posted September 14, 2014 02:41 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
By itself, can it denote emotional distance or numbness? Lacking empathy for individuals or women? What if it's also trine Saturn and Uranus and opposite Pluto?

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Hi Hanna,

I have my moon (VOC) in the 11th as well, it's also my Asc ruler. I can relate to what you wrote, I have Chiron and the S. Node conjunct also.

posted September 14, 2014 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
By itself, can it denote emotional distance? Lacking empathy for individuals?

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Yes and yes. But the "lacking empathy" part can manifest in a more "not my problem" thing, opposed to not actually feeling it, as they can still feel it if they have other factors in their chart to denote it.

I actually have this placement, so I can speak from experience.

posted September 14, 2014 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by carm76:

I have my moon (VOC) in the 11th as well,

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posted September 14, 2014 03:43 PM            

I asked because I find people tell me their problems expecting sympathy - more specifically my Scorpio Sun Cap moon friend - and yet I feel none or just annoyance like "Okay, what do you want ME to do about it?" I can't feel anything for an event that already happened and can't be undone (double that if it was foreseeable or of their own doing) and sometimes it makes me feel like I'm a bad friend.

posted September 14, 2014 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
What is "VOC"?

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posted September 14, 2014 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by carm76:
Void of Course

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What is a Void of Course Moon, and can other planets be VOC?

posted September 14, 2014 05:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
What is a Void of Course Moon, and can other planets be VOC?

Also, how can you tell if a Moon is VOC?

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This is the best website I have found (for me) as far as definition goes ... http://www.drstandley.com/Void_of_Course_Moon_Calendar_2014.shtml

posted September 14, 2014 05:36 PM            

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Originally posted by carm76:
This is the best website I have found (for me) as far as definition goes ... http://www.drstandley.com/Void_of_Course_Moon_Calendar_2014.shtml

calculator ... http://www.lunarium.co.uk/calendar/universal.jsp

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Thanks for the links

posted September 14, 2014 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Hi Carm and MI, thanks for replying!

I asked because I find people tell me their problems expecting sympathy - more specifically my Scorpio Sun Cap moon friend - and yet I feel none or just annoyance like "Okay, what do you want ME to do about it?" I can't feel anything for an event that already happened and can't be undone (double that if it was foreseeable or of their own doing) and sometimes it makes me feel like I'm a bad friend.

I figured it may have to do with this placement since it's a) a fixed moon and b) in a fixed house, naturally ruled by Aquarius but in this case, technically ruled by Aries (but moon is in Taurus.) I guess one could say the Moon in the 11th house is emotional rebelliousness in a way.

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Very interest Hanna,

The more I read and learn the more "dual" my chart becomes. The moon is my Asc ruler and my moon is voc and half Fixed/Fire (29.54 Aries) conjunct important things to me anyway (a stellium, imo). I'm a Sag with the sun a sag stellium, ruled by Jupiter which is retrograde in my 11th House of Taurus. Some days I don't now if I'm coming or going. I feel emotionally confused, during the day, I'm one way and then a night another.

posted September 14, 2014 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Thanks for the links

So on the day I was born, it shows the symbol for the "Void of Course End", so that means my Moon isn't a VOC, right?

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If the < shows up before your time of birth then yes the VOC has ended and is "on course"

posted September 14, 2014 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by carm76:
Very interest Hanna,

The more I read and learn the more "dual" my chart becomes. The moon is my Asc ruler and my moon is voc and half Fixed/Fire (29.54 Aries) conjunct important things to me anyway (a stellium, imo). I'm a Sag with the sun a sag stellium, ruled by Jupiter which is retrograde in my 11th House of Taurus. Some days I don't now if I'm coming or going. I feel emotionally confused, during the day, I'm one way and then a night another.

You are a good friend, it's hard watching friends make the same mistakes over and over. By listening and being there, you are a best friend I wish your Scorpio Sun Cap moon friend all the best.

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posted September 14, 2014 06:23 PM            

I've turned to developing my spiritual side, I'm only a piece of my soul and I was created this way to experience this theme.

posted September 14, 2014 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by carm76:
If the < shows up before your time of birth then yes the VOC has ended and is "on course"

Only the moon can be VOC

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Well it says < on my day of birth, but how can I tell when it ended exactly in terms of time?

posted September 14, 2014 07:13 PM            

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Originally posted by carm76:
let me check, what's your DOB data?

according to Dr. Standley ...
start of the void is at 27 degrees 00 minutes up until 02 degrees 59 minutes 59 seconds of the next sign.

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9/17/1995, 3:55 AM

posted September 14, 2014 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by carm76:
sorry, I forgot to ask where?

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posted September 14, 2014 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by carm76:
yes, you were born during the void. The void started on Sept. 16th @ 5:09pm and ended 6:15am on the 17th when it entered Cancer.

You probably have conjuncts, oppositions, squares etc ... to your moon, some astrologers say you can't have those during a VOC. That's why I posted the link above, I have a void moon and connections to other planets so it is possible like Dr. Standley says.

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Oh, okay. Thanks for the help

posted September 14, 2014 08:50 PM            

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Originally posted by carm76:
Hanna,

Where you born during a VOC moon?

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posted September 14, 2014 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I don't think so, I don't have a < anywhere in my chart. Pluto was in retrograde though if that counts for anything, lol!

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no the < symbol is found in the lunar calculator (see above links). It symbolizes the start of the void.

posted September 14, 2014 09:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Oh, okay. Thanks for the help

Yes, I do have aspects with my Moon and other planets. A lot of aspects actually. How can we not have those aspects just because the Moon was VOC during that time? That doesn't even make sense, right? Do those astrologers mean that the aspects don't have any affect or something?

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