posted September 11, 2014 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Welcome to the humanity is boring club. Lol.

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posted September 11, 2014 04:12 PM            

I don't watch TV anymore. I don't know who says what, you named there kids is or that, who left who to sleep with who ...

posted September 11, 2014 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by yellowelevator:
Yep. I think I've felt like this for most of my life so far, lol. Like I'm here, physically, but inside deep down I feel like I'm from another planet, or I just feel so disconnected from mundane reality. A lot of it doesn't interest me. It's hard to find like-minded people that are more into spirituality/metaphysics, or that also feel the same way.

I attribute this to my Pisces MC and my SN, Moon, and Mars in the 12th. Basically Neptune lool. It sounds like my NN in the 6th is telling me I NEED to be focused on reality here and now, but it's just so hard to 'care' about it and want to be a part of the materialistic world. Perhaps with age it will become easier to integrate myself.

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posted September 11, 2014 05:26 PM            

So for example, chosing a method to accrue expenses for a business is as spiritual as discussing what happens after death, it's just that most people don't want to think about death or losing loved ones and that's entirely understandable.

But boring old math is as spiritual as watching a sunset, etc. etc...

Why judge...why say this is spiritual and this is not if you're going to be spiritual in the first place?

You should ask these questions because it might help you not hurt you.

Maybe gossiping is spiritual...maybe no one knows what is good and bad only what is up and down?

posted September 11, 2014 06:14 PM            

I think what she is saying is that people are too concerned with things that don't pertain to what is real. But people don't perceive reality the same way I do.. Its all a matter of having your third eye open or not.

If your higher chakras are open, you can see reality of the situation. But most of humanities upper chakras are closed and thats why they are focused on more practical things that feed human ego.

Whats sad is that there is a force actively trying to keep these higher chakras closed so humanity doesn't wise up.

posted September 11, 2014 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I feel that say. Sometimes I feel like a ghost, and I'm not even sure if I really exist. I just feel so ungrounded. Despite having quite a bit of earth in my chart. Might be my aqua sun and cancer moon.

It's not that I'd rather talk about spiritual things. I mean I would rather but I also don't really enjoy opening up. I just don't really have a good connection to the physical world. I can't ever get the feeling like I'm on earth or in my own skin. It's hard to explain. I drink a lot of caffeine to try to wake myself up but I never do. It's like I can't focus, I can't be present right now in this moment. Life feels like a dream.

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posted September 11, 2014 08:23 PM            

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Originally posted by AlexDern:
Oh and you say you'd rather talk about spiritual stuff, but spiritual stuff encompasses pretty much anything that occurs here on earth since the spirit is the ether upon which the earth is submerged, really according to any dogma, even the one of the unrestricted wandering guru - which is just a more elusive form of dogma than the status quo, especially Esther Hicks and her band of spirit ninjas. She is a dogma making machine.

So for example, chosing a method to accrue expenses for a business is as spiritual as discussing what happens after death, it's just that most people don't want to think about death or losing loved ones and that's entirely understandable.

But boring old math is as spiritual as watching a sunset, etc. etc...

Why judge...why say this is spiritual and this is not if you're going to be spiritual in the first place?

You should ask these questions because it might help you not hurt you.

Maybe gossiping is spiritual...maybe no one knows what is good and bad only what is up and down?

Maybe sitting still and watching a boring documentary on the interest rate is more good than feeding orphans? Who is to judge? Certainly not someone who is "spiritual".

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posted September 11, 2014 10:50 PM            

Many people is not capable to overcome their passions and then things like territorialism, masterialism, religious fanatism, etc appear.

Another people are THAT INSECURE that have the strong need to repeat and repeat how special they are.
Sadly, in most of cases they really aren't (or the perception about their main 'task' is that cloudy, that they keep falling into cyclic traps)

Sometimes I try to help.

Sometimes I walk away, because is very difficult to change a very damaged geometry, and I don't mean tropical charts.
But I'm not indifferent, even if I keep in silence.

posted September 12, 2014 03:25 AM            

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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
Does anyone else just feel like they just don't care about mundane things that seemingly everyone else is concerned about. E.g. When people talk to eachother about what happened on the latest tv programme, who got a new car, who had a baby, who lost weight ect, what celebrities look pretty. I really cannot be bothered, i feel like i want to fall asleep and I just tune out into my own world. When people talk about other people, i just zone out. Sometimes i just feel like i'm not on the planet, physically yes, but inside i don't feel as though i'm grounded. I think it's the transits, pluto square asc and neptune square MC and mercury. I put these feelings aswell down to my pisces lilith in the 5th, I do feel quite spacey and feels like i'm constantly dreaming rather than awake to the "real world"

I'd rather talk about spiritual stuff and i think life has more meaning than just conforming to what's popular in society kind of thing. This is indeed isolating.

