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ReeseC
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posted September 09, 2014 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry guys, I know it's a touchy subject, but what would make somebody sex crazed as indicated in their natal chart?

Do you think that it's different depending on gender?

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posted September 09, 2014 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just a few asteroids i know that might apply to this (& if you need)

875 Nymphe
4386 Lust
7328 Casanova
228029 Maniac
18624 Prevert

i believe there are indicators in nympho's, there are indicators for any possibility actually. you just have to know where to look at or have experience in this. i sadly don't, i mostly specialize in criminals and psychos...

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posted September 09, 2014 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReeseC:
Sorry guys, I know it's a touchy subject, but what would make somebody sex crazed as indicated in their natal chart?

Offhand, I can't think of either a nymphomaniac or satyr that wasn't suffering some sort of mental health issue, typically with a background in being sexually abused. In some cases sex was more of a weapon and/or means of control, but more often as a means of combating insecurity. Girls especially sometimes find the only way to get any attention (especially if they have a "reputation") is to be sexual, but it's not the sex they're after, that's just a means to an end and therefore not true nymphomania.

But I have read interviews of Annie Sprinkle (who vividly describes the sex she's pursued pretty much her whole life and often wondered why she got such big tips when working as a massage partly as she didn't realizing they thought she was a prostitute, for example) and I think she qualifies as a true nympho. Here's her chart:
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Annie_Sprinkle

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Originally posted by ReeseC:
Do you think that it's different depending on gender?

One of my favorite definitions of "**** " on urban dictionary is "woman with the morals of a man."

Obviously, a man is encouraged to act this way even if he doesn't really want to and a woman discouraged, and that can't help but make a difference, both in the individual and also in how the individual is defined & treated by society.

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posted September 09, 2014 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 09, 2014 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
One of my favorite definitions of "**** " on urban dictionary is "woman with the morals of a man."

Obviously, a man is encouraged to act this way even if he doesn't really want to and a woman discouraged, and that can't help but make a difference, both in the individual and also in how the individual is defined & treated by society.


Does this apply to men as well? My brother just turned 23, and he is truly the definition of a nympho as he literally goes through women weekly. I asked him if he was acting any issues out on women, and he said "sex is the only way he can properly work out his **** without being destructive" at the same time, most guys are promiscuous in their youth right?

Would a progressed chart reveal this more? A solar return?

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posted September 09, 2014 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
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posted September 09, 2014 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReeseC:
Does this apply to men as well? My brother just turned 23, and he is truly the definition of a nympho as he literally goes through women weekly. I asked him if he was acting any issues out on women, and he said "sex is the only way he can properly work out his **** without being destructive" at the same time, most guys are promiscuous in their youth right?

Would a progressed chart reveal this more? A solar return?


I'm not sure that counts. Besides, plenty of guys gain a sense of entitlement that they must have sexual relief that sometimes gets absurd. And that's before counting any psychological problems that may be at work there. It COULD be sexual addiction (which is how I'm seeing nymphomania for both genders), but not necessarily so because of the culture.

Though it is interesting to think of James Bond, Captain Kirk, Charlie of Two and a Half Men, or even Barney of How I Met Your Mother being female characters instead...Hmmm...Jenna Bond and Captain Jane T. Kirk, and about to get into someone else's pants, even that of aliens for Captain Jane Kirk...

Why don't you post his chart? I've known some who were far more into sex for whatever reason that seemed excessive (as in obsessive) to me and I can see if I see any notable similarities as I'm sure others can. After all, this is more about your brother rather than a general question, right?

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posted September 09, 2014 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I'm not sure that counts. Besides, plenty of guys gain a sense of entitlement that they must have sexual relief that sometimes gets absurd. And that's before counting any psychological problems that may be at work there. It COULD be sexual addiction (which is how I'm seeing nymphomania for both genders), but not necessarily so because of the culture.

Though it is interesting to think of James Bond, Captain Kirk, Charlie of Two and a Half Men, or even Barney of How I Met Your Mother being female characters instead...Hmmm...Jenna Bond and Captain Jane T. Kirk, and about to get into someone else's pants, even that of aliens for Captain Jane Kirk...

