posted September 14, 2014 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by next to Neptune:
What in the natal chart could indicate that a person has an okay/easy time with earning money, or that the person at least won't be poor or lose all their money?

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Money is an earth sign domain.

So Taurus/Virgo/Capricorn are all about the tangibles i.e Money.

The way we earn money is through the use of our own talents and personal resources (Sun,Moon,Venus,Mars,Saturn,Jupiter,) with the job/career.

1.A person has an okay/easy time with earning money? Taurus on the 2nd,6th,10th house cusp.

And if the Sun,Venus,Jupiter is there,they may be having a very good time while doing it.Lucky devils!!

But I must also add that if there are squares/oppositions to the planets above,they may not be having such a good time.

My Sister has Sun in Taurus conjunct the MC. She is supposed to be having a good time in her career,but she is not.

The opposition of Pluto in Scorpio to her Sun, makes the climb up the ladder fraught(opposition)with much battles and power struggles (Scorpio)with people in charge(Pluto)

2.The person at least won't be poor or lose all their money?

2nd/6th/10th house cusp in Cap,Virgo,Scorpio and Cancer. Especially when the Moon,Mars or Mercury is on the cusps mentioned.

posted September 14, 2014 03:23 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
So, what about Leo in 2nd house and Aquarius in 8th house? Good or bad for money-making?:P

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What are the 2nd/6th/10th house cusps and are there any planets on them?

When we want to have a good time making money,we want to use our natural resources and for it to feel "effortless".

So when the Sun/Venus/Jupiter is found there on the 2nd/6th/10th house,we are having a good time and using a lot of our creativity in making money.

Taurus there sometimes makes things feel so easy. When planets are present.

But we must be mindful of oppositions and squares to these planets too. They may complicate things a lot i.e

For example,Capricorn in 2nd suggests that we find that status(Capricorn)is a part of our self-esteem(2nd).

It is unlikely to be a meteoric rise as Saturn ruled Capricorn suggests hardships and some setbacks. But we definitely feel the path was worth it.

When the Sun is in Capricorn 2nd house cusp,we make use of our personality(Sun) a great deal in earning our money(2nd).And this is likely to make us feel good.

But if our Sun enjoys an opposition to Saturn in Cancer.Things can get complicated.

2nd house cusp in Cap means that the 8th house cusp is Cancer.

So here on the 8th house cusp,we may want to experience intimacy(8th)that is supportive, loving,kind and nurturing (Cancer).

But with Saturn in Cancer in 8th,the person to show these "soft" qualities is difficult to find(Saturn).

And if we do have a partner,they are likely to show the Saturn in Cancer qualities by being very nit-picking,very demanding of our attention,critical of our inability to emotionally "connect" with them or even deny us sentimental love or attachment etc.

So no matter how many accolades(Cap) we enjoy(Sun)receiving that boosts our self esteem(2nd). We are heavily undermined (opposition)by not being able(Saturn)to achieve emotional(Cancer)intimacy(8th)with the partner concerned.

So the accolades earned end up meaning very little to us OR we end up trying to climb higher and higher so that the boost of our self esteem is not watered down by our incompetence in personal relationships(8th)

posted September 14, 2014 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
What are the 2nd/6th/10th house cusps and are there any planets on them?

When we want to have a good time making money,we want to use our natural resources and for it to feel "effortless".

So when the Sun/Venus/Jupiter is found there on the 2nd/6th/10th house,we are having a good time and using a lot of our creativity in making money.

Taurus there sometimes makes things feel so easy. When planets are present.

But we must be mindful of oppositions and squares to these planets too. They may complicate things a lot i.e

For example,Capricorn in 2nd suggests that we find that status(Capricorn)is a part of our self-esteem(2nd).

It is unlikely to be a meteoric rise as Saturn ruled Capricorn suggests hardships and some setbacks. But we definitely feel the path was worth it.

When the Sun is in Capricorn 2nd house cusp,we make use of our personality(Sun) a great deal in earning our money(2nd).And this is likely to make us feel good.

But if our Sun enjoys an opposition to Saturn in Cancer.Things can get complicated.

2nd house cusp in Cap means that the 8th house cusp is Cancer.

So here on the 8th house cusp,we may want to experience intimacy(8th)that is supportive, loving,kind and nurturing (Cancer).

But with Saturn in Cancer in 8th,the person to show these "soft" qualities is difficult to find(Saturn).

