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Topic: We All Live "9 Lives" - Indicated in the Natal Chart?
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margym0o Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 02, 2014 02:01 PM
Last week I discovered my co-worker is into astrology as much as I am, if not maybe moreso. She said she visits a professional astrologer about twice a year and had her children's charts done when they were young. Note to add: the astrologer predicted her SON would marry into money - he did - he married a woman 17 years older than himself who inherited an estate - but anyways...She said this one astrologer she goes to describes all of us as having "9 lives" to live and that he is on his last life. Is there validity to this? Can it really be seen what lifetime we're in by the natal chart? Another fun note: The astrologer pointed out that she had drown in a past life which she totally believes because she has had a recurring nightmare of herself drowning since she was young. IP: Logged |
carm76 Knowflake Posts: 207 From: toronto, on Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 02, 2014 02:25 PM
I'm in Ontario, Can I the astrologers name?I would love to learn more about past life astrology. ------------------ All The Best Carm IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 02, 2014 03:22 PM
No way. Goes against all conventional wisdom amassed by several religions and branches of Eastern philosophical thought. It also doesn't jive with modern physics.If we all only had 9 Earth lives, we'd know that by now. I DO feel the reason why we have 9 major planets to evaluate in the basic natal can't be total happenstance. But each representing a life? No. I'd be much more akin to following Cayce's dimensional theory. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 1958 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted September 02, 2014 06:27 PM
This 9 Lives theory sounds interesting. Tell us more.*every 9 years the nodal axis flip *every 9 years we have our lifepath return *a solar/life cycle is roughly 12 months (9 mos in the womb, 90 days outside) *Nine sets of nodal returns & 9 sets of lifepath returns. So, much as the rising and setting of the Sun is a fractal of the sleep-wake cycle, which in turn is a fractal of the life-death cycle. This astrologer believes that these 9 year cycles is a fractal of lifetime cycles. Interesting.... IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 02, 2014 07:16 PM
Might be interesting, but too easily disproved.IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 993 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 03, 2014 01:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Might be interesting, but too easily disproved.
How can it be disproved? (Or proved for that matter?) IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1250 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 04, 2014 12:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by LucieLemonade: How can it be disproved? (Or proved for that matter?)
You can't. IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 993 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 04, 2014 07:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by theunknown: You can't.
Well, yes. I'd be interested to hear ID's take on how she thinks we can prove it. It's an interesting concept though. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5059 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 04, 2014 07:41 AM
What happens to us after the 9th life?IP: Logged |
carm76 Knowflake Posts: 207 From: toronto, on Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 04, 2014 08:27 AM
I'm wondering if it maybe along the same lines of the Buddhism teachings, 8 fold path and the 4 Noble Truths.The 9 Lives would be Earth lives so between one would rest, learn, teach and have lives on other worlds. I love to go to a Risa like planet  After the ninth life, I think one would move on to another theme. What if we have 9 lives to experience one type of theme? ------------------ All The Best IP: Logged |
7thGuardian Knowflake Posts: 1367 From: Transylvania Registered: May 2012
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posted September 04, 2014 02:25 PM
Gosh, cats have evolved so much in past years - that now, you can find them even on forums - talking about astrology. They've already concurred YouTube with their cat videos - and since Jupiter is in Pussycat - i presume they're up for an expansion.As for the 9 lives myth - that's old news by now. So, is this meant as a rectification? Hmm, i see. It wasn't about 9 lives - as in, the ability to die 9 times and come back to life again, but - 9 past lives. Makes sense - i guess. And there's proof everywhere: - this cat for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVV_HXtEbLo - was probbaly a Meerkat in a past life. - the famous YouTube celebrity Henry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvQPzmoKuBk - was probbaly a politician or a philosopher. Anyway - i'm glad you cats decided to come forward - and show us humans that - you can talk and think like us. You even have similar interests. Wasn't that weird for me - though. I always knew - you cats can talk. But you don't fool me - with this 9 lives interest - that's suppose to be related to astrology. I know - it's all about cat food: http://9lives.com/ HA! -_- IP: Logged |
MiaPluto Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 04, 2014 09:21 PM
Interesting.There's an astrologer that my mom met the first time, and during his short interppretation he told her the exact year she married, the exact year her father died etc. He practiced vedic astrology I think. We were so shocked. Realized there are many things we don't know about astrology. We do too much psychological astrology, blind to the other mysteries and knowledge of the sacred art of astrology. ------------------ Mia x IP: Logged |
7Grace Knowflake Posts: 103 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 04, 2014 10:29 PM
At first, I thought this idea might be linked to Lunar Phases in Natal Chart, but there are only 8 phases. It may still interest you though: http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/lunarphases.html IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9634 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 05, 2014 01:51 AM
9 lifetimes as it pertains to reincarnation, Or 9 possible exit points in one lifetime?IP: Logged |
NYCdodger Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 05, 2014 12:19 PM
We incarnate and reincarnate more than 9 times. I see where you're going but the answer is no. We don't have just 9 livesIP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 266 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 05, 2014 04:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by theunknown: You can't.