Why don't you post his chart? I've known some who were far more into sex for whatever reason that seemed excessive (as in obsessive) to me and I can see if I see any notable similarities as I'm sure others can. After all, this is more about your brother rather than a general question, right?


The boy is a horn dog. Girls love him, and he literally takes the bait every single time....even with sorry to say.. Ugly girls. Like girls that would never get noticed normally by him, but sexually, he takes full advantage of it.

I told him to slow his role, but he can't and feels like until he gets married, everybody is fair game. I think he got it from my dad(who raised me). My dad is one of 7 sons, and all of them have been married more than twice, and are HUGE philanderers. Even his father was a cheater, and even a bigamist at one point. Lol

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posted September 10, 2014 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He shares a a placements with my mom who was very sexually active in her youth in rebellion against the community (though I agree with her that the community was very hypocritical and I don't respect their condemnation of her either, not even the parts where I agree Mom is right to be condemned, just not by them who are as bad in their own way), that being Aqua Saturn (which can inspire one to adopt the values of someone the person admires, which in my mom's case was those who could control and even destroy men sexually). She also has a Leo stellium like your brother and if your bro is a "guy version" of my mom then he could get a feeling of achievement by "scoring" sexually, each conquest a form of self-validation and even superiority.

However, my guess is that his asteroids are much more significant. I'll leave that to others here who are much more knowledgeable of asteroids, but I can say a nymphomaniac friend of mine (long ago) also has a Sag Eros (in a stellium, though not as strong as stellium as I have), and this placement can have a playful, intense (and surprisingly innocent in a sexual way) energy that attracts a lot of people, and can treat it like a sport. Sag Eros can also prefer not to be tied down to true intimacy but move on to the next goal. I do see a lot more in her chart than Sag eros for her hypersexuality, however.

I also have a Sag Eros (in 5H which is Leo energy) and though I'm not promiscuous, I don't have a problem separating love & sex (that's not to say I can't be trusted to keep my commitments) and when I was in my experimental phase I was extremely active and uninhibited, I even accepted an invite to a sex club that had all sorts of kinkiness going on (until I got bored and focused my energies elsewhere). The point being is that what's said about Sag Eros is true of me in that I don't confuse lust & love, and when I was just after the sex I was careful to keep my sex partners away from my personal life and at an arms distance (though I was also experimental with my actual lovers, too), I didn't fall in love with them no matter how much fun I might've had.

So I imagine Sag Eros is a factor (not to be confused with "the cause") in your brother's behavior as well.

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posted September 10, 2014 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not really the best way to identify sexual addiction (dysfunction) in a natal.

In my experience, however, afflicted PRIAPUS conjunct a luminary with a strong NESSUS; especially NESSUS conjunct PRIAPUS.

NYMPHE does not typically appear in charts of sex addiction. Afflicted MARS, especially in hard aspect to NEPTUNE and PLUTO. When in a hard configuration with the MOON or 8R or 5R, it can swing towards the anorexia side of the addiction spectrum.

Just my findings / professional input.

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posted September 10, 2014 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReeseC:
Does this apply to men as well? My brother just turned 23, and he is truly the definition of a nympho as he literally goes through women weekly. I asked him if he was acting any issues out on women, and he said "sex is the only way he can properly work out his **** without being destructive" at the same time, most guys are promiscuous in their youth right?

Would a progressed chart reveal this more? A solar return?


You'd have to message me privately, Reese, as I can't really get into it here without overstepping censorship guidelines. Let's say that promiscuity can be an early sign of an addiction, but it's by no means THE sign.

Honestly, the ability to actively pursue much sexual activity is better than excessively handling oneself ... solo. (You follow.) However, if he feels he's sublimating his rage (anger drive) through sexual conquest or just excessive libido -- THAT's a problem. THAT needs to be looked into and sorted out.

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posted September 10, 2014 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
My dad abandoned me when I was young, and I personally can't help but find something better in more mature men.
The story can go on.

Are you getting help in that area, Luna? I know you've spoken of it before. If you wish to truly help others, I urge you to work on yourself now.

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posted September 10, 2014 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damn. There are some real problems, Reese. His solar energy is completely intercepted (Leo) and his SUN is conjunct his MOON and BACCHUS. JUPITER's conjunct the 8R by 2°. Yep. Yep, yep, yep.