And if we do have a partner,they are likely to show the Saturn in Cancer qualities by being very nit-picking,very demanding of our attention,critical of our inability to emotionally "connect" with them or even deny us sentimental love or attachment etc.

So no matter how many accolades(Cap) we enjoy(Sun)receiving that boosts our self esteem(2nd). We are heavily undermined (opposition)by not being able(Saturn)to achieve emotional(Cancer)intimacy(8th)with the partner concerned.

So the accolades earned end up meaning very little to us OR we end up trying to climb higher and higher so that the boost of our self esteem is not watered down by our incompetence in personal relationships(8th)

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THIS!!!! I agree with both statements, and especially your previous comment about Venus or Jupiter in/on 2nd/8th house cusp being "easy come, easy go".

posted September 14, 2014 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:

THIS!!!! I agree with both statements, and especially your previous comment about Venus or Jupiter in/on 2nd/8th house cusp being "easy come, easy go".

My 2nd house is in Libra, Venus is also my 8th/9th house ruler in Taurus as well as planet Venus sitting on my 8th/9th cusp, Sun conjunct MC in Gemini on 9th/10th cusp, and Jupiter in 10th house in Cancer at 10th/11th house cusp. With this, money falls in my lap all the time, but I turn into the human touch when I get it. I have had to sign winnings over to my mother so I would learn control over the years. The ironic part about that is, I have 2 earth grand trine with planets, so you would think I would've learned practicality and discipline, but I get distracted by money for some reason.

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Sun conjunct MC suggest that you make full use of your personality(Sun) in the career.

Since the career involves a certain level of flexibility,quick-thinking and communication - your Sun in Gemini position fits quite well. I wonder if you enjoy any squares or oppositions to your Sun?

Lets look at your 2nd house cusp which is how you earn money? Any planets there?

But Libra there anyways suggests that making money is usually very enjoyable and enjoys a certain level of creativity(Venus rules Libra).

Do you have Saturn aspecting Venus? This will definitely curb the need to spend all willy nilly a great deal.

But Jupiter/Mars/Uranus/Neptune aspecting the 2nd house ruler(Venus) will make you spend that much more. And at the drop of a hat.

I myself have always been a very careful spender. Ruler of my 2nd house(Venus) conjunct Saturn natally.

And during this Saturn return, I've had to tighten the belt that much more.

But here is the interesting thing. Circumstances beyond my control made it necessary for me to now spend money.

1. The geyser broke and had to be replaced. When the money to spend on the geyser was needed, i had no choice. But I felt it was a necessary thing to spend on.

At the time,Jupiter in Cancer was conjunct my Moon(ruler of 4th)and trine Venus(ruler of 2nd). So I felt confident(trine) in spending(2nd)on things related to the home front(4th).

2. My sister got sick(out of nowhere)and at the time Mars in Scorpio was conjunct natal Venus(ruler of the 2nd).So I had to fork out cash for that.

Transiting Jupiter is in Leo and is squaring my Saturn(ruler of 10th)Venus(ruler of 2nd) right now.I do hope it brings cash in rather than out-in the form of a high paying job *holds breath*

Because with transiting Saturn still sitting on my Venus(2nd house ruler),there is no way that any possible inflow will be spent superfluously.

posted September 14, 2014 11:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Sun conjunct MC suggest that you make full use of your personality(Sun) in the career.

Since the career involves a certain level of flexibility,quick-thinking and communication - your Sun in Gemini position fits quite well. I wonder if you enjoy any squares or oppositions to your Sun?

Lets look at your 2nd house cusp which is how you earn money? Any planets there?

But Libra there anyways suggests that making money is usually very enjoyable and enjoys a certain level of creativity(Venus rules Libra).

Do you have Saturn aspecting Venus? This will definitely curb the need to spend all willy nilly a great deal.

But Jupiter/Mars/Uranus/Neptune aspecting the 2nd house ruler(Venus) will make you spend that much more. And at the drop of a hat.

I myself have always been a very careful spender. Ruler of my 2nd house(Venus) conjunct Saturn natally.

And during this Saturn return, I've had to tighten the belt that much more.

But here is the interesting thing. Circumstances beyond my control made it necessary for me to now spend money.

1. The geyser broke and had to be replaced. When the money to spend on the geyser was needed, i had no choice. But I felt it was a necessary thing to spend on.

At the time,Jupiter in Cancer was conjunct my Moon(ruler of 4th)and trine Venus(ruler of 2nd). So I felt confident(trine) in spending(2nd)on things related to the home front(4th).