I respectfully disagree. There's far too much information compiled across centuries that has never remotely referred to such a concept. Millennia, if you will. This sounds like a newfangled fad. Someone must be bored. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 266 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 05, 2014 04:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by NYCdodger: We incarnate and reincarnate more than 9 times. I see where you're going but the answer is no. We don't have just 9 lives
Exactly. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 266 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 05, 2014 04:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by MiaPluto: Interesting.There's an astrologer that my mom met the first time, and during his short interppretation he told her the exact year she married, the exact year her father died etc. He practiced vedic astrology I think. We were so shocked. Realized there are many things we don't know about astrology. We do too much psychological astrology, blind to the other mysteries and knowledge of the sacred art of astrology.
Vedic is a wonderful discipline. I highly suggest studying under a master, if you can. I was very fortunate. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 266 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 05, 2014 04:52 PM
The reason for my vehement disagreement here stems from my understanding of both Eastern philosophy and modern physics. Anyone who has studied the nature of time in depth knows that the mere mention of a soul having only nine lives is preposterous. The multiverse is infinite in its composition; if this particular astrologer is trying to float so limited a concept, I can't help but question the methods used.Quantum mechanics (modern physics) has finally come to embrace some of the classic Buddhist tradition in its scope of possibility. The understanding of time as a nonlinear, hyperdimensional construct, and reincarnation as a cycle which occurs in sub-cycles of thousands. The category of 'new soul', for example, would be souls who are only a few hundred thousand years old. Old souls would be boasting lifephase experiences in the billions. But, again, how we measure time is a wonky practise. How it runs elsewhere is entirely dependent upon from what perspective it's being perceived. Perhaps this astrologer is more trying to quantify a sense of groupings of lifephases; the MOON representing, for example, lives and experiences in which we were a mothering, maternal, caregiving, family-oriented influence. The SUN where we were royalty, fathers, leaders, heads of state. URANUS where we broke the rules, pioneered, were eccentric and unpredictable -- PLUTO where we dominated our region, or even world, applying SATURN's mastery in far-reaching ways. Who can say? I've always thought the planets could be utilised in this 'karmic snapshot' format. But, honestly, I'd consider more than each would be a representation of the twelve dimensions of time that are observable along a single timeline. I'm still trying to decide which 12 points to use, however. The 12 signs are a given, of course, and give rise to the potential utility of such a method. But nine lives total? I apologise, but I'm simply too educated in the areas involved to jump onto that bandwagon. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 266 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 05, 2014 04:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by carm76: I'm wondering if it maybe along the same lines of the Buddhism teachings, 8 fold path and the 4 Noble Truths.The 9 Lives would be Earth lives so between one would rest, learn, teach and have lives on other worlds. I love to go to a Risa like planet  After the ninth life, I think one would move on to another theme. What if we have 9 lives to experience one type of theme?
If you'd like to learn more about the theory of 'lives between lives' take a look into Cayce's contribution to astrology; his planetary dimensional theory. He never placed any limitation on how many lives are led, but he came up with some fantastic explanations for how the planetary energies might be representative of a soul's individual journey -- as represented by the time of birth. IP: Logged |
carm76 Knowflake Posts: 207 From: toronto, on Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 06, 2014 08:39 PM
Thanks AubyanneSounds like an interesting read  IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 44451 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 09, 2014 12:37 PM
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