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Ami Anne
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posted September 09, 2014 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw a FB group on this and started thinking about how one might correlate chart aspects with this. Any ideas?

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Ellynlvx
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posted September 09, 2014 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto or Uranus Node Squares to the Moon?

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Ami Anne
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posted September 09, 2014 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Pluto or Uranus Node Squares to the Moon?


Why, E?

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PlutoSurvivor
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posted September 09, 2014 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 3 charts who have suffered this. i will see if i can find them and compare.

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TempuraNostril
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posted September 09, 2014 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TempuraNostril     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think PTSD is something that can necessarily be gleaned from a natal chart, as it is not something you are born with.

Traumatic events that correlate with specific transits from which PTSD may develop could lead you in the right direction, but how we choose to deal with these specific events at any point in time is individual to all of us.

There could be chart placements/configurations that could indicate a person's susceptibility to developing PTSD, in relation to how they deal with traumatic events and crises in their life (Moon/Uranus aspects for example). But again, I don't think it is something that can be precisely pin-pointed.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 09, 2014 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, PS. I think one can ascertain PTSD by looking at several different factors in the chart but I will wait to hear what others say first.

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posted September 10, 2014 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagical     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. The trauma started in my baby/toddler years and continued on to middle age when I shed my high toxic bio family. It took seven separations but the final one did it.

I don't know how to post my chart, but I'll put the details down.

4/3/71 0900 hours 114W05 51N03

Aspect wise it could be my 12th house Saturn squaring my MC and nodes, as well as that volatile t square. Venus square Jupiter/Neptune conj that would show delusional relationships with no boundaries.

Sage

PS. Transiting Saturn over the past two years has helped straighten things out internally. It first opposed my chart ruler. Right now the Uranus/Pluto transits are helping with the intense process of working through things as well as self reinvention

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posted September 10, 2014 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Why, E?



Well, that just seemed to encapsulate the symptoms.

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kali_caduceus
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posted September 10, 2014 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kali_caduceus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is something I am also researching. I agree with TempuraNostril. It is not something readily identifiable, especially because most humans endure a form of PTSD, just on a different scale (a continuum of suffering). Also, each birth chart and subsequent progression is an instruction as to understand/ meet the challenges of one's persona *at that immediate moment*. So the event that sparked the trauma could be the chart's relationship to a particular period of time, and not the chart's relationship to the person born under it. I'm not sure that makes sense, hah!

Certain questions must be asked then. Did the person develop the PTSD through being abused as a child? Did she develop it after she went to fight in a war? Did she develop it from a neurological disorder exacerbated by poor diet? Did the person sustain a life changing injury, like being burnt alive? Lose a loved one suddenly? This is why it is hard to locate & pinpoint a distinct pattern of symbols that would concretely express "PTSD," as we appreciate the term.

The way a pathology manifests *MIGHT* be indicated by a chart, then through planetary concentrations in certain houses, disruptive aspects, etc.

12th house experiences allegedly potentiate isolation, maybe sometimes through trauma (perhaps karmic), but also the inspire the resolute power to meet such a challenge. I have also found that stress disorders can be induced physiologically (asthma, for example, can cause emotional stress), so one must question whether the stress origin is within the physical or psychic body... Or both, most likely.

From my observations:
A weakened Venus, can lead to grief & depression & weight gain

Afflicted Mars can induce unstable anger toward self/ others

Neptune afflicted by certain poor or strong aspects with afflicted personal planets can lead toward self destructive chemical addictions. Ironically, a similar process can induce great art.

Mercury in affliction can make the person very, very nervous. No eye contact, always thinking, always paranoid. What will happen, what will happen? That sort of anxiety ridden behavior that makes one spin in circles.

(How do we calibrate the strength or weakness of the planets? The traditional exaltation and falls are good places to start, then the aspects to certain planets, the elemental relations are especially important.)

Moreso, these traumas could be continuations of intense past life events. The natal chart can just show us the doorway with which one has been called through, their dharma... It doesn't necessarily tell us all the baggage they brought!

I will let you know if I make any more progress on this. Thank you for bringing the topic up.

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