2. My sister got sick(out of nowhere)and at the time Mars in Scorpio was conjunct natal Venus(ruler of the 2nd).So I had to fork out cash for that.

Transiting Jupiter is in Leo and is squaring my Saturn(ruler of 10th)Venus(ruler of 2nd) right now.I do hope it brings cash in rather than out-in the form of a high paying job *holds breath*

Because with transiting Saturn still sitting on my Venus(2nd house ruler),there is no way that any possible inflow will be spent superfluously.

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You are very wise Aries23. I never thought to look at the aspect between the 2nd house ruler, and Saturn to determine financial responsibility; it definitely makes sense though. I tested that theory and your experiences, and I have Venus quintile Jupiter, square Saturn, semi sextile Mars, Sub novile Venus, and in a GT with Uranus/Neptune so yeah....lol it certainly rings true for me. I guess I feel like why not spend it all, but sometimes I get carried away.

I wish I had Saturn conjunct Venus though because it seems like the best of both worlds. A benefic, and the ability to utilize its power responsibly.

posted September 15, 2014 01:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
What are the 2nd/6th/10th house cusps and are there any planets on them?

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2nd house in leo (cusp is cancer) and no planets in 2nd house
6th house in Sag (cusp in scorpio) Capricorn uranus, neptune and saturn sits in my 6th house conjunct each other
10th house in pisces (cusp in aquarius) Pisces moon in 10th house

Ruler of 2nd house is Sun and I have virgo sun opposite moon, conjunction mars
Ruler of 6th is Jupiter and I have jupiter trine venus, opposite saturn, neptune and uranus, trine pluto and MC
Ruler of 10th is Neptune and my capricorn neptune is conjunct saturn and uranus, sextile venus/pluto, opposite jupiter and square mercury

posted September 15, 2014 02:18 AM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:
Does the sun sign negate this theory. Like if your 2nd house is Venus and you have had aspects between Venus and Saturn/Uranus/Neptune, but you're a Capricorn Sun.

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I would also like to now the answer for that question.

I am Cap Sun, Moon in Aries, Asc in Scorpio.

Obviously Venus is indicator of money, so I would really like to know her role in my chart...

My Venus is in 2nd House. I have 7th House in Taurus with Jupiter in it.

In my 2nh House I have Uranus/Neptune/Uranus all conjunct my Venus in Capricorn.

Jupiter in 7th is bQ to my Venus.

North Node in 5th sextiles my Venus.

(My chart in case needed http://s3.postimg.org/jbpte262r/chart.jpg )

posted September 15, 2014 04:48 AM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:
You are very wise Aries23. I never thought to look at the aspect between the 2nd house ruler, and Saturn to determine financial responsibility; it definitely makes sense though. I tested that theory and your experiences, and I have Venus quintile Jupiter, square Saturn, semi sextile Mars, Sub novile Venus, and in a GT with Uranus/Neptune so yeah....lol it certainly rings true for me. I guess I feel like why not spend it all, but sometimes I get carried away.

I wish I had Saturn conjunct Venus though because it seems like the best of both worlds. A benefic, and the ability to utilize its power responsibly.

Good luck with the transits right now. I'm still learning, but maybe you'll have to fork over money for a new suit for the better paying job.

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posted September 15, 2014 05:06 AM            

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Originally posted by next to Neptune:
2nd house in Leo (cusp is cancer) and no planets in 2nd house
6th house in Sag (cusp in Scorpio) Capricorn Uranus, Neptune and Saturn sits in my 6th house conjunct each other
10th house in Pisces (cusp in Aquarius) Pisces moon in 10th house

Ruler of 2nd house is Sun and I have Virgo sun opposite moon, conjunction mars
Ruler of 6th is Jupiter and I have Jupiter trine Venus, opposite Saturn, Neptune and Uranus, trine Pluto and MC
Ruler of 10th is Neptune and my Capricorn Neptune is conjunct Saturn and Uranus, sextile Venus/Pluto, opposite Jupiter and square mercury

But I do have Venus in 5th house also and ruler of 4th house (sun) in 4th house, and I heard that this is good for creativity projects, working from home and investment in the house?;D

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I prefer to use the whole sign system .And check with both positions to see which is more accurate.

These "half" cusp energies seem to try to merge two energies that I have found very contradictory and confusing to decipher.

From what you've written, I'll investigate.I contrast and compare both.Do you have a Gemini Asc/Cancer Asc?

2nd house cusp Leo(cusp in Cancer)????