MARS square URANUS. Yep, that's afflicted.

Okay, I'm going to have to study that more deeply. So far, I'm definitely seeing how the libido is being used in a compensatory fashion for the anger drive. Simply put, he's got rage issues. Sex won't solve, but only compound, the problem.

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posted September 11, 2014 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Damn. There are some real problems, Reese. His solar energy is completely intercepted (Leo) and his SUN is conjunct his MOON and BACCHUS. JUPITER's conjunct the 8R by 2°. Yep. Yep, yep, yep.

MARS square URANUS. Yep, that's afflicted.

Okay, I'm going to have to study that more deeply. So far, I'm definitely seeing how the libido is being used in a compensatory fashion for the anger drive. Simply put, he's got rage issues. Sex won't solve, but only compound, the problem.


You know, I can't speak too much about it openly because it's kind of personal, but this is actually spot on. He has the worst temper since we were kids, and now, ever since being "active", he seems to use it as therapy as he refuses to go get counseling. He is an angry individual though, loving, but angry.

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Looks like poor impulse control, something needed to be a successful business man. He should probably stray away from those fields.

Nymphomania is difficult to deduce in our society because most people between the ages of 18-25 will sleep with whoever, whenever, all the time.

Nymphomania becomes more of an issue if you're sleeping around like a roving animal between the ages o 30-40.

A nymphomaniac will have an outbreak of an std and still have sex. They're lust is uncontrollable. It is really, really rare.

The average girl my age has slept with over 30 guys and the average guy my age the same. This is a new era and a person should be assessed based on today's standards, not the standards from 20 years ago.

I am not even that promiscuous and I've slept with 30 people, and I'm kind of a prude and a lame duck, so imagine your girlfriend or boyfriend who looks like a model - they are probably in the 100's.

I remember when I had a steady girl for two years we were shagging almost 4-6 times a day every day....

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posted September 11, 2014 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReeseC:
You know, I can't speak too much about it openly because it's kind of personal, but this is actually spot on. He has the worst temper since we were kids, and now, ever since being "active", he seems to use it as therapy as he refuses to go get counseling. He is an angry individual though, loving, but angry.

I fully understand. You're welcome to contact me privately.

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posted September 11, 2014 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlexDern:
Looks like poor impulse control, something needed to be a successful business man. He should probably stray away from those fields.

Nymphomania is difficult to deduce in our society because most people between the ages of 18-25 will sleep with whoever, whenever, all the time.

Nymphomania becomes more of an issue if you're sleeping around like a roving animal between the ages o 30-40.

A nymphomaniac will have an outbreak of an std and still have sex. They're lust is uncontrollable. It is really, really rare.

The average girl my age has slept with over 30 guys and the average guy my age the same. This is a new era and a person should be assessed based on today's standards, not the standards from 20 years ago.

I am not even that promiscuous and I've slept with 30 people, and I'm kind of a prude and a lame duck, so imagine your girlfriend or boyfriend who looks like a model - they are probably in the 100's.

I remember when I had a steady girl for two years we were shagging almost 4-6 times a day every day....


Actually, those numbers are pretty excessive. Even by today's standards.

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posted September 13, 2014 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a mental illness.

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posted September 14, 2014 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
It's a mental illness.

I was wondering if you could explain this further.

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posted September 14, 2014 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.healthgrades.com/conditions/nymphomania

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posted September 14, 2014 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
It's a mental illness.

I agree that anyone that has indiscriminate sex is suffering from some sort of mental issue. I have never met a promiscuous person that is really happy. They are suffering from a great deal of pain deep down, and sexual conquests are seen as validation, and a temporary relief from the pain. It's no different from drug or alcohol addiction, it's an escape for them.

When people have sex there is an exchange of energy that is permanently imprinted on them. If people realized this, they wouldn't be so nonchalant about sleeping around. It scars their souls. I can always sense when two people have had sex, even years later, and I can see these "scars" on people. I try not to be so judgmental, and realize it's their perogative to do what they want to do, but so often people hurt others with their actions by cheating or living out kinky fantasies with strangers. Whatever the underlying motive is...low self esteem, depression, anger, or victims of sexual abuse feeling empowered by their conquests, they are trying to fill a void.


