell us more.

*every 9 years the nodal axis flip
*every 9 years we have our lifepath return
*a solar/life cycle is roughly 12 months (9 mos in the womb, 90 days outside)
*Nine sets of nodal returns & 9 sets of lifepath returns.

So, much as the rising and setting of the Sun is a fractal of the sleep-wake cycle, which in turn is a fractal of the life-death cycle. This astrologer believes that these 9 year cycles is a fractal of lifetime cycles. Interesting....

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IndigoDirae
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posted September 02, 2014 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Might be interesting, but too easily disproved.

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LucieLemonade
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posted September 03, 2014 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Might be interesting, but too easily disproved.

How can it be disproved? (Or proved for that matter?)

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posted September 04, 2014 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
How can it be disproved? (Or proved for that matter?)

You can't.

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LucieLemonade
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posted September 04, 2014 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
You can't.

Well, yes. I'd be interested to hear ID's take on how she thinks we can prove it.

It's an interesting concept though.

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Jessica2407
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posted September 04, 2014 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What happens to us after the 9th life?

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carm76
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posted September 04, 2014 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carm76     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering if it maybe along the same lines of the Buddhism teachings, 8 fold path and the 4 Noble Truths.

The 9 Lives would be Earth lives so between one would rest, learn, teach and have lives on other worlds. I love to go to a Risa like planet

After the ninth life, I think one would move on to another theme. What if we have 9 lives to experience one type of theme?
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posted September 04, 2014 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh, cats have evolved so much in past years - that now, you can find them even on forums - talking about astrology. They've already concurred YouTube with their cat videos - and since Jupiter is in Pussycat - i presume they're up for an expansion.

As for the 9 lives myth - that's old news by now. So, is this meant as a rectification? Hmm, i see. It wasn't about 9 lives - as in, the ability to die 9 times and come back to life again, but - 9 past lives. Makes sense - i guess. And there's proof everywhere:

- this cat for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVV_HXtEbLo - was probbaly a Meerkat in a past life.

- the famous YouTube celebrity Henry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvQPzmoKuBk - was probbaly a politician or a philosopher.

Anyway - i'm glad you cats decided to come forward - and show us humans that - you can talk and think like us. You even have similar interests. Wasn't that weird for me - though. I always knew - you cats can talk. But you don't fool me - with this 9 lives interest - that's suppose to be related to astrology. I know - it's all about cat food: http://9lives.com/ HA! -_-

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MiaPluto
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posted September 04, 2014 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaPluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

There's an astrologer that my mom met the first time, and during his short interppretation he told her the exact year she married, the exact year her father died etc.

He practiced vedic astrology I think.

We were so shocked.

Realized there are many things we don't know about astrology.

We do too much psychological astrology, blind to the other mysteries and knowledge of the sacred art of astrology.

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posted September 04, 2014 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7Grace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At first, I thought this idea might be linked to Lunar Phases in Natal Chart, but there are only 8 phases. It may still interest you though: http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/lunarphases.html

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posted September 05, 2014 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
9 lifetimes as it pertains to reincarnation,
Or 9 possible exit points in one lifetime?

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posted September 05, 2014 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We incarnate and reincarnate more than 9 times. I see where you're going but the answer is no. We don't have just 9 lives

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Aubyanne
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posted September 05, 2014 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
You can't.

I respectfully disagree. There's far too much information compiled across centuries that has never remotely referred to such a concept. Millennia, if you will.

This sounds like a newfangled fad. Someone must be bored.

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Aubyanne
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posted September 05, 2014 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
We incarnate and reincarnate more than 9 times. I see where you're going but the answer is no. We don't have just 9 lives

Exactly.

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Aubyanne
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posted September 05, 2014 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
Interesting.

There's an astrologer that my mom met the first time, and during his short interppretation he told her the exact year she married, the exact year her father died etc.

He practiced vedic astrology I think.

We were so shocked.

Realized there are many things we don't know about astrology.

We do too much psychological astrology, blind to the other mysteries and knowledge of the sacred art of astrology.


Vedic is a wonderful discipline. I highly suggest studying under a master, if you can. I was very fortunate.

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Aubyanne
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posted September 05, 2014 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason for my vehement disagreement here stems from my understanding of both Eastern philosophy and modern physics. Anyone who has studied the nature of time in depth knows that the mere mention of a soul having only nine lives is preposterous. The multiverse is infinite in its composition; if this particular astrologer is trying to float so limited a concept, I can't help but question the methods used.

Quantum mechanics (modern physics) has finally come to embrace some of the classic Buddhist tradition in its scope of possibility. The understanding of time as a nonlinear, hyperdimensional construct, and reincarnation as a cycle which occurs in sub-cycles of thousands. The category of 'new soul', for example, would be souls who are only a few hundred thousand years old. Old souls would be boasting lifephase experiences in the billions.

But, again, how we measure time is a wonky practise. How it runs elsewhere is entirely dependent upon from what perspective it's being perceived.

Perhaps this astrologer is more trying to quantify a sense of groupings of lifephases; the MOON representing, for example, lives and experiences in which we were a mothering, maternal, caregiving, family-oriented influence. The SUN where we were royalty, fathers, leaders, heads of state. URANUS where we broke the rules, pioneered, were eccentric and unpredictable -- PLUTO where we dominated our region, or even world, applying SATURN's mastery in far-reaching ways.

Who can say?

I've always thought the planets could be utilised in this 'karmic snapshot' format. But, honestly, I'd consider more than each would be a representation of the twelve dimensions of time that are observable along a single timeline.

I'm still trying to decide which 12 points to use, however. The 12 signs are a given, of course, and give rise to the potential utility of such a method.

But nine lives total? I apologise, but I'm simply too educated in the areas involved to jump onto that bandwagon.

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posted September 05, 2014 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carm76:
I'm wondering if it maybe along the same lines of the Buddhism teachings, 8 fold path and the 4 Noble Truths.

The 9 Lives would be Earth lives so between one would rest, learn, teach and have lives on other worlds. I love to go to a Risa like planet

After the ninth life, I think one would move on to another theme. What if we have 9 lives to experience one type of theme?


If you'd like to learn more about the theory of 'lives between lives' take a look into Cayce's contribution to astrology; his planetary dimensional theory. He never placed any limitation on how many lives are led, but he came up with some fantastic explanations for how the planetary energies might be representative of a soul's individual journey -- as represented by the time of birth.

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carm76
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posted September 06, 2014 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carm76     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks Aubyanne

Sounds like an interesting read

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