Let's say that you have Gemini in the 1st house, then 2nd house cusp is Cancer.

So the ruler of the 2nd house cusp is the Moon. Aspects to Mercury/Venus/Mars/Jupiter/Uranus and Neptune can have you spending.

If you have Cancer on the 1st house cusp, then the 2nd house cusp is Leo.

So the ruler of the 2nd house cusp is the Sun. The opposition to the Moon (as mentioned)could make you a very conservative spender,but Mars conjunct puts a spanner in the works.

You end up spending even when you don't mean to and end up asking yourself"why did I do that?" etc.

6th house cusp in Scorpio Ruler is Mars /Pluto.You have to find which of the two apply to your chart.

I would look at Mars natally and both Mars/Pluto when looking at transits.

If Mars(ruler of 6th)aspects Jupiter, you may enjoy your work and see it as helping you "expand".

If Mars aspects Saturn,the work may be manual,hard and arduous.It may require a great deal of patience and tenacity. Not likely enjoyable but necessary etc.

posted September 15, 2014 05:12 AM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:
Does the sun sign negate this theory. Like if your 2nd house is Venus and you have had aspects between Venus and Saturn/Uranus/Neptune, but you're a Capricorn Sun.

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I am not sure that I am understanding the question.

If you have Venus as the ruler of the 2nd house cusp(which is what I assume you are saying), having aspects to Saturn/Uranus/Neptune suggests that your spending habits are sporadic(Uranus) and difficult to track(Neptune).

But the Saturn aspect to Venus insist that you get a "hold" of the situation and learn to discipline yourself(despite these impulses to spend). Because if you don't, money will run out again and again.

posted September 15, 2014 05:31 AM            

Firstly, i have to ask you if you consider yourself a conservative spender?

What I see in your chart is a packed 2nd house; suggesting that having money,spending money,earning money and being able to access it whenever and wherever you can -is very important.

But the things is, all the planets in the 2nd house have to answer to the ruler of the 2nd house.

And since the 2nd house cusp is in Sagittarius.I look at Jupiter in Taurus as the planet to look out for when it comes to money(in your case).

Jupiter has minor aspects to Uranus and Neptune. And this is the perfect way to prove if the "minor" aspects have any substance.

If we disregard the minor aspects and look only at Jupiter in Taurus: You are more likely to spend on things that are Venus-related; perfume,make-up,beautiful paintings,a new car,nice fitting clothes, rich/decadent food etc.

But even so,Taurus is a conservative spender and looks out for quality rather than quantity.There is an added emphasis here to buy things that "last" rather than passing fads.

But if we are to look at Uranus and Neptune aspecting Jupiter,then your way with handling money is both unpredictable(Uranus) and hard to track(Neptune).

You may spend your money on a brand new sophisticated chair that you just had to have(Uranus in Cap).

That is good and well because every house needs a chair that is durable and lasts,but it could be that you end up not having money for groceries.

Or you may end up buying a new and expensive painting(Neptune in Capricorn)that is a worthwhile investment,but you don't have money for gas to your car.

There is something about buying stuff sporadically that makes the timing off. The things are necessary(since both are in earth).But not needed right now.That I think is the effect of the minor aspects.

In as far as Venus is concerned,Venus is the ruler of the 7th and 12th house.

The conjunction of Saturn to Venus suggests that you make very loyal(Saturn) partnerships(7th) and may restrict(Saturn) access to your private life(12th).

The added conjunction of Neptune and Uranus to Venus suggest that even though what is said above is the intention. What often happens is that there are times when you get taken in by an exciting new partner(Uranus conjunct 7th house Venus) or may fall in love with a mesmerizing artist(Neptune conjunct Venus)

But when all is said and done and you get back to your senses,the Venus conjunction to Saturn still rules.

You want to ground(Saturn-Venus) the partnership (7th)and often suffer disappointments when reality hits and you find out that all that excitement(Uranus) and romance(Neptune)was hot air.

This applies to the 12th house issues also.

Using this same perspective to analyze the 3rd house-which is ruled by Saturn.

The conjunction of Uranus and Neptune to the 3rd house suggests that you have a unique way of expressing yourself(Uranus) and imaginative(Neptune).

But you are not a person who is verbose-because both planets are in Capricorn. So you say only that which is necessary(Saturn rules Capricorn).

posted September 15, 2014 05:42 AM            

2nd in Libra
Sun conjunct Venus and Mercury in Libra, which all trine Mars from 10th