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posted September 14, 2014 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I agree that anyone that has indiscriminate sex is suffering from some sort of mental issue. I have never met a promiscuous person that is really happy. They are suffering from a great deal of pain deep down, and sexual conquests are seen as validation, and a temporary relief from the pain. It's no different from drug or alcohol addiction, it's an escape for them


If you're talking nymphomania and obsession then I agree with you (though I accept the possibility that some are wired so that it works for them). However, you make it sound like anyone who doesn't treat sex as sacred in very limited ways has a problem, and on that one I'd have to say I disagree very strongly from experience and observation both (similar to how someone who has an occasional beer or glass of wine with strangers is different from the self-destructive alcoholic who gets little joy from drinking but does it compulsively). And I've seen plenty who view sex that way who are also miserable souls, right along with the nymphomaniacs.

Maybe if I saw these supposed "scars" then I could see where you're coming from more, though I'm not certain I'd necessarily describe them as "scars" even then (again, this is if you're essentially defining nymphomania as anyone who is promiscuous as opposed to just those out of control with compulsion that they often hate having).

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posted September 14, 2014 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^I was referring specifically to people that have "indiscriminate sex", meaning they may not even know the person's name, or may not even be attracted to the person. They are trying to fill some type of void in their lives. I have never met a promiscuous person, especially women, that are that are truly happy, or feel good about what they are doing. They may appear to be having a good time, but sexual conquests are used as a validation for something they are lacking. Guys that sleep around and brag to their friends are feeding their ego, but they wouldn't feel the need to do this if they weren't feeling inadequate in some way.

My chart is mostly Scorpio, and while I wasn't suggesting all sex must be sacred, I'd rather be celibate than hook up with random guys out of loneliness. Some people are wired differently, and don't take sex so seriously. I realize this, but it doesn't change the fact that energy is exchanged.

It's more noticeable in women, because of the feminine energy being receptive. I'm sure we all know two people that are friends that have had sex, and if it doesn't turn into a relationship, it changes the friendship. That's because there is a permanent energetic imprint when two people have been intimate. I have known a lot of people that will literally have sex with anyone, and these are not happy people. One girl couldn't go to McDonalds without picking up a random guy to screw in the bathroom. Although she was outwardly attractive, her soul was hardened and scarred from all of these encounters. I use the word scar because they are low vibration energies that leave a permanent imprint.

ReeseC, sorry I didn't add to the astrological discussion. I'll look at some charts of men and women I know to see if I notice any patterns, but unfortunately I don't have birthtimes. House placements and rulerships can make all the difference in looking for certain patterns.

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posted September 14, 2014 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

Okay, that sounds like the nymphomania Randall was describing then.

And I'll share about something in case you have any insights into it. When I was a runaway me and a friend got with a krew. One option we were presented with was turning tricks. My friend was very promiscuous and philosophically I didn't have a problem with prostitution, especially not with the lies I'd been told about it. I had to change my mind before I even saw the john they were going to hook me up with because I could FEEL him before I saw him. And when I could physically see him it was even worse, though it's hard to put it into words, like the body "looked clammy" and the eyes were pits (though oddly enough most had tinted windows and also wore sunglasses even at night). My friend went through with it whereas I opted out (other criminal options were also open to me).

Turning tricks was hard enough for many (save I suppose for those already acclimated to sexual abuse already) but this type of person was much worse, and drugs were pretty much required to get over the feeling of it. What was the most creepy is that most johns have a preference (typically gender and age, and sometimes even more specific than that) but these types ultimately didn't care if you were male or female, 12 or 21...all that mattered is that you still had a "spark" for want of a better word, and I overheard some talking as they referred to the new kids as "fresh meat." Naturally, the younger the better, BUT if say a 12-year-old came out onto the streets already broken spirited then they'd prefer that 18-year-old who had led a sheltered life and still under some delusion of being protected by God.

That is, it wasn't anything physical that attracted these people, it was some psychic energy that did. And this is the one case where I can relate to "scars" as those who turned tricks with them had a bit of that feeling left to them for awhile, too, and I imagined that if the kids kept it up then they'd either self-destruct completely or they'd eventually become like them, a sexual vampire of some sort.

What can you say about people like this?

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