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I've been in the same boat for a while now... We live (well depending partially on where you actually live of course) in a shallow and individualistic society, and it's not a matter of being "better" than anyone else but once you see that reality is so much bigger than that, it's hard to fit back in and care about the same mundane things. I'm cautious to explain that as spiritual tho because I think that word is often defined in limiting ways...

posted September 12, 2014 03:03 PM            

The worst thing is when religious fanatics appear.

But I have to mention the presence of FALSE new age followers too.

Both kind of people are always claiming to be closer to 'god'. Sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly.

And both are not even able to overcome the most basic form of a human ego.

How sad.

The need of power and recognition don't let them see straigth.

I find it laughable when that happens.
Because leaders and founders of church and also those who started the movement of a higher state of consciousness, both never tried to gain power or a mere recognition.
But yeah.
'Kiss the golden ring in my hand, because I'm closer to god'.
Or
'Repeat my name while meditating, I'll take you to a higher state'.

posted September 12, 2014 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
Forgive me, but I'm angry enough to rant a couple of things again.

The worst thing is when religious fanatics appear.

But I have to mention the presence of FALSE new age followers too.

Both kind of people are always claiming to be closer to 'god'. Sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly.

And both are not even able to overcome the most basic form of a human ego.

How sad.

The need of power and recognition don't let them see straigth.

I find it laughable when this happens.
Because leaders and founders of church and also those who started the movement of a higher state of consciousness, both never tried to gain power or a mere recognition.
But yeah.
'Kiss the golden ring in my hand, because I'm closer to god'.
Or
'Repeat my name while meditating, I'll take you to a higher state'.

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Most people are spiritual just by fulfilling their responsibilities and living their deal.

Spiritual teachers or "gurus" always say that if you get into a car accident it's your fault for driving the car, but the same logic extends to them - it's your fault for not protesting the car being driven if we're going to imply the implicit consistently.

posted September 12, 2014 03:54 PM            

In the west we seen a lot of people protesting the eating of meat, the use of earth's resources, etc.

But in truth, this is not spirituality. This is protesting.

Spirituality is not about what you eat. It's not about being diagnosed with an illness and attributing that to a prior life's action.

Spirituality means doing what you're supposed to do and that only you know what you're supposed to do.

If a person engages in any framework imposed on them to determine their own spirituality, this is weakness, not spirituality.

The tiger when he slaughters his pray is being spiritual just as much as Gandhi when he stops an immoral act.

Spiritual does not always = good
Sometimes spiritual is evil...there are evil spirits after all.

posted September 12, 2014 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Adding to the above tangent, I've often found various pop culture snobs (in regards to their favorite anime, scifi shows, sports teams, entertainers, fashion sense, love of certain cars, and so on) to be annoying and sometimes intolerable, but it reaches a special level of absurdity when it's a spiritual snob talking about how others need to let go of their own ego as the spiritual snob has claimed to have done...and learn at the spiritual snob's feet who is so much better than them (and I find them surprisingly common).

IMPORTANT: I'm NOT directing this at you, Neptunian Sag! I'm speaking more generally and following the path that this thread has been taking. Having specific interests doesn't make one a snob, it's when they lord it over everyone else saying their interests make them superior (be it in mind, refined tastes, spirit, etc) that does it.

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Exactly. No one can blame the dude who has to work every day in manual labor not wanting to discuss spirituality. For him, his bones ache, he is living for the next laugh, the next moment. He doesn't want to be philosophical not because he doesn't value it but because to do so would impair his ability to survive.

posted September 13, 2014 03:35 AM            

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Originally posted by AlexDern:
You know...that is actually what zen is about.

In the west we seen a lot of people protesting the eating of meat, the use of earth's resources, etc.

But in truth, this is not spirituality. This is protesting.

Spirituality is not about what you eat. It's not about being diagnosed with an illness and attributing that to a prior life's action.

Spirituality means doing what you're supposed to do and that only you know what you're supposed to do.

If a person engages in any framework imposed on them to determine their own spirituality, this is weakness, not spirituality.

Hence if a person wants to talk about spirituality and another person doesn't the person who doesn't may actually be more spiritual than the former. Who's to judge.

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Wait so what are you doing right now then?

And btw I was mostly kidding about my Russel Brand and yoga comment... Maybe those crazy "protesters" aren't the only ones with a stick up their a** after all